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Fuel protest about prices

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,826 ✭✭✭touts


    Yes. "The law will be upheld". The guards are going in now to open up the supply of fuel. Whitegate first and it sounds like Galway and Foynes will also be forceably opened up this afternoon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭Arseboxing


    Ah yeah it's shocking how many people don't know 2+2 = 1,783.

    It'd be a right hoot if some of these far right demonstrators did the numbers game on Countdown.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,459 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Listening to Newstalk and Andrea Gilligan said she put up a poll on her Instagram story. It's up about 25 mins and 73% say they 100% support the protesters.

    I'm sure the same poster will be around shortly to tell me this means nothing and in reality less than 1% support them. Boards is the real bubble IMO.

    Some good suggestions from callers. They've no problem with shutting the country down for a day but they suggested redirecting all efforts towards the dail and US embassy etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Coolcormack1979


    mehole flailing on radio one just now.he’s suddenly concerned doesn’t give a dam



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,605 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    There is absolutely huge support for this, it is nonsense to suggest otherwise. Whether that remains the case will depend on how long it goes on, if it effects schools on Monday public opinion will sway quite a bit.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭dmakc


    They are when it comes to fuel dependency. To an IT worker in a Dublin apartment leading the salary scale, fuel pump cost is an afterthought.

    I'm talking very simple mathematics and false equivalancies. Ireland is high in terms of skew compared to most European countries, to the point where plotting average (which itself is not preferred by statisticians) salary to fuel prices is completely insincere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭dmakc


    I'm literally referring to you in the inept. You actually don't see where you're wrong which is quite funny



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,862 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    The guards are going in now to open up the supply of fuel. Whitegate first and it sounds like Galway and Foynes will also be forceably opened up this afternoon.

    Who stated this, link?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,768 ✭✭✭Fann Linn




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭hero25


    Am not a farmer, but do live in rural Ireland and the groups in the protests are the lifeblood of every rural parish. The money they generate and circulate keeps rural Ireland alive. Large, urban centres by-and-large are insulated from the massive fuel increases that contractors and hauliers have had to endure. There are no Luas, Train, Bus, dart price increases. If Dublin is unaffected by an issue, it tends to be ignored. We all know of the massive flooding, power outrages and other instances that occur outside Dublin but dont get the headlines, yet when something happens in Dublin, it' makes media headlines for a week. I hope the protestors stick to their guns and make the Government realise there is life outside the Pale.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,510 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Again, do these other countries have farmers and hauliers? Are these farmers and hauliers paying higher fuel costs than ours?

    It's a simple question. It's irrelevant what anybody else earns.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    They aren't doing anything.

    The protesters are moving and letting fuel out for emergency services. They are letting chemicals for water leave and any other critical goods. Then pulling back in.

    The are letting emergency vehicles through on roads and have been confirmed by the emergency services themselves.

    The government have the media spinning their shite over and over when there's clear video evidence showing they are doing this. The usual bullshit trying to turn the public against them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭Arseboxing


    I'm not too worried at the likes of you calling me "inept". I'd be disappointed if you didn't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 565 ✭✭✭thamus doku


    Hypocrisy. And also childish and unfounded gibberish.
    Just thank them and move on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Sam Quentin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭Arseboxing


    Huge support for it among the simpleton c*nt community alright.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 GippyGup


    Taoiseach on Radio 1 said Ireland is now at risk of having an oil supply crisis because fuel depots at ports are backed up and can’t take fresh deliveries from tankers at sea



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,245 ✭✭✭Field east


    This protest/strike is 100% UNPRECEDENTED . Why?
    (1) It is not a lightening strike. There is a forewarning to such. Discussions might break down. The issue might be under discussion for a few weeks, etc, etc,cert . But this protest/ strike idea was floated ONLY a day or two before it ‘took off’

    (2) Normally when companies/farmers find their profits are ‘squeezed’ because of rising costs they increase prices why was this not attempted first. And since all hauliers/ farmers are affected by the fuel cost increase they would all be increase prices why was at the same time

    (3) why did the hauliers SKIP STEP ONE and go STRAIGHT for their protest/strike instead of using their unions first to negotiate

    (4) The cause of the protest was 100% existential ie the closure of the Straits of Hormuz and other ‘actions’ around it. Was that not taken into consideration by the protesters

    (5) The fuel price rise only went up within the past week or two and it is very fluid in the sence that it could come significantly down if not increase further. It all depends on what Trump , mainly , does. Could the Hauliers, et, al. Not wait , for a few more weeks at least, until the picture becomes a bit more clear.

    (6) The overall effect of the protest is all invasive. Is there any aspect of Irish society, Irish business that is not significantly affected? Even the bank strike , which lasted for a few months, pails into significance as we found ways to work around it and to carry on

    (7) why did the hauliers/farmers just not WITHDRAW their services and leave their rolling stock vin their garages or wherever. They could rest more , go off and enjoy a few weeks holidays, save on even more fuel, etc,etc.

    There is evidence that some hauliers- and probably all farmers because of the nature of their business- had a ‘leg in both camps’ ie had some trucks continuing on in making deliveries while ‘letting on’ that they are going bankrupt and therefor have their rolling stock at the ‘ baracades’



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭bored65


    ”Boards is the real bubble”

    Oh yeh the self hating far leftie brigade think the population deserves to pay extortionate taxes to fix the climate or something, we even had one mention of Palestine too to tick that box

    Way out of touch with the common man

    Im surprised no one yet proposed solar panels as solution to the crisis (looks out the window at the doom and gloom rain) or more wind mills



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,810 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Shows the calibre of person listening to that programme.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,706 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Lol, you know how those polls are manipulated, sure look at the amount of ones the Irish public manipulated over the years.

    Those lads are walking around with walkie talkies doing **** all coordinating these type of things, you see it at every protest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,416 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    More money is spent on people in rural Ireland than people in Dublin cork and limerick. Our property taxes prop up county councils in other counties. Also farmers get loads of grants and subsidies. Try living in Dublin nowadays with the crazy rent and prices for everything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭dmakc


    See Seymour skinner the kids who are wrong gif



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,510 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Until I see a poll from the likes of Cantor Fitzgerald or RedC, then they're all BS straw polls.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭Arseboxing


    These idiots literally want Government by Facebook poll.

    But they don't count actual General Elections as legitimate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 356 ✭✭somenergy


    Am i reading it right, ireland are stopping oil coming into the country blocking ports of entry is that not shooting urself in the foot

    yes there be reduced duty but a protest needs another approach i go back there next i have seen another continent really badly effected but the people say we just want whatever the price



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,510 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,605 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    My personal opinion I support the core of the protest but its gone on long enough and now you have the far right grifters latching onto to push their own agendas as they always do.

    The major problem I have is enough wasn't done weeks ago, the Dail was in recess and they just threw out a piecemeal package and said we'll come back to it in a couple of weeks. You can not expect critical parts of the economy to shoulder fuel going up so much overnight, farmers and hauliers are working on razor thin margins and majority are locked into fixed contracts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭I see sheep


    Oh dear. Someone who thinks they know what irony means but doesn't have a clue.

    "a terrible war imposed by the provisional IRA"

    Our West Brit Taoiseach



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,787 ✭✭✭amandstu


    "He added that "someone else" could buy the tanker off the coast of Galway Port if it does not land"(from RTE)

    Is that likely?Would that affect further deliveries from ships down the road in the middle of this Iran war/blockage?

    Seems like it could be very ,very high stakes if those fuel ships gave Ireland a wide berth.



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