Henry Nowak - I can’t breathe

"I don't think you have mate" was said by one of the cops when he told them directly he'd been stabbed, sorry but that's shocking way to respond to someone who is lying in a heap on the ground. To just outright dismiss him like that was incredibly poor.

The media are interested in it because it was an horrific case that showed how incredibly negligent the police were. You are only dismissing the genuine interest because it conflicts with your world view and you can't stand it that all the people pointing out the DEI/Anti-Racism nonsense pushed by the police in the UK was a bad idea that would lead to negative consequences have sadly been proven to be correct.

I linked earlier to a Polish doctor working in an English hospital who wrote a lengthy analysis of the incident based on the publicly available "Sentencing Remarks" where the Judge discusses excerpts from the section report, the one you just quoted from, I believe.

He says that the claim that he could not have been saved at any point after the attack, or even after the police arrived, does not seem to be right.

A number of other doctors have since posted on the thread I linked to, and not one of them has disagreed so far. For instance one who says that if it's true that he died at 67 min post injury and 60 min after police arrived, then that is clearly enough time to get him to theatre and for the surgeons stop the bleeding. That doesn't mean he would have survived (it's a different point to the more detailed analysis) - what they're saying is that it's "ludicrous to say it was non-survivable. We don't know precisely what happened, and we don't know if he could have survived. We do know that calling the injury non-survivable lacks any credibility."

So why on earth might the judge want to smooth things over by claiming that it wouldn't have made any difference anyway?

Oh wait.😒

There's no such thing as two tier policing. It's a white supremacist conspiracy theory.

Really bad faith posting their tbh.Just throw out the whole white supremacist nonsense to throw the thread off track.

I'm fairly sure that when they said they didn't want it to be politicised they ALSO meant people saying that the media are "only interested because it suits Reform and the far right, causes they've worked hard to promote". It doesn't get much more "political" than that awful comment!

Moreover, his sister Olivia is reposting Robert Jenrik on TikTok, asking Shabana Mahmood if "white lives matter just as much as everyone else’s?" So is she "far right"? And his father said that the police treatment of his dying son was "inhumane and degrading".

And I’m pretty sure that when Henry Nowak’s father said he did not want his son’s death to create more division, he did not mean: "I want left-wing politicians and commentators to weaponise my grief to shut down debate."

So I suspect it's more likely comments like yours they're objecting to rather than wanting all discussion shut down.

You know that line about justice "not only being done but being seen to be done"? That's the problem with reaching straight for the "White supremacist" nonsense. Especially as you outlined your own conspiracy theory about the media just now, so you're hardly exempt from "conspiracy" thinking yourself.

Thing is, it doesn't really matter that there is no official "two tier" system - it matters that it looks like there might be. And TBF, the police "Anti racism commitment" document which explicitly said racial equality "does not mean treating everyone 'the same' or being 'colour blind'" is actually getting uncomfortably close to said 2-tier system - as was the recent attempt to bring in different sentencing guidelines for ethnic minorities.

All of that really was handing those who believe there is 2 tier justice a massive reason to believe it. It just seems to confirm everything they suspect.

And calling people far right for caring that an 18 year old lad was left to die like an abandoned dog on cold gravel more than an hour after he was stabbed is not going to make people think "Oh yeah well I wouldn't want to be far right. Best just say it's not that awful really, could happen to anyone." It's going to make people think "Well if it's far right to be upset by that, then maybe the far right aren't all that bad."

If Farage or some other far right clown gets into power, it will be the fault of leftwing extremists who think it's perfectly fine to politicise the death of a violent thug like George Floyd, but that the death of an 18 year old lad who seems like the nicest person could only be being exploited for political reasons.

It actually tells me that politicians like Kaur who were so exercised about Floyd's death didn't ever care about it - she, and they, were only exploiting it for their own reasons. And that's why they assume that everyone else is doing the same.

the idea that this story is of interest to the media as it promotes Reform is utter nonsense - it’s of interest because it touches on a very raw nerve that everyone has in the UK at the moment. That the government of the day is against them and that this is becoming institutionalized. Britain is very very divided and some cases are lightning rods..

Absolutely. I find the arguments that "It's very rare" (so one death/a few deaths? is a price worth paying) and "It wouldn't have made any difference, he'd have died anyway" (so it doesn't matter that he died miserably on ground having his rights read to him like a criminal, or that the police officer who coldly said "I think he's going to be sick" was actually listening to him suffocating in his own blood) to be unspeakably cruel and offensive.

And saying that the media "only care because it promotes the far right" is only slightly less offensive. That video was so awful, and when you compare it to the video his sister posted where he was dancing with her, the notion that only the fdar right could possibly be revolted by his death is bizarre. I find it so upsetting. Just like the Stephen Lawrence killing was upsetting - but nobody expected his family not to be "divisive". That contradiction in itself is an issue: it was quite ok for Stephen Lawrence's mother to campaign about the racist aspect of his death, but the Nowaks were obviously handed a statement by lawyers to make, and that's now being used to shut down equivalent comments about the racist aspects of his death.

What the government is against them? The one they just voted in 2 years ago or the government that they voted out after being in power for 14 years that they dumped out for not being for their interests?

differ subsets think different administrations are unfair on them

Digwa isn't black. From the link in that article, the rate of arrests of Asians in Southhampton is exactly the same as for whites.

Plus I wonder how many failures to arrest the guilty-but-nonwhite perp plus needless death of the white victim it takes to even up the score? I think a death would count for an awful lot of arrests, don't you?

(Separately, I was a little disappointed to see in that article that Stephen Lawrence's friend who was with him when he was killed is so lacking in empathy for Nowak and his family.)