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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth 8-bit


    Shi+House King is a German expression for such a fella.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,183 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    I was waiting for you to chime in on the UFC at the whitehouse and trying to spin it as something positive. Trump fans, never disappoint lad.

    Nothing about this is prestigious. It’s utterly embarrassing to see a sporting event on the lawn of a government building like this. Prestigious for rednecks and racists.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,942 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Sure, it is absolutely not a trade off I would make.

    But equally plenty of them are perfectly happy with having less time but ordering food/eating out basically every single day which I find bizarre. They are happy their fuel is half the price of ours, even if they have to use more. They prefer driving everywhere instead of having good public transport. They prefer having sprawling suburbs over a functioning city centre. I don't think any of these things are objectively wrong. They just sound miserable to me.

    But this is also pretty easy for me to say from Switzerland. You mention the UK, it does have serious problems and is in danger of being both much poorer and also having pretty crappy services and care. I would give serious consideration to the US over the UK at the moment - though neither much appeal to me.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,697 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Trump administration handing 280 hectares of wildlife reserve to SpaceX in return for company land further north.

    US bond auction last week sold $646bn which amounts to borrowing that much. How it went indicates the markets expect higher interest rates. NB an outstanding bond is one that hasnt yet reached when the principal has to be repaid (maturation). Note the act of repaying the principal is called "redemption".

    $527bn of these bonds range from 4 weeks to 52 weeks .

    Of these auction sales, $527 billion were Treasury bills, spread over seven auctions, with maturities from 4 weeks to 52 weeks, most or all of them to replace maturing T-bills; and $119 billion were 3-year and 10-year Treasury notes and 30-year Treasury bonds. That $119 billion in issuance replaced $60 billion of maturing notes, and no bonds matured, causing the total amount of notes and bonds outstanding to increase on net by $59 billion this week.

    This was also the week two big inflation reports were released, showing that consumer price inflation had accelerated to 4.25% in May, and that producer price inflation had accelerated to 6.46%, which, along with another Iran-deal announcement on Thursday, created some special dynamics for long-term yields.

    But Treasury yields of 1 year and shorter are not impacted by inflation. They’re boxed in by the Fed’s policy rates and by market expectations of those policy rates within their remaining maturity window.

    In the secondary market, the short-term yields, after edging up in prior weeks, were roughly unchanged this week, all them across the board now substantially below the rates of inflation – so negative “real” yields. And they continued to point at a rate hike late this year.

    Post edited by Ozymandius2011 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,379 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Its a shame McGregor didnt sign on for it. Woulda been perfect way to celebrate the occassion.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,380 ✭✭✭Field east


    Podge , I respectfully suggest that u are missing the point . I humbly want to make the point missed as follows:- country A and B each has a population of 2 . The income in each country is exactly €40,000 per year . In country A each individual receives €20,000 per year.

    And in country B one individual receives €38,000 and the other receives €2,000

    I think that I would be ‘inclined ‘ to pick ‘A’ as a place of choice to live in

    One of the core problems in the US apart from the gun culture, etc, is the utter LACK OF SUPPORT if you lose your business or job - you apparently are. On your own



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,658 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Not disagreeing that the US isn't an economic success story, it is for some of its corporations and their leads, but with the massive debt, the massive country debt, many surveys showing people can't handle $500 in an emergency expense, the average person living large is doing it on debt

    Couldn't see the data you posted on the phone now. How did it define household income?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,942 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Respectfully in return, you have fundamentally misunderstood both the concept of "median" and the overall economic situation of the US. Your case study here is nonsense and in no way reflective of reality.

    The reality is the opposite of what you think. They receive more income across every decile except the bottom one or two.

    One of the core problems in the US apart from the gun culture, etc, is the utter LACK OF SUPPORT if you lose your business or job - you apparently are. On your own

    The US actually has quite a large social welfare program. Unemployment assistance is however a State competence. I would not want to be there and fall on hard times, but help is not non-existent. The floor is certainly higher in Europe.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,697 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Ive heard US corporate bankruptcy law is more forgiving than in Europe.

    Courts can grant special priority status to lenders providing rescue financing, making it easier to fund a turnaround.

    Ireland has mechanisms for rescue funding, but they are generally less developed and less commonly used than in the U.S.

    Also the existing directors can stay in place in the US except where there is fraud, gross incompetence or serious conflicts of interest ,in which case a court can appointed a trustee. Whereas in Europe, an examiner or liquidator tends to be appointed even without fraud. In Ireland with examinership, the directors remain in place, but not if a liquidator is appointed..



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,942 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Individuals in the US do not have massive debt - they have incredibly average levels of debt as I just showed. The country has massive debt and that may well end up being a problem at some point but is a separate topic.

