CD Wow loses / backs down

rubadub · 22-01-2004 01:17PM

who gets the £2? or is it that they are charged exactly £2 more to buy them in the EU. i have got some cds from them which were made in the EU so will it apply to them?
at least dvds are unaffected. and why is it not all of europe?
other threads have people sending email informing cdwow that ireland is no longer part of the UK.
are tehy going to go after play.com next?

sikes · 22-01-2004 01:25PM

i think it is time to start the emails. Could someone who is very good at writin arguments write an email that we can send to everyone in the world!!! i will go and check cd prices if you want, just a few examples.

i would write the email but me english ist nicht so gut

sprogman · 22-01-2004 03:52PM

I will never again buy anther CD/DVD in any high street store in this country - and I will try and persuade anyone who asks the same - if enough poeple to the same then they will need to drop there prices - HMV are/were getting a lot of bad publicity lately - Virgin are as bad or worse... Anyone see there brilliant offers over Xmas - they are taking us all for a ride..... and laughing all the way to the bank....

Johnmb · 22-01-2004 04:04PM

While I agree that the internet stores do offer the best value in general, people should still look around the high street stores for some bargains. Even Dunnes offer good deals on occasion. A couple of examples I recently came accross were "The Holy Grail" in one of the high street stores for €8.99 and "The Pink Panther box set" in Dunnes for €59.99. Both were cheaper than buying over the internet. While I admit this is very rare and about 95% of my purchases are from play or cd-wow, when the high street do give good deals they should be encouraged. Plus there's no point in paying more just to buy over the internet.

sprogman · 22-01-2004 04:14PM

I agree with you - though it is not very often that it does happen. But someday.....

sikes · 22-01-2004 05:14PM

why did the BPI get ireland included in the decision with cdwow. surely the irma had something to do with it

i think we shuold get mary harney after this as she is meant to look after consumers. i have compared prices as of today on cdwow.ie, hmv, and golden discs. will post them later. any1 goin to try to write an email and send it to everyone as a campaign.

surely the irma and bpi are takin away our consumer rights. maybe we could sue !!!

someone help, i need cheap cds!!

regards

Stark · 22-01-2004 05:18PM

why did the BPI get ireland included in the decision with cdwow. surely the irma had something to do with it

Maybe the websites are so closely linked that they need to increase prices across the boards, otherwise the UK people would just order off www.cdwow.ie

John R · 22-01-2004 06:02PM

CD-WOW typical prices

Jul-Dec 2003 (.com.hk) hkd94.99 €9.65
Today (.com.hk) hkd105.99 €10.75 (.com) £7.99 €11.60 (.ie) €13.95
Next Week (.com.hk) +£2/€3 €13.75 (.com) £9.99 €14.60 (.ie) €16.95

They have recently put up the prices by about €1 on the hk site (and the others i think as well) for some reason.

At the new prices the .hk store will still be competitive (just) with play.com but the .ie store is getting close to hmv/virgin territory certainly too close to make the rip-off happy Irish consumer storm out of hmv in disgust.

Genghis · 22-01-2004 06:14PM

k.oriordan - My reading of the CD-wow e-mail is that the surcharge will be applied according to delivery address, not necessarily to the store. Therefore I expect that even if you use the .com.hk version of the site you won't be able to avoid the charge. Therefore that is not a valid reason for 'including' Ireland with the BPI action. I also fail to see why the rest of the EU (or the Western World) are not being surcharged - perhaps this is a matter of time.

sikes · 22-01-2004 09:01PM

if any1 is going to write an email here are some prices of cds i checked in town today compared to cd-wow prices

Album Cd-Wow HMV Golden Discs

RHCP - Greatest Hits 13.95 21.99 19.95 (this is the one without the dvd)
Rollin Stones - 40 licks 10.95 29.99 28.95 (This is true!!!!)
The Darkness 13.95 17.99 15.95
Strokes - Is This It 17.95 24.99 21.95 (and the cdwow one is a special ed with dvd!!!)
Sheryl Crow - Best Of 13.95 21.99 17.95
Essential Springsteen 20.95 24.99 21.95
Westlife - Turnaround 10.95 17.99 16.95 (cdwow w/bonus vcd!!)
Damien Rice O 13.95 17.99 13.95
David Kitt Square 1 13.95 14.99 14.99
Now 56 13.95 26.99 19.95

kobrien_ie · 22-01-2004 09:22PM

My issue with all of this is that there is little or attempt by retailers here to "attract" me. All they want is as much of my money as they can suck out. I will never darken the door of a music retailer ever, ever again.

Stark · 23-01-2004 12:33PM

well said.

kida · 23-01-2004 01:27PM

There will always be another one to replace cd-wow.

Cd Jungles prices compare favourable with the cd-wow.com site, maybe not the hk version and also has free shipping.

