Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

why don’t they go after North Korea? This has nothing to do with America/Iran. The nations may not even proclaim destruction to another nation. It has become a new insurance, should foreign powers meddle

The crypto markets have taken a hit today

Fallout from a nuclear weapon lasts for hours, not a few minutes. After which there's lasting isotopes, like Cesium-137 or Strontium-90, which could theoretically be around in the destroyed area for years.

Any ground attacked by a nuclear weapon will be, effectively, rendered useless for up to a decade or more in real terms. This becomes more of a factor if the water table is affected and contaminants enter the soil.

This isn't, and never was, about nuclear weapons

Reported in the last 30 mins or so - Iranian media says all diplomatic channels and indirect talks with the U.S. have been frozen following Trump’s threats

You can't go after a nation with nukes already and even if NK didn't have nukes China would directly help save them with boots on the ground. It hasn't just become an insurance Nuclear weapons always was.

2013 Trump only acted "sane" because he needed re-election. He would have acted like this last time if there was only one term presidencies.

He doesn't have any leverage here, zero. He has backed himself into a corner, he escalates, he risks the GCC states infrastructure and in turn doing irreparable damage to the US/Global economy. If the GCC states infrastructure is attacked, they will also go on the offensive and the whole ME is at all out war. There is no way out here except go home.

Even an air burst results in fallout lasting for days. The first 48 hours are considered the most critical. The MOST critical. Thereafter there is still a critical period. Any attacked area will become a wasteland effectively. Nobody would be willing to risk entering it.

Fallout from these types of weapons is a reality and a very dangerous one that results in lasting catastrophic effects, whether a ground burst or air burst is used. In terms of casualties, if you're not one of the 100's of 1000's immediately vaporised in the centre of attack, or blown to pieces in the second ring, or merely killed by the concussive effects in the outer rings, you'll be subject to ionising radiation effects which will rip apart the cellular structure of living beings. Assuming that one doesn't receive a lethal dosage that will kill you in the coming days/weeks, you are likely to suffer from physical damage resulting in increased chances of cancer in the 5 to 10 years. And if you don't succumb to a cancer there's a chance of passing on issues to your children.

In terms of considerations by an attacker, no I wouldn't imagine that the long term effects of using a nuclear weapon would be of much concern because these weapons are used to obliterate, not merely to destroy an enemy so you can take over their land.

It is, literally, unthinkable to any rational human being to contemplate using such horrific weaponry, especially in the conflict under discussion.

When I think of regimes destroying civilizations, I think of ISIS blowing up cultural sites. How times have changed.

If trump follows through on his warnings to wipe out civilianisation in Iran tonight, I wonder will any European countries ask US troops to leave their countries or will they continue to be subservient to a madman war criminal.

A magor ‘taco’ coming this evening!