Are fuel prices pushing you towards an EV?

he made a statement that we have offshore farms of west coast with 50% capacity factor

That’s a lie

Take that back. I never said Ireland has offshore farms of west coast. Only that the capacity factor there is 50-55% for very big turbines. We should already have those farms though, far cheaper per kWh than any other form of generation. That would have been the Apple money well spent

And when would those nuclear plants be ready? And on time and within budget? 😂 This is Ireland…

Nuclear would have been great half a century ago. Not so much now, the horse has bolted.

Batteries costing hundreds of billions. My arse. You are making these figures up as you post

It's the usual people selectively picking facts to suit an entrenched bias.

Your costs for electricity are the result of your investment in your personal infrastructure to take advantage of low cost plans.

Someone might live in an apartment and not be able to do that.

I do think the future is for as many people as possible to use personal renewables to offset energy costs. It's where the win is with EVs.

It's not a return to fossil fuels.

I wonder how this thread will change once electricity prices prices rise further.

I'm old enough to remember 2022 when Diesel and Petrol prices skyrocketed and the govt reacted overnight to drop the duty on those fuels. At the same time my home electricity unit rate went from 21c to 38c and the ecars unit rate went from 28c to 68c. Regardless of what way you look at it the price of driving an EV doubled in a short space of time. You might recall the govt did f**k all about it as well

Going back to the original question… I have already moved to E.V. in 2021, for environmental reasons mainly. I'm now on my second, and we have a second, smaller EV for my wife, and for city driving.

I charge up both or either as required every Saturday (at €0 with E.I.). The unit rate for the other six days is a bit higher but nothing like enough to offset the free fueling. We have solar panels which reduce the impact of the higher rate during the week (from April to October roughly), and everything on Saturday (8 am to 11 pm) is at €0 rate (not just fuelling).

Both cars are great to drive and fuelling is effectively free. Best financial decision of recent years.

So if the increasing price of oil and petrol is not getting you thinking about moving to EV, then maybe think again…

So, you're without your car for some or all of every Saturday?

Absolutely. Well I have two available so it's never exactly a problem. I've never yet had a situation where I couldn't get the car(s) charged comfortably between 8 am and 11 pm.

Of course, everyone's use and driving profile is different, so everyone has to work out the best option for themselves…

Yes I am currently on a day/night rate so I get 9 hours a night for less than 15c which I find far more beneficial than the 3-4 hour EV hours. Regardless I can see a situation where all those prices could double in the next few weeks and our government will just shrug their shoulders

I think the main benefit of ICE lawnmowers was being able to cut the grass without being near a plug. Battery operated lawnmowers are now a thing so I can see them dying out very nicely

Energy credits are of little to no use to an EV as they all get swallowed up by the household usage and the VAT cut was from 13% to 9% which is a pittance in the grander scheme of things. They've cut over 30c off the price of a liter of diesel we will be lucky to get 3c