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How do you pronounce R?

  • 08-12-2004 07:12PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,488 ✭✭✭


    Is it pronounced "or" or "are". I've always pronounced it "or" but everyone here has trouble when I spell things out with an r. Is it an Irish thing or just me.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,093 ✭✭✭woosaysdan


    are???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,488 ✭✭✭SantaHoe


    "or" as in "dorsh" roish?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,592 ✭✭✭Ro: maaan!


    I always used to get slagged for saying "or". Too American my arse! I stuck to my guns though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    I say "or" (grew up in Cork), never heard anyone say "are".

    Must be a lot of people where you live who think they're pirates.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,842 ✭✭✭steveland?


    I'd say Or...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,880 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    OR but ppl seem to have difficulty when u pronounce it that way.

    My pet hate working in a call centre is the is the way Irish ppl pronounce "a" and ah and not ay (as in hay without the h)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭Boberto


    I used to pronounce it 'or' but the british customers didn't understand so then it became 'arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre'


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Oriel


    "are"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    I pronounce it with lots of clicking sounds.

    Or, when I want to pretend to be a pirate, like "Arrrrr!"


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 95,134 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Blisterman wrote:
    Is it pronounced "or" or "are". I've always pronounced it "or" but everyone here has trouble when I spell things out with an r. Is it an Irish thing or just me.

    In London they mistake "or" and "are", bit like they way they get words starting with "s" and "f" mixed up. I'd say you should do it with round lips and not sounding like a pirate (except on that special day)

    international phonetic langague - each of these characters have a standard sound
    http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/wells/ipa-unicode.htm
    sure someone will be along in a minute to tell us which one is used for the letter "R"


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 CJ_Will


    I tend to say "are"... But I also have always liked pirates. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,488 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    Ro: maaan! wrote:
    I always used to get slagged for saying "or". Too American my arse! I stuck to my guns though.
    Well the american person I asked prononced it somewhere between or and are, which I can't pronounce.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,999 ✭✭✭solas


    the only time I have heard anyone say "are" is on the are tee ee voice over.

    "good evening, you are watching are tee ee one."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭gnu


    I say "or"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 441 ✭✭dewsbury


    "or" is an Irish thing. I switched to "are" after living in London a while - now back in Dublin and use both "or" and "are".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    "or" here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    dewsbury wrote:
    "or" is an Irish thing. I switched to "are" after living in London a while - now back in Dublin and use both "or" and "are".

    I can see how Englanders would pronounce "r" like "are" because they don't pronounce the "r" in the word "are" but Irish people saying "r" the way Irish people say "are" (rhymes with yarr) sounds crazy. Anybody who pronounces it like that care to record yourself and post it here?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Oriel


    Is that "or" as in "ore"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 345 ✭✭dannyd20


    are but not overstated (piratey) 'or' is boggerish like a (ah/ay) as CL said

    My pet hate working in a call centre is the is the way Irish ppl pronounce "a" and ah and not ay (as in hay without the h)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,665 ✭✭✭bennyx_o


    "or". Can't say I've heard anyone pronounce it "are".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,488 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    As in rymes with bore


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,592 ✭✭✭Ro: maaan!


    Wouldn't the English say "aw"?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Oriel


    It all comes down to accent I guess. I'm from the north and say "are". I find the idea of me pronoucing it "or" just plain stupid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    Sinecure wrote:
    Is that "or" as in "ore"?

    No "or" as in tea or coffee.

    "are" for "r" sounds boggerific to me.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Oriel


    If they're from London, yeah.
    Ro: maaan! wrote:
    Wouldn't the English say "aw"?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Oriel


    Exactly, imagine a cockney perfectly pronoucing "or"...

    simu wrote:
    No "or" as in tea or coffee.

    "are" for "r" sounds boggerific to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    Sinecure wrote:
    Exactly, imagine a cockney perfectly pronoucing "or"...

    Well, I was talking about Irish people there. I know little about cockney speech tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭Sev


    'R'.. not so much, my problem has always been with the letter 'H'

    'Aytch' or 'Haytch'?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 95,134 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Sev wrote:
    'R'.. not so much, my problem has always been with the letter 'H'
    'Aytch' or 'Haytch'?
    English people have awful problems with F H R S
    It's reckoned that hiberno-english is closer to what Shakespere spoke and wrote then what is spoken across the pond.
    BTW: Scots pronounce G as guy - but it's totally unambigious so that's not a problem

    Again a handy Guide to English sounds.

    A as in BREAD
    B as in DEBT
    C as in INDICTMENT
    D as in HANDKERCHIEF
    E as in GIVE
    F as in HALFPENNY
    G as in GNAW
    H as in HOUR
    I as in FRIEND
    J as in MARIJUANA
    K as in KNOW
    L as in Walk
    M as the first M in MNEMONIC
    N as in AUTUMN
    O as in PEOPLE
    P as in PSALM
    Q as in Acquiai
    R as in the first R in February
    S as in ISLAND
    T as in CASTLE
    U as in GUARD
    V as in MILNGAVIE (a Scottish place name) *can anyone find a better one*
    W as in Wrap
    X as in SIOUX
    Y as in PEPYS
    Z as in RENDEZVOUS

    http://members.aol.com/Fanetiks And of course many Britons don't pronounce R at the end of a word or before a consonant.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭TCamen


    I used to pronounce it like 'ore' but now I use 'are'. However I don't sound like a pirate when I say it! I think it's more neutral/American 'ar' than pirate 'aare' :p

    ^^ Good list Capt'n Midnight :)


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