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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭eastie17


    Pete Hegseth just prayed over the Iran war. He used the fake Bible verse from Pulp Fiction.

    At the Pentagon's monthly worship service yesterday, the Secretary of Defense stood up, told military leaders what they hear in worship should "inform" their war decisions, and then read a prayer calling for "great vengeance and furious anger" on Iran. He said the prayer was called "CSAR 2517," standing for Combat Search And Rescue, and was based on Ezekiel 25:17.

    It wasn't.

    It was from Pulp Fiction. Specifically, it was the speech Samuel L. Jackson's character recites before executing an unarmed man. Tarantino wrote those lines himself.

    They are not in any Bible. They are in a Quentin Tarantino movie. The actual Ezekiel 25:17 has one sentence. The rest, including "the path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men," was invented for a 1994 film about hit men eating hamburgers.

    "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."

    The Secretary of War read a fictional hit man's execution speech to bless an actual war.

    And then he said this: "Fifteen minutes ago I was talking about blockades with Admiral Cooper, and now we're going to study the Lord's word. May what we talk about, how we worship today, inform the remainder of our day and the remainder of our week."

    The man coordinating a naval blockade and potential strikes on Iran is citing Bible verses that don't exist. From a movie. To bless a war that has killed more than a thousand people and threatens to starve millions more.

    Pope Leo responded to Hegseth's earlier violent prayers on Palm Sunday. The Pope quoted actual scripture, Isaiah 1:15: "Even though you make many prayers, I will not listen. Your hands are full of blood." Archbishop Reinhard Marx of Munich called Hegseth's sermons "shameless blasphemy."

    This is the man in charge of American war.machine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,452 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    Was wondering where all the pulp fiction bible memes appeared from on the internet



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 5,586 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rawr


    Also consider that, even if one were a fan of the Pulp Fiction quote and wanted to use it in a speech, the amount of care needed to prepare for it could have amounted to a Google search along the lines of «What Bible verse is the Pulp Fiction quote from?»

    Thereafter he would have learned that it was written for the movie, and then he’d have a choice between referencing the quote to the movie or digging for something similar in the actual bible.

    But of course, like most MAGA-heads and the Orange Lummox himself, they only flex their «Christian» credentials to appeal to the extreme Evangelical headbangers who’ll vote for anyone who support their views. I’m doubting Hegseth has ever really open a bible all that much.

    As an aside, looking forward to the Gulf of America™ , Trump™ Kennedy Center and the Department of War™ all getting getting their stupid renames reversed when Donnie and the GOP are out,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,643 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    You can be sure the whole 'I got this from a military unit, it's called the … prayer' was a complete lie, too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭W123-80's


    RE; The Pulp Fiction prayer.

    I've been convinced for a while, but this confirms without doubt for me that the MAGA administration are simply trolling the entire planet.

    There is no way Hegseth or whoever advises him didn't know this 'prayer' was from a movie. They remind me of Eton style posh boys a la Boris Johnson, just taking the piss with entitled and ignorant 'in' jokes because they feel completely untouchable.

    Same with Trumps social media posts. I think they are carefully crafted by someone else, not actually by Trump. I think the sheer ludicrous nature of them is part of the create chaos plan.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,704 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    At the Pentagon's monthly worship service yesterday

    Point of order: the "yesterday" referred to was Wednesday - the day before the day before yesterday, and we had a good discussion about it at the time. Poster has just copied-and-pasted an already out-of-date news article (without so much as a credit. Since then, the war has been ended (Gospel according to Trump) and the Strait of Hormuz-Iran is wide open; no further prayers necessary.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,689 ✭✭✭Economics101


    Sorry, just do a quick search and you will find loads of almost daily Youtube postings by the likes of Gavin Newsom, Adam Schiff, Sheldon Whitehouse, Chris Murphy and many others, who expose the administration's lies, corruption and incompetence. The Mainstream news networks do not take up the leads offered by these politicians nearly enough, which is why you may seem to think that politicians are not standing up to Trump.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭Raysin




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    That has to be a record even for CFTump



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,731 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Lol, who could have predicted that. At least they got their stock manipulation in again .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    Leo should ask the 70m Catholics in USA to examine their consciences and think deeply about who they vote for in the upcoming mid-terms.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 484 ✭✭saffron22


    Absolutely. All its ever been about



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,562 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Ah well, SNAFU on Persian Gulf. Iran has opened its airspace but it have closed the Straits again holding the U.S responsible as it had not lifted the U.S navy blockade after a dozen or so tankers passed through the strait. Nothing yet on the movement of the tankers after they had got past the straits to open international waters where the U.S navy is operating its "stop, search and - maybe - seize ships" operations.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 432 ✭✭somenergy


    Iran has control of the straits now and will not give it up till the US completely surrenders and leaves the region

    Every world leader needs to say the truth out loud trump is a failure get rid of him immediately



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,201 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭threeball




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,689 ✭✭✭Economics101


    It seems that Youtube has banned videos from the Iranian group, Explosive Media, which is responsible for all this Lego-themed trolling of Trump, Hegseth, etc. So much for First Amendment rights. This is a useful report on the issue:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Kinda mad how Iran is this strict Islamic state when it looks like the US are morphing into a fundemantalist Christian cesspool by the day



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,979 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    The MAGA 'religion' is a bizarre phenomenon : pro-violence, pro-guns, pro-war, celebrates hate, deeply racist but claims to be drawing its justification from the Bible (specifically the Old Testament).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭tarvis


    Will someone please confiscate this man child’s phone. His texting is interfering bigly with grown up negotiations - and will cost lives.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,320 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    I've had a bit of craic pointing out that disagreement with the Pope and deciding that Leo "Is not my Pope!", makes them Schismatics and no longer Catholic.
    I know I mentioned earlier that I'm irreligious, but that doesn't mean I don't have a decent grasp of how my former religion works.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,464 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭Maxface


    The idiot doesn't realise this with his isolationalist policies. The more they pull and push away from the world, the more the world realises they don't need them. The end is a new world order, most likely with China and Europe as leaders, and the USA as a bankrupt nation. Think things are bad there now, wait until they realise they have nothing to offer the world, and the World wants nothing from them. I can see a time where it breaks apart, States become independent and global. Same as the UK, if they elect Farage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,704 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    Sooooo much of American evangelical churchiness makes constant reference to the Old Testament. As a group, they seem to have entirely missed the point that Jesus (surname Christ, as in follower of, as in Christian, d'you know like) was sent to give the pre-Christians a good kick up the hole for putting too much faith in dodgy translations and interpretations of those very same texts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,921 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Well, in fairness, they should keep Dept. of War because America's war machine has absolutely fuck all to do with "defense".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭tarvis


    Latest in the Strait- Iranian gunboats shooting at shipping. The strait is open says Trump but no one is listening to him.

    In southern Lebanon the Israelis are still killing people- Stop - enough is enough says Trump - no one is listening


    No one is listening anymore. His war has gone out of control. His country is reduced to pariah status and he has now it seems fallen out with his partner pariah.

    I fear for what happens next but the great deal maker is as per usual, miles away from the mayhem he and his cronies have created.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,249 ✭✭✭Widdensushi




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