MTV Top 22 Rappers Rundown-Opinions

Tha Gopher · 28-03-2004 11:03AM #1

This show was actually first on a few months ago,so,er,welcome to February:)
Anyway,if you watch MTV Base often you probably saw the programme where viewers voted,in order of preference,the top 22 rappers. The list went

22. Chuck D
21. Method Man
20. Queen Latifah
19. LL Cool J
18. Foxy Brown
17. Common
16. Snoop Dogg
15. KRS-ONE
14 Run-DMC
13 DMX
12 Nelly
11. Bug Pun
10. Missy Elliot
9. Beastie Boys
8. Lil Kim
7. Dr. Dre
6. Rakim
5. Jay-Z
4. Nas
3. Eminem
2. Biggie
1. Tupac

Just wondering,whats yer opinions? A good,reflective list? Or American nobheads voting for thebiggest record seller?
As for mein opinion,if ye care,which you may not......
22. Chuck D-I dunno,tbh I never liked public enemy much,thought they were overrated
21. Method Man-Aye,deserves to be in the list
20. Queen Latifah- Never paid much attention to her
19. LL Cool J -Same
18. Foxy Brown -Same
17. Common -Have none of his stuff
16. Snoop Dogg -He fell off harder than the world trade centre collapsing after doggystyle,but because of the sheer quality of that album,and the chronic,Id put him among my top 5 or so
15. KRS-ONE -Ive heard alot about him,but know little of his stuff tbh. Nowhere in Ireland sells his stuff it would seem,and Ive no credit card to be buying online,but Ill take peoples word for it
14 Run-DMC -Alright,I suppose,not huge on old skool really
13 DMX -Has some god lyrics and alot of energy
12 Nelly -His first album had a few good tracks. However,a series of brutal singles from his second have lowered my opinion of him
11. Big Pun -Ive got Yeaah Baby lying round lost somewhere in my room,never gave it a proper listen tbh
10. Missy Elliot -Geddoutofit. She has some brutal lyrics and these days she seems to be targeting the American house/dance music market more than rap
9. Beastie Boys -Tbh I never really regarded them as rappers. They always sort of annoyed me tbh
8. Lil Kim -Not arsed
7. Dr. Dre- Best producer ever,and not a bad rapper,even if he doesnt write all his own lyrics his producing talents compensate for it
6. Rakim -Same as KRS One,nobody in Ireland seems to sell his stuff. Ive liked the few album cuts I heard though
5. Jay-Z -FCUK OFF. Surely the man who gives rap a bad name to non fans. He is such a fecking stereotype rapper-all he seems to ramble about is selling crack,bitches and how much money,cars,boats and cristal he has round the house. Grade A buffoon. Despite popular opinion I class him as one of the weakest lyricists in the industry. Why the hell are the likes of new,southern rappers like Chingy getting so much bad reviews for rapping about the same things Jay Z has rapped about for years to critical acclaim. Anybody could come up with a typical Jay Z verse in two minutes. All you need mention are the words hove,hova,crack,hoe and projects. He shouldnt be on the list at all
4. Nas - Brilliant lyricist,and hasnt majorly fallen off like most who have been round as long as him
3. Eminem -Undeniably a deadly lyricist. Recent stuff not as good,but still,what a genius
2. Biggie -Best lyricist ever bar none . Beats Tupac hands down tbh
1. Tupac -He was good,but tbh when it comes to lyrical quality he wouldnt probably make my top 5. The only time he outshone Biggie was on Hit Em Up,which in fairness was a brilliant diss. Popular idiotic opinion wins out again against the best talent.

So,whats yer view?

Cannibal Ox · 28-03-2004 12:22PM

8. Lil Kim

That about sums it up for me.

Kold · 28-03-2004 11:00PM

Queen Latifah? Fs, not even worth commenting on tbh

Makaveli · 29-03-2004 12:57AM

22. Chuck D - Deserves place higher than 22.

21. Method Man - GZA tbh.

20. Queen Latifah - Female hip hop pioneer, merits place

19. LL Cool J - GOAT maybe not, but should be in the list.

18. Foxy Brown - Not a fan.

17. Common - A higher place deserved.

16. Snoop Dogg - Maybe at 22, purely for Doggystyle but he cant keep riding on the success of it and colaborations

15. KRS-ONE - Higher place.

14 Run-DMC - Hip Hop pioneers again. Earned their place.

13 DMX - No

12 Nelly - Hell no

11. Bug Pun - Not bad, but not a big fan of hispanic rappers bar Cypress Hill

10. Missy Elliot - Innovative, brought a good bit to the genre, shouldn't be ranked so high

9. Beastie Boys - Earned place.

8. Lil Kim - who? Terrible. Terrible. Terrible.

7. Dr. Dre - As a producer yes, as a rapper no.

6. Rakim - Earned place.

5. Jay-Z - No, well maybe 20 - 22 but 5? I think not.

4. Nas - Illmatic, fantastic album, Stillmatic and God's Son very good, forget the rest. Top 4 fair place.

3. Eminem - Turned the genre on it's head. Great lyricist. No. 3 - maybe after a few more solid albums.

2. Biggie - Lyrically great. Good delivery, put east coast hip hop back on the map.

1. Tupac - Good yes, # 1 no.

Biggie
Nas
KRS-One
Rakim
Eminem
A Tribe Called Quest
De La Soul
Common
Chuck D
Aesop Rock
Tupac
Guru
Gift of Gab
LL Cool J
Beasties
Run DMC
GZA
Queen Latifah
Snoop Dogg
Missy Elliot

Now I know I've left some out, and the order is a bit rough, but a better top 20(why 22?) imo.

