Latest greatest gfx card?

Dcully · 21-10-2004 05:36PM #1

In the past i knew exactly what was the best gfx card on the block all the ins and outs etc.
Then i just didnt bother keeping up to speed on them as they were/are arriving so fast.
Anyways what is the beast out there right now?
I currently have a 9800 pro.
Last time i looked it was the ATI X800 and nvidia equivalent.

Optikus · 21-10-2004 05:43PM

nVidia equivilent being the 6800 ultra.. the best you can get.

Ciaran500 · 21-10-2004 05:57PM

Currently its the ATI X800XT PE and Nvidia 6800Ultra that are the cutting edge of graphics cards.

There performance is pretty even across the board with one or the other pulling ahead in certain games.

neokenzo · 21-10-2004 06:18PM

Most places does not have the X800XT PE at the moment. Its out of stock almost everywhere.

grimloch · 21-10-2004 06:41PM

have you ever seen it in stock?

CivilServant · 21-10-2004 06:56PM

Dual 6800 Ultras would be the greatest atm. Scores around 9k in 3dmark05, and should let you play doom3 comfortably! You would need an nforce 4 SLI mobo, which will be out shortly. So that'd be €500 per card and €200 for the mobo.

You're looking at roughly €1200. Then you have the rest of the system to build. Oh almost forgot the beefy PSU you'd need to run dual 6800 Ultras. Let's see, 4 molex connectors...?! :eek:

Optikus · 21-10-2004 06:58PM

CivilServant wrote:

Dual 6800 Ultras would be the greatest atm. Scores around 9k in 3dmark05, and should let you play doom3 comfortably! You would need an nforce 4 SLI mobo, which will be out shortly. So that'd be €500 per card and €200 for the mobo.

You're looking at roughly €1200. Then you have the rest of the system to build. Oh almost forgot the beefy PSU you'd need to run dual 6800 Ultras. Let's see, 4 molex connectors...?! :eek:

Why on earth would you want to play doom3... seriously just get the demo and play it tens times would be the same as playing the whole game.

kaimera · 21-10-2004 06:59PM

I was under the impression the 6800GT was a better buy than the Ultra, coming close to the Ultra in benchmarks and then being better for o/cing.

grimloch · 21-10-2004 06:59PM

CivilServant wrote:

€200 for the mobo.

for an nforce 4? do you have a link or something to that?

id be guessing theyd be a little more

Optikus · 21-10-2004 07:02PM

Kaimera wrote:

I was under the impression the 6800GT was a better buy than the Ultra, coming close to the Ultra in benchmarks and then being better for o/cing.

It cheaper and you can flash the BIOS to that of a GT, thats why it is indeed a better buy.

CivilServant · 21-10-2004 07:08PM

grimloch wrote:

for an nforce 4? do you have a link or something to that?

id be guessing theyd be a little more

Google is your friend.

@Optikus - Chill dude, I wasn't endorsing the game. I'm also one of the non believers! Give me HL2 + Ati anyday.

Optikus · 21-10-2004 07:19PM

CivilServant wrote:

Google is your friend.

@Optikus - Chill dude, I wasn't endorsing the game. I'm also one of the non believers! Give me HL2 + Ati anyday.

Like music to my ears.

ViperVenoM · 21-10-2004 08:03PM

Optikus wrote:

Why on earth would you want to play doom3... seriously just get the demo and play it tens times would be the same as playing the whole game.

lol!

ohh so true!

tman · 21-10-2004 08:17PM

grimloch wrote:

for an nforce 4? do you have a link or something to that?

id be guessing theyd be a little more

http://nvidia.com/object/IO_16486.html

2 gigs of ram, an AMD FX-55 and 2 x800xt pes...
*fap*

Ave · 21-10-2004 08:21PM

Um ATI dont do SLI.

MrPinK · 21-10-2004 09:13PM

Ave wrote:

Um ATI dont do SLI.

That hasn't stopped Alienware from designing a dual ATI system. Their Video Array System can combine any two matching PCI-E cards.

tman · 21-10-2004 09:18PM

Ave wrote:

Um ATI dont do SLI.

heh. i'm such a dumbass :rolleyes:

Ave · 22-10-2004 05:12PM

MrPinK wrote:

That hasn't stopped Alienware from designing a dual ATI system. Their Video Array System can combine any two matching PCI-E cards.

And I'm sure it will perform admirably.

Not...

OfflerCrocGod · 22-10-2004 05:35PM

Ave wrote:

And I'm sure it will perform admirably.

I'm sure it will cost both testicles and your right arm.

ViperVenoM · 22-10-2004 07:49PM

out of curiosity

when and what are the next cards?

im not scrapping my 9800xt just yet, but when are we gonna see the next cards beating the old ultras and xt pes?

BloodBath · 23-10-2004 05:14AM

The x800xt pe is still king of the hill margainly over the 6800 ultra.

If you want to get a cheap x800xt with video in and video out buy yourself a HIS x800pro vivo on Jes for 460e. They all flash to x800xt's and with the good cooling they usually have no trouble of reaching xt or xt pe speeds.

BloodBath

astrofool · 23-10-2004 10:59AM

Well the PE is basically banking on HL2 being its game, right now the 6800 series is a far more attractive purchase than an x800.

