Fuel Protest

The usual guff that’s exacerbated by social media bubbles. You speak to a few people and see something trending on Twitter and all of a sudden you’re convinced that millions of people agree with you.

The protestors themselves think similar, and have said “the people of Ireland have asked us to do this”. They have in their hole.

What price per litre would you be happy with? If we’re all being represented then surely we know.

Yes, EV household here too & fully agree with what you’re saying re government. Hard to see a solution that’ll please everyone. Or maybe anyone.

What's difference between these agitators/protestors and terrorists? Is it now a case that when a group of people are not happy with something that they can hold a country and its people to ransom? Shut down roads, block people from freedom of movement, inflict intentional financial damage on an economy? I am as frustrated as the next guy as regards the rising cost of fuel, but for a country and its people to allow this type of reaction is very very dangerous

Couldn't do it next week because they've to drop the kids to school

They should blockade Doonbeg, leave massive tracks through Drumpf's nice golf course. He is the cause of this, himself and that other worst US president Benny Nettenyahoo.

Strange how they never thought of that.

You just need to look at the names and agendas of the people getting involved now to see where its going. This needs to be nipped in the bud as soon as possible.

The genuine farmers, hauliers and contractors deserve to be heard but the rest of these unhinged plonkers need to be put back in their box.

A certain social media bastion of common sense from Galway has set up a gofundme page to keep morale high. The same bastion of decency supported ICE murderering US Citizens on US streets for exercising their right to protest. He couldn't give two sheep's shite for anyone except lining his own pockets on the back of spreading hate online which is poisoning our communities. Obviously funded by US Christian Nationalist groups. Amazing patriot.

That other absolute balloon in Mayo who loves creamy pints saying the Irish Government have lost if they have to engage the Army on its citizens, again this insidious twit was gleefully supporting ICE when they shot US citizens protesting on the street. A massive Trump supporter for years who is now back pedalling on that position more recently. A grifter, nothing more.

C Duffy is a nasty piece of work. A racist, a homophobe, a bigot and a bully. Nothing more. Sat in his tractor a few months ago sneering at The Palistinian Flotilla protest. He hasn't the capacity to connect the dots of allowing a genocidal state like Israel murder kids and live stream it worldwide and do nothing about it with the cost of fuel issues we are experiencing today. He was on James Conway's podcast recently. They are well matched.

Conway himself is protesting with a gallows in his 8x4 trailer. He very obviously has massive anger issues and seems to think we are hours away from some sort of violent coup in the country.

Throw in Hobbs, Pepper and a sprinkling of ding bat citizen journalists and you have the perfect storm for a hate filled and ignorant protest that serves no one or nothing except to deepen the already growing polarisation in our society.

Trump, Stephen Miller, Steve Bannon, JD Vance, Tommy Robinson etc etc are heroes to most of these guys mentioned above. They all thrive of hate and chaos.

This needs to be talked about more openly.

Had a proper belly laugh listening to Morning Ireland when Andrew Louth reported the protest leaders were meeting about getting clarity of their meeting with government.

Thick gobshites. Incredible stuff.

Honest question to your suggestion - do you think that gets Trumps attention? Does it get MM's attention? Does it get Israel's attention?

When you go down the route of societal collapse it becomes terrifying pretty quickly. Listened to a guy called Nate Hagens a few years back talk about the energy blindness we have towards modern civilization. For every person on the planet, there is an equivalent 100 energy slaves doing all the heavy lifting for us. Everything we do requires 100 silent workers performing daily tasks which we ultimately take for granted. The importance of energy is not factored into mainstream economics (productivity being a factor of both labour and capital) and we don't see the role that energy actually plays in our day to day lives. When you look at modern life though the energy lens, it becomes pretty scary how fragile the whole system is.

So you have no answer to my question then.

Farmers already have access to subsidies on green diesel and carbon tax. Hauliers have a rebate of 12c/l of diesel for the first six months of this year - a saving of around €8000 per truck.

The thing is, I'd doubt any of the chancers involved here are accessing those rebates and subsidies. Why might that be, I wonder?

My question isn't ignoring the issue.

Why aren't these farmers and hauliers claiming the very generous rebates available to them?

There is only one reason for this, and I'm sure you're smart enough to figure it out.

Come the next election, the people can have their say. If these protests really have the support of the majority, then FFG should get a right hiding and be kicked out of government.

Time will tell.

You'd sincerely wonder when you see the lack of frugality on display elsewhere. It's been called out consistently for years.

Subsidies help consumer in terms of pricing together with compensating farmer for EU regulation my friend. Nobody is buying a holiday home from them, and name me an industry without your pet word while you're at it. Otherwise, if you're as clueless as you seem to be, perhaps sit this one out.