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Eurovision Song Contest 2026

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,376 ✭✭✭supereurope


    Deserved better on the night, perhaps, but it was right it didn't win. Gina G was very off vocally, and in what would be the final year of 100% jury vote, she didn't stand a chance. She also had the misfortune of performing second in the running order too, though back then, the juries voted for each song immediately after it had been sung, so perhaps she wasn't as damaged as that as by a bad vocal.

    There's a lot of fans who insist, 30 years on, that had the televote come a few years earlier, she'd have stormed to victory. I doubt that, because singing second with a televote, she'd have been long forgotten by the time the lines opened.

    In a way it was a shame she sang so poorly, and so early. The 1996 contest was full of ballads and New Age sounds, and the running order was dreadful - it's a real slog to get though songs 20 to 22, and I think that's what cost Sweden the win that year…most juries had tuned out by song 23.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,015 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I'm not sure there is such a thing as first right of refusal any more. When Ukraine were not in a position to host in 2023, it was more that the BBC 'offered' to host rather than being automatically entitled to do so (through finishing second).

    It seems if a country declines to host, the decision goes to the EBU and they could theoretically ask any country they like to host the next Contest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,015 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I saw many people on social media saying they found the voting sequence at the end very stressful and quite a few feared that Israel had won. As you say, this cannot be allowed to continue…..Israel (or their supporters) hijacking the televote sequence year in, year out (with songs that are not winner material) is unprecedented and damaging the Contest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,376 ✭✭✭supereurope


    I've seen lots of clips on BlueSky or YouTube of fans celebrating the result, declaring the contest had been saved. But it hasn't. It's been saved FOR NOW, and we're all going to have to go through this again next year. And Israel isn't going to stop until it has won.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,015 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Problem with this split screen thing is that it's probably going to go pear shaped soon enough and we'll discover they actually have won the Contest. I wouldn't be assuming for a moment that their results will get worse from now on.



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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 5,596 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rawr


    I share the same feeling. I suspect similar voting shenanigans to last Eurovision were at play and if the EBU can't (or critically don't want to) address any member state trying to stuff the ballot like this, then the contest is on it's way to a potential implosion down the road.

    The EBU might be breathing a collective sigh of relief that Isreal did not win this time, but as you say their salvation is only for now.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,898 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    Back in the 80s I Eve the further USSR using events like the Olympics to put their best foot forward. Nowadays we’d call it sportswashing but back then we just knew the athletes winning these medals and breaking records were cheating. In the end after some noticeable sport clean up its act. Now we have countries who are for floating the rules being banned from international competition.

    unfortunately it took an independent international body to resuscitate the image and integrity of sport you now have athletes been regularly tested in competition and countries being monitored.

    it’s probably at the point where oversight and management of the floating process needs to be from the EBU. seem to be incapable of cleaning up the mess but there’s also the additional issue that at least back in the 80s we had enough countries who could agree that cheating was wrong and that be ostracised. I don’t think anyone who really matters is capable or willing to take the country most guilty to task. I fully independent and not aligned panel might help the situation though. Mind you I suppose in the end all they could do was make recommendations which the EBU would either follow or choose to ignore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,363 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    So are we out permanently now because Israel will still be there next year and the year after…



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 5,596 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rawr


    Potentially. I'd agrue that Ireland should have stopped years ago since RTE appeared to have long ago stopped wanting to win the thing.

    Ireland's a very musical nation, famously so. Even after all of these years only Sweden has matched Ireland's win tally and so far none have managed the Hat-trick of wins. That was due to Ireland's musical talent amoung other things.

    However in the years since that hat-trick RTE has half-assed it and have put forward nonsense like Dustin the Turkey. I sense RTE were more creative at finding ways to put forward a weaker entry and make it look like it was the viewing public who made it happen. I feel that any hope for another Irish win is long gone…especially now with qualification rounds often knocking Ireland's entry out before the Final itself.