Doom 3 runs excellent on most current gen cards. There aren't actually that many 6800 pci-e cards in the channel atm. I'm guessing that their next refresh will be native PCI-E (with an agp bridged version), have a few tweaks and a little more speed. It'll be interesting to see what ATI reply with beyond a clock speed increase, they really need a new architecture.

SLI will happen with the next gen stuff, not this gen really, bar maybe the 6600 series.

BloodBath · 23-10-2004 06:21PM

Well the PE is basically banking on HL2 being its game, right now the 6800 series is a far more attractive purchase than an x800.

Doom 3 runs excellent on most current gen cards. There aren't actually that many 6800 pci-e cards in the channel atm. I'm guessing that their next refresh will be native PCI-E (with an agp bridged version), have a few tweaks and a little more speed. It'll be interesting to see what ATI reply with beyond a clock speed increase, they really need a new architecture.

SLI will happen with the next gen stuff, not this gen really, bar maybe the 6600 series.

Eh the x800xt pe is better in most direct 3d games. Nvidia have them completely dominated with the mid and lower range cards but Ati still hold the crown for the top card. Take a look at the top 100 3dmark 2003 and 2005 scores. 80% of them are x800's. Now I know that's a synthetic benchmark but it's some way accurate to real world performance. Since most games are Direct 3d i'd sooner go with the X800 tbh.

BloodBath

astrofool · 23-10-2004 08:17PM

3dmark is a useless way of measuring a video card's performance. Only an idiot would buy a card based on it's 3dmark score. So much cheating and optimising goes on with it.

BloodBath · 23-10-2004 09:06PM

3dmark is a useless way of measuring a video card's performance. Only an idiot would buy a card based on it's 3dmark score. So much cheating and optimising goes on with it.

I'm not just basing it on 3dmark performance, I was using that as an example. Look at benchmarks for most Direct 3d games and the x800xt is usually ahead especially with high resolutions with AA and AF which is what your going to want after spending 500e on a graphics card.

BloodBath

jesus_thats_gre · 23-10-2004 09:56PM

Sorry Bloodbath but the X800XT is been consistently beaten by the Ultra in normal resolutions, i.e. anything up to 1280x1024. Granted, at 1600x1200 the X800 pips the 6800 but generally the 6800 is the better buy, i.e. how many people have a deent enough monitor to run at 1600x1200 at a decent refresh rate.. I know you have one but feck all people do.

At that, you would be insane to buy either the X800XT or 6800 Ultra now. The all new ATI GPU will be launched not long after Christmas and no doubt Nvidea will release a revised version of their current chip in order to compete.

Considering the X800 is just an evolved 9700 and the 6800 is a brand new chip supporting the like is PS3, I would go for the 6800. If only because I have an 18inch TFT and games will only run at 1280x1024.

ViperVenoM · 24-10-2004 01:02AM

jesus_thats_gre wrote:

The all new ATI GPU will be launched not long after Christmas and no doubt Nvidea will release a revised version of their current chip in order to compete.

now thats what i wanted to hear! i was wondering about the status of the next lot of cards..

jesus_thats_gre · 24-10-2004 03:34AM

The new GPU is also being used in the next Xbox and was supposedly signed off two months ago for manufacturing.. Cannot remember where I saw it..

http://www.msfn.org/comments.php?shownews=10000 is basically the gist but a less reputable source

The Xbox chipset is being named the R500 while the next Radeon (anyone XI800?) is named R520..

ViperVenoM · 24-10-2004 02:32PM

d'oh im sensing a christmas present here if i cant think of out else :rolleyes:

StRiKeR · 24-10-2004 06:04PM

just as well I hold off my post, heh heh, and so nice to see others think the same I do, doom3 is boring I agree, HL2 is really taking off tho, and nVidia is sitting above ATi when it comes to HL2 without a doubt.

both cards are indeed very fast and the different in performance is very little so far, but I would recommend nVidia due to the newer technology it has which ATi hasn't!

at the end of the day, all them benchmarks results isn't that much of an issue when you actually playing the game, tbh who's gonna be playin a game at over 100 fps? once it can play it smooth, its fine, and I have no problem running doom3 far cry at ultra quality!

when it comes to upgrade just remember one thing, if you are a big fan of nVidia or ATi, dont just stick with them because you have it or it was good and expect the newer cards from ATi or nVidia will be better for sure, check out what they have to offer, newer design of the whole engineering, what new technology they have added to the card, dont be just going by which card can run faster at benchmarks, thats not really that important!

and definately dont be recommending it or gonna get the same make of cards because you already have one of thier products!

I had ATi before but I switched to nVidia!

I know some people only recommend what they have and they dont recommend what they haven't got to others, simply it just sounds to me they dont want others have something better! I even heard people recommend others not to get something because they think its over kill! but they actually looking to buy one!

Irish Angel · 24-10-2004 06:53PM

StRiKeR wrote:

at the end of the day, all them benchmarks results isn't that much of an issue when you actually playing the game, tbh who's gonna be playin a game at over 100 fps? once it can play it smooth, its fine, and I have no problem running doom3 far cry at ultra quality!

when it comes to upgrade just remember one thing, if you are a big fan of nVidia or ATi, dont just stick with them because you have it or it was good and expect the newer cards from ATi or nVidia will be better for sure, check out what they have to offer, newer design of the whole engineering, what new technology they have added to the card, dont be just going by which card can run faster at benchmarks, thats not really that important!

have to agree on that, its so true!

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