CD Jungle

I am sure there are lots more to find also

Kell · 23-01-2004 02:45PM

Was listening to some guy from CDWOW on the last word the other night. The presenter made a very good point of "arent CD's surely priced then on what the market can support and not on fair policies?" to which the guy replied "of course they are".

In other words, CD's are more expensive here becuase the market can afford to pay the inflated prices for them. When the fúck are the government etc ect going to figure out that the celtic tiger died ages ago and that Irish punters CANT afford to be ripped off anymore.

K-

wiped · 24-01-2004 02:46PM

I'd love to think we live in a country that has Government with balls that acts in the best interests of it's people , but alas I'm not sure a place like that exists (although Canada has a good reputation)

I mean look at Mary Hearney for example , the mutated fat faced ugly bunny. That "thing" releases a statement saying that the we, the Irish public, are being over charged for everything because we don't shop around enough and we accept prices. Eh ... sorry ... is that a bit of a cop out Ms. Mutation ?? .. Are the Government not supposed to protect it's people from Monopolies , Cartels , Unfair Trading Standards etc ... yet we can see that Insurance Companies continue to charge us what the **** they want , as can Publicans (because it's regulated industry and therefore a closed shop - you'll find many politician with vested interests in the Publican Trade) and only recently there was an investigation into 12 main Citreon Dealers over Price Fixing .

That's just 3 I can think of off the top of my head but I'm positive there's thousands of examples in this country (feel free to post 'em here).

It's time people took to the streets ... something we don't do enough of in this country ....

It's time to get this joke of a Government OUT .... they don't even regulate themselves for ****s sake ... how has GV Wright still got a position in our Government ..... How can Ray Burke have the cheek to apply for Free Legal Aid - cos he is used to getting away with it ?
All the backhanders , no Governemnt project comes in on budget which just smacks of "Brown Envelopes" ... AAAARRGGGGHHHHHH

C'mon , let dig up Che Geurvara , sew his hands back on , pump 10,000volts through his body , spray on a bit of deo-oderant (cos he's gonna bang a bit) and start a ****in revolution ........................ BURN THE DAIL BAR TO THE GROUND for a start ...

SantaHoe · 25-01-2004 12:49PM

Rollin Stones - 40 licks 10.95 29.99 28.95 (This is true!!!!)

Good God... an extra €19, how many hours does the average joe have to work to make up that difference?
Taking minimum wage at €7, that's almost 3 hours wages that someone needn't have paid.

I have to say I'm also galled at that 'protecting the consumer' spin... are they suggesting that the likes of HMV would have to further increase their prices to ballance off all the lost business CD-Wow were incuring?
Perish the thought that the big retailers might actually have to compete on price.

Screw them.

cranoo · 25-01-2004 01:10PM

Lets FILESHARE all those Cu*ts out of business

Cranoo..

bonkey · 25-01-2004 04:28PM

Originally posted by cranoo
Lets FILESHARE all those Cu*ts out of business

Yes, because once you disagree with the way someone runs their business, its perfectly alright for you to steal from them.

jc

DiscoStu · 25-01-2004 04:45PM

Originally posted by bonkey
Yes, because once you disagree with the way someone runs their business, its perfectly alright for you to steal from them.

jc

give as good as you receive.

Vader · 25-01-2004 04:47PM

Originally posted by bonkey
Yes, because once you disagree with the way someone runs their business, its perfectly alright for you to steal from them.

jc

more words of wisdom from Jesus Christ

bonkey · 25-01-2004 05:01PM

Originally posted by DiscoStu
give as good as you receive.

But they're not stealing from you. They are overcharging you for a luxury item which is by no means essential in your life.

You can choose to buy the CD or not. I don't see filesharers offering the CD-manufacturers the option to be stolen from or not.

You don't want to pay for a CD because its overpriced, then don't....but that doesn't give you the right to have a copy of it. I refuse to buy copy-protected albums, because the stupid tech also prevents me from making copies onto my MD system. However, that doesn't mean I can just go and steal a copy for my MD. I could buy a legal CD, then download the ripped version for my MD, but then the studios would never...as you might say...get as good as they have given. While they maintain their assinine policy in this regard, I will make my objection. If enough people object similarly, the loss of revenue will force them to do something....and they won't have criminal activity to blame for their loss.

And at the simplest level...how many of you filesharers send the artists the money they would have received had you bought a copy of the CD instead of stealing it? They had nothing to do with you being overcharged.

