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Belfast Far Right Riots 2026 [Mod Note in OP]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,096 ✭✭✭conorhal


    The birth rate in Switzerland is 1.29, so well below the replacement rate, so it's population is falling. I would imagine that a cap would be managed by controling migration and visa's handed out. With a population of 9.2 million people there's room for 800,000 more people, hit that and you simply don't allow anbody else in. What a surprise that the 'pro migrant' side can only think in terms of who they get to kill to achieve their numbers, as usual, it's babies and the elderly that first come to mind for your average lefty.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 46,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Leaving aside the childish "lefty" digs, it has been suggested that the intent is to put Switzerland in a position where it is incompatible with many of its agreements with the EU and therefore would result in their own form of Brexit (and we all know how successful that has been 🙄).

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,919 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    That last sentence is as unhinged as it is disingenuous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,124 ✭✭✭An Claidheamh


    In a nutshell.

    The failure of the Irish media and State to identify and condemn the Northern fascists as British loyalists (and their Irish allies as traitors) and the British media to refuse to acknowledge this also, shows how useless and face saving they are.


    Lest we forget, the conflict in the North started with Brit bullies burning the Irish out of their homes in the 60s.


    Wonder how long until the Brit nats and loyalists start attacking Nationalist areas?

    We will know when FF/FG blame them for defending themselves.


    Interesting development :

    https://www.crimeworld.com/northern-ireland/high-profile-dissident-says-republicans-will-be-mobilising-to-defend-homes-targeted-in-belfast-disorder/a/156702456.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,436 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I've always wondered what people get out of posting such absolute scutter. I've never gotten an answer.

    It just seems that if you're to the left of Genghis Khan, you're a far left activist who supports open borders.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭Glenomra


    There are over 300 roads linking the republic with Northern Ireland. It would take some patrolling. I wish it was easy as matters are spiraling out of any level of control.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    It's funny how every where this is happening it's the fault of all the lefties who have never been in government.

    It must be a horrible existence to be that paranoid all the time.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 46,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    In fact, the attacker's request for asylum was assessed (and subsequently refused but he was given leave to remain) under the Tory government which was a right leaning government.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,436 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The impression that I've had for a while is that these lads have gotten these talking points from their social media echo chambers and just repeat them here. I regularly find that, when pressed, they struggle to elaborate because that's not what happens in said echo chambers.

    I recall two telling reactions to a request for a definition of the word "woke". One was hysteria that I would ask such a thing and another was a dump of hundreds of words of text from some American site.

    Modern conservatism, especially Trumpism strongly discourages enquiry and debate. You simple accept and regurgitate dogma. Any questions are met with the usual tactics.

    Speaking of immigration, why is it the only place when people express "genuine concerns"? Where are these concerns when it comes to austerity, the HSE, schools, infrastructure, domestic policy or mass emigration? Why do we never see the genuine concerns people then?

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    And many of the government ministers at the time are the ones jumping up and down about it in Reform right now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    Or indeed, violence against the women and children they claim to want to protect.

    If a white person carries out horrible attacks like that and there's talk about men being violent, they all clutch their pearls and refuse to have anything to do with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,440 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    It's not a case of wouldn't, it's a case of can't. Technical jobs are very specialised. In my particular area there's maybe 50-100 in Ireland with my level of experience. If you're looking for engineers with particular experience with a particular technology, it can be hard to find them.

    Springboard also covers Hdips and masters. Both are postgrad. And it's either free or very heavily subsidised. And a lot are online and in the evening. But a lot of people won't do them because they don't have, or don't believe they have, a technical aptitude. Years ago I did a HDip in Software Development. Well over 50% of the class would not go on to do anything in development. They just didn't like it. Many of the others would start but eventually move out of technical positions because they didn't like it.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 56,288 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    indeed - when a white man commits violence against a woman, it's #notallmen.

    when a black person commits violence - burn them out of their houses.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,436 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Exactly:

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    Here's an example of a woman who was the victim of white men speaking at a rally. It does not go well for her:

    https://v.redd.it/qcugkuyqgyrf1

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,944 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Why does this need to be pointed out over and over again.

    Homegrown crime is unfortunately part of life in any country as sadly you'll never have a crime free country, however just because there are homegrown scumbags doesn't mean that they should be imported from abroad. Scumbags arriving here are a policy decision by government as they can restrict numbers if they wish and implement policies and strict vetting that reduces the chances of scumbags arriving.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,381 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Hell its not even "them" they are too thick to even focus on burning the black/brown ones, it just becomes "burn everything". They've burned out houses/cars belonging to white people in their pyrolust frenzy.

    Theres a quarter braincell between the lot of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    So we shouldn't have a discussion about male violence against women when an Irish man does it. There's nothing to see here.

