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Ferdinand ban upheld

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,581 ✭✭✭uberwolf


    I think the point is though that the bans had to start increasing at some point, just happened to be Rio because of the profile of the man and club. The next player will probably get a larger ban again until soccer is inline with other sports.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭smiaras


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,007 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    Originally posted by PHB
    I don't mind the fact that its an 8 month sentance, I think it should be 2-3 years for missing or failing a drugs test.

    However that said, if its a 2 year sentance, I want to see every single player who does it get the two year sentance, and this just isn't happening.
    It was a token ban which worked out great for FIFA as MAn United are such a high profile sport.
    It worked out even better for them now that Man United have ****ed up their season due to his absence, hammering home more the point that drugs are bad.

    If they want to stomp out drugs in sports, kudos, but they should do it evenly and fairly across FIFA world

    Exactly, It will be very interesting to see what punishment is handed out the next time an Italian or Spanish player is found guily of drug taking. If its any less than 8 months it will make a mockery of drug testing in soccer , If my memory serves me right hasn,t a sentence for a positive test been reduced lately for some foreign player, I think someone (possible smiras) mentioned it here lately


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭smiaras


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,007 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    Originally posted by smiaras
    Kallon's was:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/africa/3476359.stm

    "Fifa president Sepp Blatter said his organisation intended to take another look at Kallon's ban after fellow Serie A player, Libyan Al Saadi Gaddafi, received a much shorter ban for the same offence"

    Seems he didn't take a look at theirs when he was mouthing off about Ferdinand :D

    Blatters reasoning in this case just hightlights his hypocracy. As has already been stated a Man City player was only fined £5000 for this offence so using the same reasoning Ferdinands ban should also have been reduced.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    Originally posted by donhughberto
    I am glad he will miss Euro 04, thats the only reason he started his ban in Jan to play in it and he is the one who has cost all us man u fans the season we are having.

    Think about it, who misses a drug's test, if it was me it would be top of mind for the entire training session and after it even if i wasn't on anything. I think he used time to get it out of his system and is guilty as hell.

    Before people start i am a Utd Fan but 8 months is too little when you consider athletes get 2 years for drug abuse but i also think other FA's have players who were def doing drugs and got sentences reduced to 5 months, that would't help Utd as he would only just be back for Euro 04, so fair play!
    Your a United fan? He had a choice, to start his ban in January or wait til the appeal was dealt with, he decided to start it in January when Fergie had a choice to buy another defender. If he only started it now he would be out til November.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 811 ✭✭✭donhughberto


    Originally posted by eirebhoy
    Your a United fan? He had a choice, to start his ban in January or wait til the appeal was dealt with, he decided to start it in January when Fergie had a choice to buy another defender. If he only started it now he would be out til November.


    I don't think he gives a f**k about utd just his england euro 2004 campaign so i am glad he has to miss England as well as utd, some punishment for FA as well as Utd as they wo't win it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,051 ✭✭✭Big Ears


    Originally posted by The Muppet
    Blatters reasoning in this case just hightlights his hypocracy. As has already been stated a Man City player was only fined £5000 for this offence so using the same reasoning Ferdinands ban should also have been reduced.

    muppet since u didnt take my advise on reading why the man city player got a £5000 fine il have to post a link for u

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=131444&perpage=20&pagenumber=3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭mr_angry


    I agree with Ferdinand's banning for 8 months. I also agree that its very unfair compared to other bans handed out though. I would rather see these bans increased, rather than Rio's ban decreased.

    Regarding the appeal though - what new evidence was brought to light in between this and the original hearing? None, as far as I can see. What result did they expect?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,298 ✭✭✭laoisfan


    my understanding is that Rio was banned for "missing" the test NOT for taking banned substances!!

    now, from what i read in all the newspapers (i have not read them all but you know what i mean) Rio and his legal-eagles appealed the lenght of the ban on the basis that he had proof that he had never taken drugs i.e. hair samples

    maybe i am missing something here but does not sound a wee bit stupid?

    how could they hope to get tha ban reduced? he was never accussed of taking banned substances......mearly being stupid and an idiot for missing a drugs test.