    I have zero faith in self-reported surveys on people's economic situations. We know the median level of savings that people have and the median person in the US can handle a $500 emergency - the median family has about $8k in readily accessible liquid funds - they just won't be happy about it and that leads to silly responses in these surveys. I have seen several that claim that because the person says they would put the expense on their credit card they are relying on debt which is utterly ridiculous, I put everything on my credit card. Who the hell doesn't put an expense on a credit card if they have the choice??

    It is the same as the paycheque to paycheque nonsense that comes out from people who are earning multiples of the median salary.

    Not disagreeing that the US isn't an economic success story, it is for some of its corporations and their leads

    This is the core of the problem. It is an economic success story for the majority of the population but some people simply stubbornly refuse to admit this and pretend it is just some tiny minority. You don't have to like America or want to move there for any myriad number of reasons, but it is economically successful for a large majority of its populace and every single economic indicator we have proves that. They have less household debt to disposable income than half of Europe including significantly less than rich countries like Switzerland and Netherlands. It helps, of course, that they have more disposable income to begin with but that is the crux of my point.

    How did it define household income?

    It is disposable income not household income, and it is the sum of consumption and savings.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,380 ✭✭✭Field east


    It’.s how the bottom one or two decile that I was referring to and how they are ‘treated/not treated’. I was in a Texas city for two months a while back and I noticed fairly old , withered and haggard looking men doing all kinds of menial jobs. On enquiring why the answer was that it is their main/ only source of income



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    Impeachment calls fly as Trump appears to 'casually' threaten to nuke Iran

    "Daniel Kurz, a professor of political science at Middlesex County College in New Jersey and self-described Democratic Party activist, also called for the president to be removed from office.

    “Trump threatens to nuke Iran. Heinous words and they won’t work anyway,” Kurz wrote in a social media post on X. “He’s insane. Impeach and Remove. Now.”

    The guy is a nutter, needs to be sectioned, Stormy said in Court she shagged him so she could get out of the hotel bedroom as he blocked her way to the door and she was afraid + he had a minder outside the door.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭Maxface


    I see no issue with the UFC thing. I mean, it is crass in some ways but, thats what Trump brings to the Whitehouse, so fully expected. Look at the Oval Office, looks like somebody bought a load of gold stuff on Temu and redecorated. And again, thats fine, that is what he brings to the office.

    What I cant stand though is, the hypocrisy. If they, I guess Republicans, sat there and said yeah, we took issue with a tan suit at one stage or the time we took issue with Hunter Biden and using the President to make money. They wont though, they will sit there and see no issue with any of it and wont take responsibility for how it looks. That makes most arguments pointless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭somenergy


    UFC at the WH is a **** show and Americans should have stopped it mass protests outside

    The world is paying for this lunatic america is ripping us off, boycott musk he was made a trillionaire by trump it's as dangerous as Iran becoming stronger.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,942 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Well being out in the Texas sun will make you look withered and haggard pretty fast. But we have plenty of old manual labours in Europe who have no choice but to continue working until retirement age also. There are pension systems in the US.

    If you want to be concerned about the bottom 10/20% then fine - that is perfectly legitimate and it is one argument against their system. But your hypothetical above really isn't capturing that element. The bottom 10% in Europe frequently do fairly poorly as well, it is hardly all sunshine and light for them here either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth 8-bit


    @Stanley 1 All because the Iran Government will not sign Trump's own "biggliest beautiful" deal to conclude the conflict today.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,942 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    It being expected and it being acceptable are two entirely different things though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 422 ✭✭CajunSurprise


    When did the 250th anniversary of American Independence move from the 4th of July to the 14th June?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,009 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,186 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    The original 250 celebration team (America250), who had apparently been working on it since 2016, got replaced by the thinly veiled Trump's birthday committee (Freedom250). They're selling UFC Freedom 250 coins with Trump's face on them to commemorate it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,422 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I wouldn't disagree with any of this.

    Didn't know you live in Switzerland. I've applied for positions there as it happens.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,874 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Absolutely, it’s what you want out of life.

    What I want can’t be obtained in NYC where lots is in walking distance and there is a great public transport system. We used to live in such a place (San Francisco). Wife is from NYC area. We decided we wanted calmness, serenity. Low stress. And our hobbies. And these can’t be obtained from the house I was in in Dublin. (Or any place I could likely afford in Dublin, for that matter). I have a low-stress life. I’m currently typing this sitting on the back porch of my home, sipping coffee next to the wife listening to the waterfall going into my pool in the 50x50m back yard, and contemplating where I’m going to lay the tracks for the garden railroad. I might do a HO one as well, we are talking about installing a new floor above the cars. (Garage has a 16’ ceiling). Wife is excited that the hummingbirds are back at their feeder (They migrated away for the winter). She got a Birdbuddy for Christmas, gets great enjoyment out of watching the local backyard avians (which includes a good sized hawk) on her ‘phone app. I live in the city limits, the city has a population of 2mn. I took this photo from my front door.

