Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

rogber · 08-04-2026 01:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124372389#Comment_124372389

The one European leader with an ounce of courage to speak the truth (maybe Macron a bit too)

Paulzx · 08-04-2026 01:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124372469#Comment_124372469

There are virtually no commonalities between each sides "plan" so there is no chance of a "deal" unless one side backs down. The Iranians have shown they have no appetite to bow to Trump. The only side that has backed down so far is the US

Trump said today that they had achieved "total and complete victory." Absolute horseshit. The only indication of a total and complete victory would be an unconditional surrender by one side.

The Yanks are closer to surrender than the Iranians at the moment. They are an embarrassment

eightieschewbaccy · 08-04-2026 02:00PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124372433#Comment_124372433

Given the fact there was an existing deal that he tore up and now Iran is effectively holding the strait hostage, no deal is gonna come out better than the Obama one at the end of this. I'm sure you'll try to sell any outcome as highly successful.

But long term, the economic turmoil Trump has created is a disaster. Similar to presidency number 1, he's hit the US global reputation and this time to a far greater degree. Who knew a war with absolutely no strategy behind it would backfire.

For Forks Sake · 08-04-2026 02:00PM

State of that muppet

https://twitter.com/i/status/2041857312160100439

bucketybuck · 08-04-2026 02:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124372360#Comment_124372360

Hegseths comments were very noticible today, highlighting very clearly that it was a "military" victory and that they achieved all their military aims.

Very much distancing himself from the "Why" and making it known that his job was never more than the "how".

I doubt it will work for him.

yagan · 08-04-2026 02:16PM

Iran has zero reason to parlay, Trump's minds changes with each reaction he hears.

Ships will transit the strait on irans terms for now and the foreseeable.

Tazz T · 08-04-2026 02:19PM

Meanwhile Israel turns its resources towards its new genocide in Lebanon. Hospitals overwhelmed by war crimes today including an attack on a funeral. Not a squeak out of the US or the UK.

Cluedo Monopoly · 08-04-2026 02:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124372518#Comment_124372518

By using Iran's 10 point plan as the basis, the USA are going into negotiations with their tails between their legs. Hegseth is talking tough but he knows that Trump has no appetite to extend the war. It is truly embarrassing what the USA have done. Their credibility and moral authority are damaged for decades. It's staggering how badly they have come out of this. Putin and Xi cannot wipe the smile off their respective faces.

goldsparkle · 08-04-2026 02:32PM

DT is a f*cking lunatic. Why are the Americans so dim? Are they proud of him? Why are they not out on the street protesting and demanding for snap elections. Is that a thing there in America. Can they over throw their president?

briany · 08-04-2026 02:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124372610#Comment_124372610

Even if the sides can agree to a permanent cessation of hostilities, that natural gas field has still taken major damage, as has numerous oil processing and production sites, so we're still heading for a major shock in terms of energy prices which filters down to everything else.

The Iranian revolution has held together and they still have their uranium. The only possibly lasting achievement is the reduction of Iran's ability to antagonise Israel, and I'm sure even that's debateable.

charlie14 · 08-04-2026 02:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124372419#Comment_124372419

The U.S. haven`t done well in a mountainous country either and Iran is as mountainous as Afghanistan and 2.5 times larger and I doubt in fighting an invading ground force Iran would run out of resource before inflicting a lot of casualties.

The regime in Iran may only have had the support of 20% to 30% before Israel and the U.S. threatened to bomb them back to the stone age, but if you believe that other 70% to 80% would now welcome U.S. ground forces with open arms and bouquets of flowers you are sadly mistaken.

Even Trump, as dumb as he is, has learned that much with his latest Tuesday TACO climb-down, but not before he made the regime there even stronger than it was.

One Khamenie traded for a more radical Khamenie at a cost of billion. Not exactly big time winning for the orange moron now is it ?

Jelle1880 · 08-04-2026 02:43PM

The grift continues :D

https://twitter.com/CattardSlim/status/2041698279017345137

Stanley 1 · 08-04-2026 02:49PM

Trump Jr visits pro-Russian Balkan leader in controversial trip

"Supporters of the visit described it as a positive signal that Republika Srpska is moving out of international isolation, including pressure linked to US sanctions on Milorad Dodik".

"The trip was organized at the invitation of Igor Dodik, son of Milorad Dodik, the Bosnian Serb leader known for his pro-Russian stance".

Junior out on family business, how much money to lift sanctions on Dodik and can we have a free site, loan and permissions to put up a Trump Tower.

Would think it drives Junior crazy to watch Jared Kushner get the big jobs and his father's ear.

charlie14 · 08-04-2026 02:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124372429#Comment_124372429

In both they were in a war they were never going to win militarily.

It wasn`t just politicians that decided to pull the troops out. It was the groundswell of opposition to both of body counts and debilitating woundings that were being inflicted.

Trump, or anyone else, believing he could do the same with sending ground forces into Iran and achieve a different outcome is covered by the definition of insanity

briany · 08-04-2026 02:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124372698#Comment_124372698

Might wanna change the bedsheets, though.