Give as good as you get, indeed. You feel you're being ripped off by someone, so you should rip them off, as well as anyone else who is connected to them, regardless of whether or not these third-parties had anything to do with you being ripped off.

jc

cranoo · 25-01-2004 05:44PM

Originally posted by bonkey

Give as good as you get, indeed. You feel you're being ripped off by someone, so you should rip them off,
jc

When you go to mass tonight say a prayer for me! because im just about to rip off the Stones of their forty licks

cranoo..............ww)

Cork · 25-01-2004 07:53PM

Does CD Wows prices now include the levy?

sunbeam · 25-01-2004 08:02PM

I tried going to the checkout and entering my address. All I can see is the €2/2HKD that they added to some cds last week.

I haven't actually bought anything, so I don't know if they add on anything else after you pay.

Edit: Just received an email from CdWow saying that implementation of the surcharge has been delayed until midnight of Monday 26th January.

therecklessone · 26-01-2004 02:02PM

Full text of e-mail:

Heartfelt thanks for your loyal support.

We are pleased to announce that the imposed price increase of our Chart CDs through a 3.00 Euros (£2.00) surcharge has been delayed by one more day!

So we are battling till the end to offer you the cheapest price in music in the UK and Ireland.

You have until midnight on Monday 26th January 2004 to order before our surcharge comes into effect.

There are still some top titles available from an incredible EUR 10.95 including Free Delivery!

We have been inundated with calls and letters of support - many thanks for your continued loyalty.

Please Note - our prices of DVDs and Games will remain unaffected

So hurry - these titles are expected to sell out quickly!

Warmest Regards,
CD WOW!

NB – This surcharge applies to all of the CD WOW! websites and URLs where the delivery addresses are either the UK or Ireland.

Stark · 26-01-2004 02:38PM

class. I've noticed their stocks are running dry actually so people must be really uptaking of it.

Ste.phen · 26-01-2004 03:24PM

yup, last 3 things i tried to buy were temporarily out of stock, looks like a last minute dash!

SantaHoe · 26-01-2004 08:48PM

Originally posted by bonkey
And at the simplest level...how many of you filesharers send the artists the money they would have received had you bought a copy of the CD instead of stealing it? They had nothing to do with you being overcharged.

Yeah, poor Britney looks like she's just barely keeping up the rent.
If you're unwilling to pay extortionate prices for CDs in the first place, then IMO the artist/record companies aren't losing any money whether you download songs or not. Of course this sounds much like a cop-out, since it's only true of some file sharers, while many others would be ready-willing-and-able to buy said CD's at store prices, ergo it's not really a solid justification for downloading music from P2P, which concordantly would destroy the music industry as we know it. (*wonders if that would be such a bad thing*)
Don't the artists only get a 5% cut anyway?

therecklessone · 27-01-2004 02:30PM

Tried the website(s) today, both .ie and .com.hk include the surcharge after you enter your address and progress to the cc details page.

.ie adds €3, .com.hk adds HK$28 (approx)

Given that the .ie site is already charging €15.95 for most cds, does this mean the extra €3 pushes cdwow into the rip off ireland category???;)

Looks like play.com and Djangos (http://www.djangomusic.com/home.asp) will be getting all my business from now on. Pity.

BaZmO* · 27-01-2004 03:18PM

Originally posted by mollser
from the article;

Something odd I noticed...

Fresh arrived today were 2 cd's, ordered only last Friday from the cdwow hk website:

The Thrills and Good Charlotte.

I had a little look as to where they were 'sourced' from, and low and behold, The Thrills was 'Made in the EU', and Good Charlotte was 'Made in Austria'. (granted, most other cd's i've bought from them were Asian, but thats beside the point

So, it really does beg the question as to how they were able to sell these to me so cheap at €10 odd each, when they were sourced in Europe. BIG BIG margins on these in the shops guys, if CD wow are selling the absolute identical product at half the price.

Kinda blows the Industry's argument out of the water there....:mad:

I was listening to the Last Word the other night and the founder of CD WOW was on and he seemed really pissed off about the whole situation.
He stated that they don't source all their stock just from Hong Kong, they source their stock from all around the world, including Canada, American and Europe. They try to buy up surplus stock and then ship them to their stores in Hong Kong ready to distribute around the world.
He also said that he couldn't take them on in court as there was some type of legal precedent that was set which would made the case impossible to win. He was hoping that an Irish consumer group would take on the case on behalf of Irish citizens....Fat Chance!! :rolleyes:

The thing that I don't understand is that if CD WOW are buying all these CDs legally and paying all the relevent duties how can we be then hit with a surcharge when "we" are the ones importing from a foreign country. Surely it's up to us the importer to pay the relevent import duty?!?! I could understand the surcharge if we were buying our CDs from an Irish site but I can't understand it if we are buying from an international site, surely that's outside their jurisdiction??

I would imagine what happened is that the big record companies put pressure on any companies that sell CDs to CD WOW and told that if they do sell to CD WOW that they wouldn't be supplied anymore. And with CD WOW knowing this they were forced into playing ball!!

B.

CD Wow loses / backs down

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