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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,657 ✭✭✭harr


    A contractor I was training with last night who was at the protest yesterday has decided not to go today . The what’s app group he was in has now totally changed narrative . He knows himself if you lose the public support it’s finished.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,829 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    It takes 20-30 days for a ship to arrive here, then between pumping, storage and distribution depots probably another 2 weeks before it hits the pumps.
    That whole system is full of oil bought at high prices. The companies have to get that oil through and get their money back on it. So if the barrel of oil fell to $60 today, it could be 4-6 weeks before that cheap oil gets as far as the forecourt in Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 864 ✭✭✭Cushtie


    But what about the oil that was already here that they jacked up overnight when this thing kicked off. Should have taken 4- 6 weeks going by above but of course never works like that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,554 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    I'm aware it was a joke, I was only commenting on the fact the strait is reopening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,829 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Exactly, never works like that.
    companies take advantages to make money, never opt to loose it. Remember, it’s all about money not a public service.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭French Toast


    Protests now advertised to continue through today and Thursday. I suppose they’ll try and hold tough until the Dáil reopens?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Is that a good thing as it leaves the conduit to finding an agreement a bit trickier and likely to a better outcome potentially. The likes of rep orgs like the the IFA and the IRHA have been left outside of the room now and have no power to trash an agreement. This makes it harder for the government to deal and this a potentially better outcome for everyone's pockets to get this to stand down. Because it's so widespread now around the country, sending in the gardai is not going to work

    This is my take from the chaos by someone not on any protest



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,608 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Stock market oil price has dropped, the actual physicial market price is well past 140 dollars a barrel, theirs no correlation between the two at the minute, Isrealis are having a meltdown over the ceasefire , they'll proberly go solo on bombing raids to break the peace shortly enough



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,542 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    LUAS lines and bus lanes blocked in Dublin now. This is where it will really hurt. Front line workers, nurses, carers, retail and hospitality staff, tradespeople, delivery drivers, shift workers and emergency services.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,904 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Limerick is a disaster this morning. Tunnel is closed so all traffic must go through the city



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,731 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    There is an element to these protests that actively hates public transport. A fuel crisis protest should be making a point of facilitating public transport but when you have people like Independent Ireland involved you are gonna get this anti "green" streak.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,205 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    We must look at hiring these farmers for other protests 😂😂😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,936 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    They are targeting and blockading Bus Eireanns depot in Galway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,829 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Blocking trucks to the fuel depots, is that in the plan or just some local solo actions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,554 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,205 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    This exactly. If you or I were park with the smallest part of the car outside the space on double-yellow lines it's a ticket for illegal parking. These guys are parked on motorways, bus lanes, luas lines and not a single fine has been issued that I can see.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,731 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The same lads would be having a meltdown if Extention Rebellion were blocking depots and petrol stations.

    It's bizarre for a pro diesel haulage led protest to be blocking deliveries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 TeagascSaysNo


    You should get up of your hole and do some work for a change without sniping from the sidelines at hard-pressed working men protesting at over taxation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,200 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    I said from the beginning the leaders of this were thicko, Lads got on there high horse over me posting it. However I am being proved right by there behaviour. These clowns have not got a clue. Most are sending employees on a jolly.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,486 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    A guy on the radio this morning was saying oh it won't be immediate as its the crude oil price thats drop, has to be refined, we've lost 10% of refinerys due to this. Wasn't very positive! but as you say can go up so quickly.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,808 ✭✭✭Allinall




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,554 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    This is very funny, given we're talking about people who are quite literally not doing any work for the last few days and sitting on their ass in the city, blocking other people from going to work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,205 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    They would probably argue desperate times mean desperate measures and that blocking off the fuel depots might get the govt to listen to their demands of a subsidy.

    The govt obviously won't listen, but the idiot leaders of this "protest" are stuck in the mindset that they are right and everybody else is wrong



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,205 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    It's all about what people will pay

    Scenario 1 - The price of a barrel increases and people panic buy, meaning suppliers and forecourts can increase prices as they see fit as people are panic buying

    Scenario 2 - The price of a barrel decreases but people still need fuel so suppliers and forecourts can still charge what they like while at the same time buying their next delivery for a cheaper price

    It doesn't matter whether the price of a barrel goes up or down, the consumer always loses with big oil



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,829 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    It’s not “peaceful protest” when it gets to the stage of blocking public transport and oil deliveries. These actions are purely to inconvenience the ordinary working people of ireland, self appointed egotists.

    I saw the FB page respond to a cancer patient querying about access to treatment by saying plan ahead and leave home early. How insensitive is that, do they have any understanding how sick someone on chemo actually is between the illness and their treatment, an extra 2-3 hours stuck in traffic could be life threatening for them. My sister thankfully finished her treatment a few weeks ago but we’d burn tractors to get her there and back if that what it took. Pisssing about with their beacons and flags messing with peoples lives.
    the government reduced tax on fuel and said they would do further as was necessary with a meeting already set up for today/tomorrow to decide same. These are our elected leaders not a bunch of egotistical yahoos.

    We need a diverse tax system in ireland, carbon tax is just another tax, I don’t care, it’s going to retrofit houses of the elderly and vulnerable to be more comfortable, that’s what taxes do in a developed nation.

    Water/sewage tax/charges need to be brought in sooner rather than later too, diversify the tax base and ensure everyone pays their way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,731 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    If the haulage companies want to stop deliveries they could just stop delivering like a normal protest. The country would quickly shut down with a nationwide haulage strike and they wouldn't need to block other workers.

    Haulage blocking haulage just shows this isn't a popular protest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,936 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Hard pressed working men are cursing the unemployed louts that are causing this mayhem.

    Unless you are saying the "protestors" are getting a full time wage for their "protesting"?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,144 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    A relative who has a small shop down the country, whose business is already struggling to pay overheads, rates, taxes etc, says that business was down 95% yesterday. What he took in would hardly pay energy costs, never mind insurances or wages. He has said he will probably close his business later this year, after losing a fortune. No incentive for businesses any more, shoplifting rising, employee costs too high, now pension costs, extra bank holidays, everything keeps going up or getting tougher trying to compete with the big nultinationals online. No law or order as we saw yesterday with cops standing by smiling when tactors blocked roads at right angles. He got a parking ticket when dropping a parcel at the post office recently and was out of the car for 2 minutes in an almost empty street. Trying to do a days work.

    Whoever the protestors are helping it is not small businesses.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,205 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    The two lead tractors around croom yesterday were driven by young lads no older than 15. When school starts next week the protests will probably die down haha



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭SAMTALK


    If a deal is done for hauliers/ contractors etc the people who are giving out about the protests will be the ones saying "what about the hard working public, nothing for them "



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