    They might as well save the money and maintain the boycott until we get to a point where there's a hunger to actually try to win the thing again. It's one thing you can at least say about us Irish…we try to win a contest like this because we genuienly are a musical people. A Eurovision win is for us often mostly a celebration of that…and not an attempt to paper over the war crimes of a state.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,259 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,376 ✭✭✭supereurope


    Everyone is so relieved about the result that I've only just realised that Bulgaria is the winner we've been waiting for for a long time…a song pretty close to what's happening in real-world music, a landslide winner, jury and televote agreement that it was the best song (last happened in 2017), and a winner that came almost from nowhere. Last Monday morning, no one was talking about Bulgaria as a winner.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,148 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    It's not just because of RTÉ not wanting to win the competition. It is largely down the the competition itself. It is very politically driven, see how the Moldovan presenter called the DG of their Public service broadcaster to complain that Jury had only give 3 points to Romania, I think the audience vote was 12 points.

    As a song contest it has lost it way and went that way since 1998.

    I don't get the disdain for Dustin, which is now nearly 2 decades ago, much like our wins well in the past.

    RTÉ used its exit to shield itself from its own incompetence.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,376 ✭✭✭supereurope


    I don't understand this story:

    https://eurovoix.com/2026/05/17/moldova-trm-issues-statement-eurovision-voting/

    Surely it's a GOOD thing if a jury votes (or doesn't vote in this case) for a song based on its merits alone and doesn't take things like neighbours into consideration?

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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,898 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    We’ve seen plenty of novelty acts in intervening years. Now Dustin doesn’t seem that far fetched. I always think The Voice was a strange winner for us. Kind of a novelty act as well. Still, well done Einear. I suppose it fit its time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,015 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I think it might be the best winner since Maneskin (or Duncan Laurence). The staging really elevated it and Dara is a fantastic performer - it's a rare event for a contemporary dance / EDM track to win over the juries and top their ranking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,015 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    There's no way RTE wanted to leave the competition though. It's one of the jewels in their calendar alongside the Late Late Toy Show, Rose of Tralee, All Ireland Final etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,148 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Yeah there is an argument to be had there, but where does it put them for next year? The audience numbers for the this week will be very week, considering that TLLS finished up early also. I suppose this year they have the WC so they don't really have to worry to much.

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    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,015 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Very much up in the air what will happen re. RTE and the other boycotting nations for 2027. Presumably there will be meetings of the EBU and all broadcasters in the early autumn - it will be a case of 'watch this space'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,376 ✭✭✭supereurope


    Personally, I think Wasted Love was the weakest song to win this decade. Of course, it didn't really matter, as long as it kept that country off the top spot. But it's great that we have both a strong winning song AND it stopped that country winning.

    Belgium's VRT (for the Dutch-speaking part of the country) has already said it's unlikely to send a song next year. This year's Belgian song came from the French-speaking broadcaster RTBF, and I believe the French-speaking part is far less supportive of Palestine than the Dutch-speaking half. So unless RTBF sends a song again, we won't see Belgium next year. That NYT article stated that Norway and Portugal both came close to joining the boycott this year, so it's possible one of them will now pull out, most likely Portugal, after an NQ this year and its neighbour Spain already out. However, it looks like Hungary might come back following the change of government there. I think it'll be 35 countries again max. next year, unless something changes. Right now, I predict 34 countries (Belgium and Portugal out, Hungary back.)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭hamburgham


    I think it’s a myth that we are musical. I don’t know anyone who plays an instrument or sings. Music education is almost non existant. In what way are we more musical than any other country?