    --laoisfan


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭smiaras


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 811 ✭✭✭Ronaldo7


    I think that is really harsh on Ferdinand. However, it is setting an example. But if this happens to any other footballer in the future and we know it will. They better get the same ****ing treatment or else that is just pure gayness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,007 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    Originally posted by Big Ears
    muppet since u didnt take my advise on reading why the man city player got a £5000 fine il have to post a link for u

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=131444&perpage=20&pagenumber=3

    The Man City player got fined for missing the drug test Ferdinand got 8 months for the exact same offence, no laws were changed between both offences . Mr Blattter decided to have a crackdown as soon as he heard of the ferdinand case put appears to have no problems with other sentences being reduced. As smirias says if a player in Italy got his Ban reduced because of precedent in another case why does the same not apply to the premiership.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,581 ✭✭✭uberwolf


    there may be more on this elsewhere but this is from todays Independent click me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    After last nights interview i think its clear that rio is either very very very very very (and i mean sub-normal) Stupid or guilty as sin.



    I agree with PHB that drug bans (both for failing and missing tests) should be long AND consistant. Ive been sayign for ages there is a drug problem in the FA and they really need to sort it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,734 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    Originally posted by mr_angry
    I agree with Ferdinand's banning for 8 months. I also agree that its very unfair compared to other bans handed out though. I would rather see these bans increased, rather than Rio's ban decreased.

    Regarding the appeal though - what new evidence was brought to light in between this and the original hearing? None, as far as I can see. What result did they expect?

    What he said!!


    Ban was correct, previous cases were not, sadly thats what justice systems are all about , as the saying go's.

    "Well if thats the law, the laws an ass"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Does anyone else think that Fergie is pissed at Ferdinand?
    I know I would be, It'll be interesting to see what happens in the summer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,734 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    Originally posted by PHB
    Does anyone else think that Fergie is pissed at Ferdinand?
    I know I would be, It'll be interesting to see what happens in the summer

    Well I think the club have to take some of the slack, I mean I'm sure some of the officials at the training ground knew he was meant to take the test!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Did anybody see the interview last night?

    It was like seeing a child being interviewed and a very young and very stupid child at that!

    I originally thought that he had in fact taken recreational drugs and missed the test on purpose as he waited for the drugs to leave his system. But having listened to him last night state that he was told twice within an hour that he had to take the test and by his own admission, he forgot to take it!! Like c'mon FFS Rio, you're a grown man and this is a serious issue, take responsibility for your actions. Fair enough it was an honest mistake, but could you imagine driving around without insurance and then getting stopped by the Police and then trying to tell them that you "forgot" to get it! I know what they'd tell you!!

    I understand that his argument for being treated unfairly was that he was not given a like for like sentence with other players that had either missed a test or were found positive but I'm sorry Rio, that’s how the law works it’s an arbitrary system. The sentence lengths are there as a guideline and every sentence differs due to the individual circumstances. You only have to look at the difference sentences handing out in courts for the likes of murder, not everybody gets a life sentence. What Rio needs to understand is that with playing for Manchester Utd. and England, “a great honour” in his own words, comes with greater responsibilities and greater scruntiy and he needs to grow and take responsibility for his actions.
    And besides, I don’t think there ever was a need for Rio to take a Dope Test, judging by his interview last night it is quite clear that Mr. Ferdinand “is” a Dope!!!


    B.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭Mighty_Mouse


    Are you not ment to comment on an article instead of just plonking the whole thing in as a thread
    Rio missed his drug test. Bad timing cos the authorities coming down hard on drugs. But he deserved. I dont believe for a minute someone misses a DRUG TEST after being told twice about it.

    Also wasnt the first call he made to the club urologist afterwards.

    ps.

    If he missed the test he's as good as guilty and should be tried accordingly. * months for taking drugs is not bad


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Originally posted by Mighty_Mouse
    Are you not ment to comment on an article instead of just plonking the whole thing in as a thread

    What article??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,581 ✭✭✭uberwolf


    Originally posted by Mighty_Mouse
    Are you not ment to comment on an article
    on the politics boards yes, you would be right.


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