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    It’s just plain nice here. My parents have a flat in Vienna. Beautiful city. Very walkable, quick train ride to other beautiful cities like Prague and Budapest. I love visiting it. I have no desire to live there. Different type of nice.

    I live in a UN City of Gastronomy. I have an airport 12 miles away where my record thus far is 28 minutes from sitting in my garage to sitting in my seat on a 737, it’s no harder for me to get to a change of scenery than for you in Ireland. (I average 12 trips a year, with a month’s vacation time. We love to travel, and the airport helps)

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    I do need a car to get to the park and ride public transportation, which is three miles away (6-7 minutes), has free parking and the express bus costing $2.60 has two stops: Airport and downtown, which is very pretty and walkable. The bus does the 21 miles downtown where I we can have dinner on the Riverwalk in a scheduled 35 minutes. But sure, there is less culture here than a cup of yoghurt, apparently. Despite having a UNESCO World Heritage Site.

    image.jpeg


    I can drive with the roof down in January, just enjoying the sunshine (not every day in January, granted, but not unusually). Wife and I both enjoy driving for the sake of driving, it’s not only a form of transportation, and the cars are affordable to run. My annual registration is $55 for a German V8. Three hours in one of said cars gets us to Galveston and a Caribbean cruise. Not sure the Rosslare ferry is as nice.

    Believe it or not, I don’t walk around in fear of getting gunned down, though I fully accept that the US has a gun violence problem. Last time the kid had to go to the ER (hurt himself in martial arts class), the wait was five minutes. And I’m not bankrupt as a result of it, or the time he went due to breathing issues a few months earlier. I am irked that I can’t seem to find the World Cup in English, due to paywalls in local streaming, but it’s OK: My seven year old speaks fluent Spanish because the local (free) public school system offers his education in Spanish in an immersion program. The (free) school bus picks him up from our front door, granted at an ungodly hour because for some reason primary school kicks off at 0730. The only catch is he’s learning a Mexican dialect, whilst mom speaks in Puerto Rican.

    I had looked at what I was earning in Blanchardstown, looked at what seemed to be my future over the next ten years, and decided to move. I have absolutely zero regrets about moving, just as you apparently have zero regrets about staying where you are.

    My experience is not universal. There are those who, as Podge has observed, are worse off than their counterparts in Europe. But I am no oligarch either. I’m just an American who landed in the country 26 years ago with $1,500 in his pocket (and a credit card with a $2,500 limit) with no job lined up.

    I submit you are out of line saying that some place you refuse to even visit is a place worthy of scorn. Some of us here actually like it here and whilst acknowledging many of the downsides you observe are true, also still think we are better off overall. If you don't want to live here, fine. It's what's important to you. But to say it's not a good life is not on.

    And to be fair, this problem isn’t unique to foreigners. CNN yesterday had a reporter comment about how the South was going all-in on welcoming Freddy, in a way which wasn’t expected. It hasn’t gone over well.

    https://x.com/alexchristy17/status/2065462500670222400

    Perhaps if said reporter had actually arsed himself to drive around the South the same way Freddy is doing, he might have had a reasonable expectation of what folks down there are like.

    Post edited by Manic Moran on


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,942 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Well, you are in luck as the referendum today to limit the population to 10M people, which would have severely restricted immigration, failed.

    Though the fact it was on the ballot would be concerning to many (me included) and it only just lost. No country is perfect and I really can't help but feel commentary on the US as a whole loses all sense of perspective.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,760 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    There’s a growing expat Irish community working at the Lonza plant in Visp. It’s not where Podge lives though. Personally I find Switzerland a great country to live in. Although it’s really 26 mini countries as each canton is quite different from the others.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth 8-bit


    chris norlund dispensing some grounded decent advice to US Frontline operatives: dont throw youselves under the bus for Trump he doesnt care



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,186 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    That would have been an economic disaster from the sound of it. Some skill demands will always be better served by immigration. A hard limit would cause some sectors to stagnate. Healthcare would be the most obvious one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,183 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Sounds like there are thunderstorms near the whitehouse tonight for UFC. If there is a lightening strike near the event it’ll be stopped.

    I’m doing my rain dance on overdrive



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,915 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Do you just support rapists in general then?

    Could have gotten Jimmy Saville in to DJ the whole thing if he was still knocking about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,009 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    "Top White House officials believe New York Times reporters Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan obtained audio recordings of Situation Room meetings for their forthcoming book, “Regime Change.” The concern stems from the book’s verbatim accounts of discussions on the Iran conflict and the Epstein files. Independent recording devices are prohibited in the Situation Room. The book is based on more than 1,000 interviews, and the authors declined to comment. (AXIOS)"

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,009 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    With musical interlude provided by Gary Glitter

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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