    Got it. Let's just not listen to the women of this country and only pay attention to the skin colour of a man.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭scottser


    I am literally rolling on the floor laughing at your utter stupidity :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,944 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    There is constant discussion about male violence against women, violence aganst women is sadly never going away though as unfortunately there are a certain percentage of scumbags in every country.

    We did have a big discussion and a bout of self flagellation around Aisling Murphys murder and how we as Irish men need to do better and how Irish mens a inherent sexist and misogynistic attitude towards women caused this murder, it then turned out a few days later that he was from Slovakia and the discussion was very quickly dropped because the media didn't want to be point out that allowing scum like him and his family to live in Ireland without contributing indirectly led to her murder.

    We then had another big discussion and bout of self fleggelation around the beheading of the 2 gay men in Sligo and how Irish people have in-built homophobia because we used to be a very conservative catholic country, it then turned out a few days later that the killer was an iraqi Muslim and it was decided by the media not to have a discussion about how being an Iraqi muslim might possibly contribute to hating gay people but it was ok for the same media to imply how being a catholic country might lead to someone here being homphobic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,673 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    This current item and many others are covered extensively in the media though none of this is hidden?

    Do you think the media don't cover murders and attacks because they do fully.

    I'm not sure of the point here, are you trying to infer a cover up that doesn't exist ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭scottser


    I mean, this is the level of gobshitery you're dealing with:

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mnzdnhbanc2l



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,673 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Yup probably got that from the main musk troll himself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,944 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    They avoid discussing why they are allowed to stay here in the first place.

    The mainstream media largely avoided pointing out that Puska was able to kill because he'd been allowed to leech of the tax payer for 15 years when he should have been sent home to Slovakia long ago. Same applied with the Iraqi guy who beheaded to 2 men in Sligo same applies for these Sudanese guy in Belfast. Those 3 never should have been here in the first place.

    Very strict vetting procedure around immigration/asylum is what people want, it means we'll only get high quality people arriving on our shores. Sadly this appears to have been abandoned as an idea in much of the western world when in reality it should be a core principle of immigration policy in every single country in europe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,786 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    No more sexy time then,

    I'll tell the lads

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    True, but the vast majority of crossings take place across a handful of roads



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,673 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Erm dude. Slovakia is in the EU. Youd be able to head there the same as him. As for criming yes of course lock people up and then send them home.

    You can't be throwing all scenarios into the same bucket, life's more complicated that that.

    And the media is driven by money and clicks. They're not having your required discussion due to some subversion they're moving on to the next clicky topic.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,710 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Michael O'Leary, boss of Ryanair, asked by Pat Kenny about the destruction of documents by asylum seekers.

    He says Ryanair are photographing the travel ID and want to be able to share them with the Dept of Justice.

    The government should allow these photographs to be here for identification.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭golondrinas




  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 46,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    True, but the vast majority of crossings take place across a handful of roads

    Ok so you introduce border checkpoints on the main roads.
    Now, feel free to take your time on this as it might be a tough question - what do you think might happen on all the other roads as a result?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,011 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    But how can any government legislate their way around this? By all means, we should have laws that anyone who is a violent criminal cannot enter the country (or is liable to quick deportation), but some of the lone nutjobs we've seen don't have a criminal record or and are not known to psychiatric services.

    There is always the risk in society that certain lone individuals will go off the rails. I don't particularly like the argument that with immigration, we are 'importing' criminals or violent individuals - it completely ignores the fact that we are also 'importing' huge numbers of decent, hard working people who can make a contribution to society. That argument focuses solely in on the rotten apples and completely ignores the good behaviour of the 99%+ who are doing well.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭Yeah Right


    Those 3 never should have been here in the first place.

    Based on what? The fact that they committed heinous crimes? Can I have a lend of your Delorean so I can go back and tell everyone? Or better yet, tell me what we should be looking out for with all future applicants, to prevent this reoccurring again, please?

    Very strict vetting procedure around immigration/asylum is what people want, it means we'll only get high quality people arriving on our shores. Sadly this appears to have been abandoned as an idea in much of the western world when in reality it should be a core principle of immigration policy in every single country in europe.

    What parts of the vetting procedure aren't up to scratch and what would you change about them?

    What would you do differently?

    What are the indicators that we should be looking out for?

    Are there any procedures that currently aren't undertaken by the relevant officials that you'd like to see implemented?

    What's that? You've no idea? You don't have the foggiest notion of what actually happens during a vetting procedure, nor do you have the faintest idea of how to improve them because, again, you don't know what you're talking about?

    Let's face it, you have nothing other than "we shouldn't be letting murderers in". Well, as soon as you come up with a way to predict that, something that is not 100% based on hindsight, you let us know, chief, and we'll get right on it.

    Until then, your words are meaningless.



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