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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,898 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    I think if Belgium or maybe Portugal pull out next year it’s becoming quite telling. I know all countries competing are equal but it’s also telling if 4 of the countries who have been there singer the early days are pulling out, also one which is a big 5 and ourselves. I know Sweden gets a lot of the Eurovision live but we are up there with them in terms of Eurovision achievement. Things are bad if some of your heavyweights are raising concerns and they’re not crank pots either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,148 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I think we are as musical as any other country. But we certainly don't support music in schools. Neither my primary nor secondary school had a band, both had Choirs. I am sure the colleges had societies, but no college band or orchestra. UCD, TCD and UL have orchestras.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭Migdal_Or


    I don't think viewing figures really matter when it comes to RTE television or radio. The radio listenership figures released last week were poor, and they were filed under "fully expected". Until heads roll for poor performance, nothing is really going to change.

    I was thinking about the future of the contest from our perspective yesterday, and you have to wonder whether it is the right time for Ireland to take an extended break. We have been one of the worst-performing ever-present nations in the contest for the guts of 20 years, with no light at the end of that tunnel, when you consider the state of affairs in RTE.

    I never bought into the boycott this year in the first place, for a variety of reasons, and the fact that they sent a team over to cover competition week, has to make you question the motivation behind it. Part of me wonders if the boycott was just an excuse to try to claw back some of the support they have lost over the past few years domestically, while also saving themselves from the now near-annual humiliation of nobody voting for their entry at the semi-final stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,971 ✭✭✭Benedict XVI


    I saw many people on social media saying they found the voting sequence at the end very stressful and quite a few feared that Israel had won

    How sad do you have to be to be stressing over who wins a song contest.

    I doubt the same people were stressed over the fact that hundreds of innocent people were murdered at a concert on October 7th 2023.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,478 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Indeed - scores of Israelis were killed by the IDF on that day when the Hannibal Directive was implemented multiple times.

    The sense of relief at Israel not winning ESC was palpable. Well done Bulgaria for a good song and for not fiddling the public vote. And not committing Genocide and War Crimes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,015 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    If the regime had responded in a restrained way to October 7th, there probably would have been a warm welcome for them at ESC 2024 and even much goodwill and sympathy from many quarters (and certainly no calls for their expulsion). Instead, they went on a nihilistic orgy of extreme violence and war crimes against civilians and by the time they showed up in Malmo, they were pretty much at pariah status and had used up all goodwill.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,971 ✭✭✭Benedict XVI


    If the regime responded in a restrained way you would have had many more October the 7th type attacks in the last few years.

    And when all of this quiets down you will have October 7th type attacks in years to come.

    I just can't understand why we are siding with the backward Islamists instead of the western looking Israelis.

    The irony being that Eurovision is such a LGBTQAI+ event and Israel is the only country in the region that is accepting of LGBTQAI+ folk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,148 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    2FM's have been dismal for the past 15 years, so I would concede it doesn't really matter, same goes for RTÉ2, with out sport it's audience share can be below 4%, while most programmes are getting less than 40,000 viewers.

    However, and I am no defender of RTÉ many on here will vouch for me on that, Radio 1's audience while down didn't disappear to Newstalk their main rival, seem to have head either to Today FM or Local Radio.

    Yes, I agree, potential time for RTÉ to exit the competition for good. You have to wonder how long the UK can stay in the competition?

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,478 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    I just can't understand why we are siding with the backward Islamists instead of the western looking Israelis.

    The irony being that Eurovision is such a LGBTQAI+ event and Israel is the only country in the region that is accepting of LGBTQAI+ folk.

    I don't recall any western countries committing genocide recently so no idea where you think Israel are taking their lead from. Same for committing War Crimes though you have a point if they are trying to emulate the US by bombing schools and killing children.

    As for LGBT rights, you're correct if you're talking about Tel Aviv but once you get into the sticks, you'd be better quietly hiding that rainbow scarf.

    As regards commitment to ESC ideals, Israel is about as far from them as you can get.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,204 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    Had to watch this again, so good…

    The way Dara and her dancers have to scramble to recreate the staging on the fly in the green room.

    And less of that potty mouth, JJ!



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