Akrasia · 08-04-2026 02:57PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124372212#Comment_124372212

Ireland has actually been very good at building energy infrastructure. The ESB built pretty much all of our energy infrastructure until we went Neo Liberal in the 1990s and decided to do 'public private partnerships' instead.

The private sector has failed to harness our offshore wind because its much too big of a project for the private sector, it needs coordination between planning, ports, transport, transmission, ecological surveys etc

Frank Bullitt · 08-04-2026 03:16PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124371431#Comment_124371431

There is no logic in any of your posts, you can’t admit you’re the one saying Harris would have started this war (no chance of that), and you’ve brought Obama, Biden and even Hilary Clinton into this…all to defect from the total embarrassment of trumps actions.

And you’ll still claim you’re not a Trump fan. You are. It’s clear.

threeball · 08-04-2026 03:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124372757#Comment_124372757

Our wave energy is the great untapped resource. They're doing a pilot now off clare but it needs to ramp up hugely. Try to get a portion of that money resting in bank accounts invested in a national energy company that will ramp up our renewables to 150-200% of what the country needs, export excess electricity or use it to create hydrogen to run power plants when the wind is low/sun not shining. Every warehouse in the country should be covered in solar. People would get fixed price power and a dividend every year, plus a tax break for investing.

We have the capacity we just don't have the foresight or the will. Only interested in fixing potholes and moaning about €3 on a pension.

threeball · 08-04-2026 03:34PM

The main downsides to this ceasefire is it pushes the conclusion 2 weeks further away which does nothing but exacerbate the energy crisis and it allows Israel restock interceptors.

everlast75 · 08-04-2026 03:56PM

Anyone else think this blowhard is folding his pocket square so that it looks like he has medals for being in the army?

Sleepy · 08-04-2026 04:01PM

Have the EU sent a negotiating team to speak with the Iranians about opening Hormuz to EU flagged vessels? I know Macron did something along those lines last week.

Would be a good move to go over and offer a toll of, say €250k per EU ship allowed through. We'd isolate and weaken Trump whilst potentially insulating ourselves somewhat from the inevitable jihadist response to his barbarism.

ALSO: any Iranian or middle eastern refugees landing in the EU should be put straight on planes to JFK with a note saying "your mess, you clean it up".

For Forks Sake · 08-04-2026 04:03PM

Remind me again which country is the one being led by religious zealots

https://twitter.com/i/status/2041854460004339925

For Forks Sake · 08-04-2026 04:04PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124372747#Comment_124372747

Entire thing will need military grade fumigation

MrMusician18 · 08-04-2026 04:06PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124372858#Comment_124372858

no one has managed to tap wave energy successfully, economically and at scale. The sea is too corrosive, aggressive for this to be successful.

We need to focus less on these future technologies that solve everything, but on the technology we have now that can solve everything. To that end, every single home and business should have solar panels deployed. Balcony solar should be immediately be legal, with OMCs prohibited from objecting. We also need to strip away some of the protections around ecology that causes large scale renewable energy development to be delayed.

This is the fourth time we've been shown to be hopelessly dependent on a volatile region with volatile actors. It looks like we've been given something of a reprieve but lessons need to not just be learned, actions need rapid implementation.

Quin_Dub · 08-04-2026 04:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124372965#Comment_124372965

Every penny of "retro-fit" funding needs to be shifted to Solar/Wind investment , either commercial or residential. And then they need to add more to the pot.

Infinitely better ROI on fitting every house with solar/wind micro-gen abilities.

With the added bonus of reduced reliance on imported energy.

Paulzx · 08-04-2026 04:23PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124372965#Comment_124372965

I've always wondered what type of electricity would be generated if every home had solar panels. Maybe i'm simple but it has always seemed like an easy win to just equip every single home with solar and a storage battery.

I don't have solar and maybe i'm being niaive

Ash.J.Williams · 08-04-2026 04:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124372757#Comment_124372757

The esb and Siemens:)

threeball · 08-04-2026 04:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124372965#Comment_124372965

Corpower have a very viable technology with 10MW developed off Portugal. Its part of the overall package, with wind, solar and realistically a small nuclear plant. Its arguably the safest of all the technologies.

We will learn nothing, we never do. We'll trundle along till the next crisis, probably the collapse of the dollar and we'll be properly screwed.

MrMusician18 · 08-04-2026 04:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124373010#Comment_124373010

if every home had a small solar system, say 3.6kwp, it would reduce grid demand by about 20%. When we add in that the grid is about 50% renewable anyway, it would be a significant step to energy independence.

This doesn't account for the further electrification of heat and transport. Renewables need to get out of second gear here and into fifth.

fits · 08-04-2026 04:43PM

solar is part of solution yes but it only works for 8 hours a day 180 days a year. It’s not the best use of limited grid available.

Retrofitting absolutely is part of the solution. The energy savings and comfort of a well insulated house benefit us in energy security and in other ways too. Such as health and comfort.

Forgot which thread this was for a second. I’m sure this was posted already but this article in NYTyesterday was very interesting. Seems like it’s largely netanyahus doing. I guess we knew that already.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/07/us/politics/trump-iran-war.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share

Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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