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Here we go again. Hantavirus

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,678 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Aren't there frequently hantavirus outbreaks? It's just normally not rich westerners that have gone birdwatching at a landfill.

    Given what we know, it seems unlikely that this will develop into a pandemic.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,704 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    So, you're telling me that you want a Hantavirus forum now?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Pablo Escobar


    This is not going to be a pandemic if that’s the angle here. At worst we may end up with warnings and with a chance of minor restrictions but the R0 (as we should be aware of at this stage) isn’t anywhere near where it needs to be to cause huge problems.

    Obviously this is a lethal virus if contracted but doesn’t have the properties to be a repeat of Covid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,788 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Tony Hoolohan isn't in the Department of Health anymore so at least needless lockdowns won't be an issue



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,001 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    Nah, this is like the Monkey Pox last year, not infectious enough to be a worldwide issue. Was reading that its R number is between 1 and 2 and is not infectious unless you are displaying symptoms unlike Covid with was/is, so far easier to isolate infectious cases People think every new thing is Covid again, PTSD'esque



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,139 ✭✭✭adaminho


    Between 10,000 to 100,000 cases a year. We'll be grand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,936 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Much ado about nothing. The tabloid press are obsessed by viruses these days. Non story.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,527 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    Population of the world is approx 7BN. At the mo we have a boat with 130 people or so out at sea and the situation being well managed, not all infected, if any right now. Incubation period is 6 weeks, so if they are qurantined properly for that time in the Canaries, all should be OK. They are tracking down the people who left the boat, got on flights over last few weeks. This will get sorted.

    As was mentioned - Between 10,000 to 100,000 hantavirus infections worldwide are thought to occur each year, most of them in Asia and Europe.

    So with respect to your "Here we go again" Title - thats like every other headline flooding social media, written to imply something - perhaps another pandemic like Coronavirus event - IT IS NOT and will not be another pandemic.

    "People can become infected if they breathe in virus particles from rodent urine, droppings or saliva, usually when contaminated dust is stirred up in enclosed spaces"

    The concern with this one is its the ANDES variant which can be spread human to human.

    Hantavirus fatality rate is far far higher than Coronavirus:

    • Coronavirus is around 3.4%
    • The case fatality rate for hantavirus pulmonary syndrome (HPS) is approximately 40% among those who develop severe disease.

    With such a high case fatality rate - this is why haemoragic viruses ( like hantavirus and ebola ) dont spread too far too fast. They kill the host too quickly before they can spread it too far.

    To an extent as mentioned, a non story only being blown up by the media using headlines crafted to cause hysteria to gain there own clicks. Give this a week or two and it will be chip paper .. my 2 cents!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,000 ✭✭✭celt262


    A €9 meal will keep it at bay.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Got my ivermectin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,024 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    will my out of date covid pcr tests detect it 😉

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,697 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Wearing **** masks while alone in the car and stopping children from playing in parks worked last time, I'm sure it will work again.

    Flatten the curve!



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    The black plague could reappear and I have to say I don't think I'd stick to any lockdowns again!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,930 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Remember folks, only two weeks to flatten the curve



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,776 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    This can fcuk right off.

    2026 is already busy with Ukraine, Iran, Trump and America sliding into chaos, housing problems and environmental issues. We aint got time for this.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,259 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    FFS. This wouldn't even make the news if it wasn't for covid. I'm looking forward to my €350 a week though when they shut the place down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,201 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Here we go where again? Certainly not a pandemic situation. Thread title is off the wall.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 417 ✭✭SpoonyMcSpoon


    Won’t someone please think of the pearl clutchers and lockdown lovers.

    Incidentally, what are the odds that the same week we have a story about a pandemic treaty agreement deadline being missed there might be the start of a new pandemic! What are the odds?!

    https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/may/05/talks-stall-on-who-pandemic-treaty-global-response-disease-outbreaks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭gral6


    We should follow zero hantavirus approach like Australia and NZ did. Lockdown hard, close airports , reintroduce mandatory hotel quarintine. Afraid , it might be too late now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,337 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    As was mentioned - Between 10,000 to 100,000 hantavirus infections worldwide are thought to occur each year, most of them in Asia and Europe.

    Just for clarity that is all strains, which there is about 30.

    This particular strain is the only one known to transmit human to human.

    And there has been a very small number of human to human cases recorded throughout history.

    There has been 8 already from this boat with 3 deaths.

    Whilst it's certainly not Covid, it also isn't a non story as cases and deaths will probably rise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    You tell us, but of course yo are just asking questions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 417 ✭✭SpoonyMcSpoon


    Not very likely at all.

    What is most likely is that certain parties aiming to put pressure on finalizing the pandemic agreement have launched a co-ordinated media campaign, using hantavirus as the reason to get it going. That’s all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    So that's the question you really meant to ask?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,527 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    "Just for clarity that is all strains, which there is about 30. This particular strain is the only one known to transmit human to human."

    Yip - mentioned that. But I also mentioned - yes, morbidly - the fatality % is very high with Hantavirus so it kills the host too quickly which ( vs covid ) does make it less efficient to spread as viruses go. i also hear it takes relatively long exposure to the infected person before another is infected, again, unlike covid?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 417 ✭✭SpoonyMcSpoon


    My question is how many people are really that thick to think hantavirus is a new pandemic or that there is a risk to thenselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,527 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    I think its a lived ( recent ) memory thing and hearing word VIRUS is as deep as most go, then panic. Also caused by the usual socail media and dodgy MSM spreading hysteria about this event



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,409 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    The term hantavirus is likely new to a lot of people. Just because you knew about it doesn't mean the average person did.

    I had never heard of it and still know very little about it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,337 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    i also hear it takes relatively long exposure to the infected person before another is infected, again, unlike covid?

    They don't actually know.

    The one robust case study they have would suggest it can be contracted in minimum time.

    It's one of the reasons there will be so much attention on this outbreak.

    They will want to learn all they can.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 417 ✭✭SpoonyMcSpoon


    I think it’s more about why we saw the exact same attention across major media outlets globally this particular week of all weeks and when you look at the story around the PABS agreement deadline being missed this week, right before hantavirus becomes a thing, it makes a lot more sense.

    The buzz phrases used are starting to catch-on in online boards and social media “human to human transmission”, “high fatality rate”, “isolation” etc. The same as with covid while posters above explain how this is completely unlike covid, but this message is starting to get lost already in the excessive attention.



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