][cEMAN** · 29-03-2004 09:38AM

There's a few people in there that shouldn't be. But i'd say the real list is made up higher up (10 upwards - but I would include beasties)

Most of the list though seems to be for the MTV viewers who just watch MTV1 or MTV Base. I think some of the well deserving artists in that list were probably going to be left out for more main stream (pop) rappers.

Cannibal Ox · 29-03-2004 11:12AM

MTV viewers who just watch MTV1 or MTV Base.

What did you expect with an MTV list?
Look at one of their Metal or Rock top 20's, it'll still be based on sales with maybe a splattering of well known, good, classic bands.
Basically, MTV Sucks.

I like Makaveli's list, I wouldn't agree on everything, but it seems like a solid list with artists that deserve their place on skill etc, rather then just on how many albums they sold.

Horsefumbler · 29-03-2004 12:00PM

Warren G?

projectmayhem · 30-03-2004 09:10AM

the fact that people are looking at an mtv list as credible is amazing. this is mtv remember, the music channel that plays pseudo-reality shows all day...

Klimseven · 30-03-2004 10:41AM

15. KRS-ONE
14 Run-DMC
13 DMX
12 Nelly

that's the funniest $hit I've read in a looong time, thanks for that

RasTa · 30-03-2004 10:54AM

Bullcrap list that is, heres mine

1) Biggie
2) Krs-one
3) Pharoe Monarch
4) Del the Funky Homosapien
5) Gift of the Gab
6) Gza
7) Nas
8) Q-tip(tribe called quest days)
9) Rakim
10) Slick Rick

Top 10 no need for fillers

Klimseven · 30-03-2004 11:11AM

^^^ thank you, at last someone giving credit to Del...innovates all over your mainstream ass, Mista Dobalina!

Makaveli · 30-03-2004 10:44PM

I find he has an incredibly annoying voice though.
It puts me off him. Not that what he writes isnt good, he's a good emcee, very good delivery and lyrical ability, but an annoying as fuck voice.

Kold · 31-03-2004 04:04PM

Basically, MTV can make or break rappers themselves.

Klimseven · 31-03-2004 06:34PM

^^^ only mainstream rappers whose main fans are 14 year old suburban MTV watching ghetto wannabee teeny boppers

MidnightQueen · 07-04-2004 08:38AM

Originally posted by Tha Gopher

2. Biggie -Best lyricist ever bar none . Beats Tupac hands down tbh
1. Tupac -He was good,but tbh when it comes to lyrical quality he wouldnt probably make my top 5. The only time he outshone Biggie was on Hit Em Up,which in fairness was a brilliant diss. Popular idiotic opinion wins out again against the best talent.

So,whats yer view?

This is my top five:

5. Dr. Dre
4. DMX
3. Missy Elliot
2. Snoop Dogg
1. Tupac

I think 2pac should definetly stay in first place in my view. I think he was the best rapper of all time to me. I LOVE 2PAC

Snoop should be second!
Missy Elliot i love her music and her songs!
Same for Dr Dre and DMX!

leonotron · 07-04-2004 08:50AM

Do you mean pharoe monch?

Originally posted by RasTa
Bullcrap list that is, heres mine

1) Biggie
2) Krs-one
3) Pharoe Monarch
4) Del the Funky Homosapien
5) Gift of the Gab
6) Gza
7) Nas
8) Q-tip(tribe called quest days)
9) Rakim
10) Slick Rick

Top 10 no need for fillers

Cannibal Ox · 07-04-2004 10:20AM

Pharoahe Monch?

hoo haa...
Guy has one of the best delivery in the world.
Anyone know if he's coming out with a new album anytime soon?

yougotilikethat · 02-01-2009 01:45PM

my alltime top 5
1notorious big
2eazy e
3eminem
4tupac
5dr.dre

missy elliots ****:rolleyes::eek:shes actually ****e who likes her!

snoop since doggstyle has gone down down down
but he has brought out a good few songs
like beautiful with pharrell
one of my favourite songs.

1.biggie, you gotta love him
2."sl"eazy e, you have to listen to this guy
3.eminem, his name is eminem:p
4.tupac, two of my favourite songs, ghetto gospel california love
5.dr.dre, brilliant producer fantastic rapper he was legend when he was with nwa, then **** with dre day and next episode

god is love

floggg · 02-01-2009 02:31PM

Top 5 Rappers, Dead or Alive...

1. Phonte (of Little Brother)
2. Pharaohe Monche
3. Jay-Z
4. Lupe Fiasco
5. Ras Kass (just for Nature of the Threat and Interview with a Vampire alone)

Makaveli · 02-01-2009 06:34PM

Please don't bump 5 year old threads.

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