plurals..

David-[RLD]- · 25-02-2004 11:08PM #1

how do you know which ending to use for plurals in Irish like like gardaí, riallacha, cailíní etc

is it just a guessing game if you're one of the many people who aren't fortunate enough to be fluent such as myself?

David

Gleanndún · 26-02-2004 08:11AM

unfortunately, pretty much yea. there are declensions n stuff, like the fourth which usually adds an í to form plural, e.g. gardaí, but there are so many irregulars, and even just so many kinds of declension conjugations that you just have to memorize most of them. strong plurals r the 1s that suck, theyre kindof irregular: they erase the rules of the declension and replace them with their own. ut at least all the plurals fit into patterns, the memorization bit is just remember which 1 2 use on which noun!;)

simu · 27-02-2004 01:21AM

B'fhéidir go mbeadh siad seo cabharthach/These might be helpful:

Na hainmfhocail is mó a úsáidtear sa Ghaeilge san uimhir uatha agus san uimhir iolra/ the most commonly used nouns in Irish in singular and plural forms:

http://mbm.8m.com/irish/declination.htm

Seo eolas ar na díochlaonta má tá an choráiste agat tabhairt faoi!/Here's info on the díochlaonta (different categories of nouns) if you're brave!

http://www.ucc.ie/acad/mi/cursai/gramadachnua/grnua2.html

An rud is fearr ná an fhoirm iolra a fhoghlaim i dteannta leis an bhfoirm uatha agus taithí a fháil ar na fuaimeanna - tiocfaidh siad chugat go nádurtha tar éis tamaill! / The best thing is to learn the plural form at the same time as the singular form and get used to how they sound - it will come to you naturally after some time!

Gleanndún · 27-02-2004 07:15AM

heres another useful site, a small dictionary of irish declenations and conjugations: An Foclóir Beag
I use it all the time, very helpful! ^_^

David-[RLD]- · 27-02-2004 05:46PM

go raibh míle maith agat

i thought i'd never learn them. i don't think they taught us that kind of stuff in school.

although maybe i wasn't paying attention. never really liked irish until this year

Gleanndún · 28-02-2004 04:44AM

lol, well judging by wut pp say bout the meathods 4 teaching irish, but then again judging by ur apparent similarity in personality 2 me, i guess it could go either way, huh?:p

luckat · 28-02-2004 12:07PM

I've been trying to persuade a programmer friend to code up an automatic dictionary that would give plurals, genitives, datives for nouns, and the various forms for verbs. Shouldn't be too hard; it'd be a nice website to do, actually.

simu · 28-02-2004 12:49PM

I've been trying to persuade a programmer friend to code up an automatic dictionary that would give plurals, genitives, datives for nouns, and the various forms for verbs. Shouldn't be too hard; it'd be a nice website to do, actually.

Bheadh sésin ar fheabhas! That would be great!

Suaimhneach · 01-03-2004 06:31PM

Cinnte beidh sé, tá fios agam usaidfidh mé é!

Sure it'd be, I know I'd use it!

Gleanndún · 01-03-2004 08:57PM

well if you wanna save yourself a lot of trouble, go to the above site that i posted, cuz thats what it is! *sigh* no one ever listens to me~_~ you might wanna talk to its creators n see if theyd be willing to let you incoporate their precompiled declination/conjugation dictionary into yours. just, you know, tryin to save you guys some trouble^^

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