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Fuel Protest

  • 09-04-2026 08:17AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,734 ✭✭✭


    I'm surprised no thread started yet. What are people's opinions on this, especially now the defence forces may intervene to unblock the refineries?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭jacool


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    Pick one



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 438 ✭✭holliehobbie


    It’s getting ridiculous now. My daughter is a student nurse and she was nearly late for work due to no buses running up O’Connell Street at 7am yesterday morning! That’s one example of the kind of hard working people these fellas are disrupting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,734 ✭✭✭francois


    obviously on this board, no need to be a smart-arse



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭✭George White


    On the one hand I can understand why Harris thinks its despicable, especially with the likes of Philip Dwyer, Gavin Pepper and Aontu cashing in, and some of the more far-right farmers attacking Paul Murphy for joining in on their protest, but while it doesn't surprise me that Simon Harris sees ALL THESE protestors as a menace to society, it shows how utterly detached he is from his constituency. Wicklow is renowned and revered for its plantmen. I come from a lineage of plantmen and farmers, and I know how many of them are in Wicklow-Wicklow (and indeed Wicklow-Wexford). If he actually cared about his constituency, he would talk to those truckers and farmers, but he won't, cos he doesn't understand Wicklow.

    Calling it a 'sinister and despicable attack on the economy and society' shows how he can't seem to tell the decent hard-working plantmen who make a surprisingly large percentage of Wicklow's male population to

    Although it is funny to see Jim O'Callaghan upsetting the people most likely to make Jim O'Callaghan win an election.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭jacool


    I thought that you were genuinely unaware that there were threads out there. Didn't mean to upset.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,851 ✭✭✭plodder


    There was an interview with a Human Rights professor at NUIG yesterday about the rights and wrongs of these protests (on RTE Drivetime)

    I thought this will be interesting and will give us some kind of 'moral framework' around these protests.

    I was disappointed. He was specifically asked "is there a hierarchy of rights" here? But, the answer was exactly what I'd expect to hear from the protesters themselves. ie. "we don't like doing this" but "protests have to cause disruption".

    There was zero engagement with the question of whether the amount of disruption was justified. He then compared with Gaza protests, and Shell 2 Sea etc, completely missing the rather more limited effect of disruption caused by those protests. Extraordinary stuff. The message seemed to be "might makes right". They "become a problem for the government" etc. Though he did in the end, concede that a more forceful intervention from the state is likely in cases like this.

    https://www.rte.ie/radio/radio1/clips/22599870/

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,058 ✭✭✭donaghs


    Is it just me? But I haven't heard any solutions from these protesters. I mean, the Irish government can't open the Straits of Hormuz, or do anything else to lower global oil prices.

    Further cuts on fuel taxes would be one solution. But I've haven't heard anything about this as part of the protest. Just seeing picture of tractors blocking roads, and long traffic jams.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 438 ✭✭holliehobbie


    Matthew’s buses (private bus service and cheaper than bus eireann) and more reliable are now cancelling services from Dundalk and Bettystown to Dublin due to the protests!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,663 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Not sure how this is going to play out. But the stories about deploying the army against unarmed protesters is worrying and will escalate things.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,412 ✭✭✭ebbsy




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭hold my beer


    The Guards will arrest them if they don't disperse. The army will help move the vehicles. That would be my guess on how it plays out



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,671 ✭✭✭davetherave


    You don't think it will just be Transport Corps out with wreckers/recovery/low-loaders playing the part of a tow company?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,663 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    If that's the extent of action. Im sure someone has worked out the legality of defence force personnel and private property. Under no circumstances should they be involved with detention or arrest

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,429 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Im sure there will be uproar in the media about this. Fascist dictator Government sending in the troops to stop Peaceful Protesters.

    Where have we heard that before eh ?

    Except in this case the protesters are actually peaceful and not setting cities on fire, looting, robbing and creating mayhem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,408 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    What is this about? How do they think clogging up Dublin's city centre will alleviate price surges that are well outside Ireland's control?

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭GerardKeating




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,782 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Defense forces would not have powers of arrest, search and seizure, detention etc as these are constitutionally limited to the AGS.

    One would question the appearance of state armed military combatants at a protest and wonder were we in the Soviet Union or East Germany. It's not a good look. I'm quite middle of the road, I do not like that we have the highest fuel prices in europe, comfortably 30-50cpl more than spain right now. I'm not out protesting because I have a job. However, if the state sends the army in I'd be looking strongly at joining the protests. Soldiers vs freedom to protest is not anything or any part of any government I'd support.

    I'm a lifetime FF and FG voter, home owner in rural ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,734 ✭✭✭francois


    I doubt the defence forces will be armed, they'll just use their heavy lifting equipment to remove the trucks blocking the terminals.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,663 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Think that auld BSG, Admiral Adama quote is relevant:

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    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,429 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,851 ✭✭✭plodder


    Right. I don't think they are going to start shooting people like ICE. They won't be armed. What would worry me more is that they aren't even able to do the above.

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,460 ✭✭✭Genghis


    The right to protest is important, and there is a genuine grievance, no doubt.

    What's different here is the lack of any restraint by the protesters.

    Traditionally disputes would be properly organized, including with advance notice, they would be controlled- for instance, they might cause mass disruption for one day, then pause and say, it will be two days next week, and pause, and then do 3 days the week after etc. There would be a legitimate union or association with appointed leaders in situ, who have channels into government and credibility to negotiate. There would also be a level of PR, call it reading the room, call it knowing when to press and when to relax in order to achieve an outcome while building support across the public.

    Instead it's wildcat action organised on social media with no control, strategy or exit point.

    This will probably escalate and only end after some personal tragedy arising from its impact means it can no longer continue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 447 ✭✭Soc_Alt


    The protestors logic doesnt make any sense in blocking the roads etc.

    There are people missing medial appoints and surgeries.

    There are health care workers not getting to work.

    There are business owners not able to open businesses on time.

    There are contractor who dont get paid unless they are at work.

    There are parents not able to pick up kids from creches on time.

    There are people missing flights.

    There are people who need fuel for transport and heating not able to get it.

    These protesters should stay at home and refuse to work.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭✭George White


    The thing is they're now overwhelmed by the 'Free Tommeh' types. Hence you have Cllr Tom McDonnell addressing the fuel protest crowd in Dublin with calls to forget about Palestine/Israel, blaming IPAS centres and 'Africans'.

    Post by @irlagainstfascism.bsky.social — Bluesky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,911 ✭✭✭McFly85


    We don’t need this to turn into some sort of American culture war rubbish. The army will be called in to move the vehicles, nothing more. We’ve had to use the army to take people’s rubbish in the past.

    The protest itself is nonsense, we know why fuel do so high and it’s nothing to do with the Irish government.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    If you compared fuel prices in January/February with prices today and you include the reductions in levies that the government announced recently - would the government still be profiting from increased taxes?

    I get that there’s no control over the barrel price but MM this morning said that the levies pay for all other services, etc but if the war didn’t happen then the cost would be similar to Jan/Feb and the budget for other services would have remained the same.

    If there is an increase in the tax profits then reduce it now! Doesn’t affect what they planned to do with the tax take.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭✭George White


    It's about our outrageous tax, but now they're using it as a wedge issue to funnel their own prejudices.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I am surprised Irish people can actually protest. I thought we were complete sheep. I'd like to see Excuse duties reduced considerably more. Diesel prices insane.

    I suppose I admire the protesters but I would like to see it resolved soon. The FFG leaders are as slow as usual to react. The protesters don't seem to have a main spokesperson.

    The army should not be involved. Stupid move.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭mackerski




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    What gets me about these protests is the narrative that anyone living in the greater Dublin area is some kind of elite and everyone in rural Ireland is a hard done by salt of the earth type, so it's okay to disrupt everyone who works in Dublin city centre.

    I don't understand it. Most people living in the greater Dublin area have much higher mortgage/rent costs than rural people and live in smaller houses with less land. There are loads of Mc mansions in the country that dwarf houses in the suburbs. We will be affected by inflation arising from this just as much as rural people.

    I support supports for certain industries at this time but the way the protestors are going about it and the poor mouth narrative that everyone else is some privileged elite is rubbing me the wrong way.

    “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


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