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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,294 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    48 hours🙄

    The Iranians will have those pilots on TV well before that

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,347 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I think he means 'rain down'. The devil may reign, but if hell could come down (where from?) it would be 'raining'. What else can you say to such irreligious rubbish? Sadly, the moron reigns.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,934 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Glory be to god is the trump version of Allahu Akbar

    Ban billionaires



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭somenergy


    I am not sure US got the first pilot they lie so much but if Iran get them the world has never hated the US since trump was elected it would be karma

    Both horrible regimes and shoot there own protesting citizens



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,359 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    And Hegseth imagines he'll still be Secretary for War if JD Vance gets an early promotion?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭Firstsub


    Surprised that Trump had God in capital letters beside his own name



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,392 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    He loves an aul deadline...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭8mv


    I see Sky News also had 'reign' on their headlines - maybe they were getting a sly dig in or they have an editorial position not to correct mis-spellings. Or maybe because Trump spells it like that now we all have to. I've noticed that 'excursion' has been accepted by some as a valid description of this shitshow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,360 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    CENTCOM hasn't given an update in over 24hrs at this point. And the Whitehouse has just said the President's activities are not going to be updated any more today.

    Oh and the most senior military uniformed officer and two more in senior roles were effectively fired by Hegseth this week.

    And bear in mind, a US fighter jet crewman has gone missing in Iran.

    This war is a probably the worst act of Trump's two terms is it? Outside of his election results denial and Jan 6th activities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭bog master


    One would have thought a military base would be a secure and safe place outside of a war zone.

    Apparently not according to Pete keg-breath.

    https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/world/hegseth-allows-troops-to-take-own-guns-onto-bases-after-shootings/ar-AA203DR2?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=69d0fb63eaa14fca9ae6d02bdf623aaa&ei=97



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭Maxface


    It is the classic narsissistic behaviour. Complain about fraud, state there is fraud everywhere. Appoint someone to look for fraud. Select a bogeyman to point at and state they are to blame (Democrat states) all the while you and others around you are blatantly being fraudulent and stealing anything and everything that is not tied down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭Arseboxing


    In some ways people focus too much on individual "acts".

    The overwhelming effect of Trump and what will be his very long legacy is that he has legitimised hundreds of millions of people, billions of people, to be absolute c*nts - to be obnoxious, hate filled, bigoted, thieving, violent blowhards. The glorification of ignorance, stupidity, boorishness, reality denial, crime, every type of the worst behaviour imaginable, it has all been given carte blanche by his example.

    Hegseth is a MAGA child in microcosm. A liar, a bluffer, a spoofer, an arrogant, hate filled obnoxious c*nt.

    Every awful, crass, c*ntish, evil thing we've seen everywhere since Trump took power, all of it has been legitimised by the behavioural example of this evil c*nt. Especially genocide. Russia and Israel have both taken inspiration from his behavioural example to perpetrate their own darkest genocidal fantasies. Now Trump is doing it himself.

    Other US presidents have done very bad things. But the public behavioural example of leaders, even bad leaders, still matters. Bush II, even though he was horrific and launched the unforgivable Iraq War and opened a torture camp, he at least conducted himself in public with some form of dignity. If a leader doesn't do that, and Trump doesn't, the behavioural rules on which any form of decent society depends are thrown out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,492 ✭✭✭trashcan


    I think the Iranians have proven themselves to be pretty savvy propaganda wise, so I think option A is more likely than B. They know that the majority of world opinion is against the US and Israel here, so it would be a pretty stupid move to execute a US serviceman and give Trump and Co a chance to flip the narrative.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,359 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    The invocation, as it were, of the words God and Jesus, by Trump in connection with his activities has been regular lately: just short of his claiming that he is the right hand of God doing his bidding.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,543 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Why mention it at all then? And as has been pointed out, there's no Mass on Good Friday (at all ever per herself, nor Saturday either.) Maybe services (stations of the cross on Friday?) and liturgy/Passion/, but my question is why bring it up? Seems pretty clumsily done.

    As for lack of chaplains, c'mon, it's the military. It's lack of intention - if they wanted a Catholic priest there, they could've made it happen.

    But this is Trump's military, the competent have targets on their backs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,359 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    And he is residing on a military base for his own security while setting aside the rules on weapons availability to the troops on base. Access to unit armouries weaponry is restricted in order to prevent the casual human loss of life and attrition. Time for his close security team to put him as a fire-break between them and the locals on the base.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,359 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    It would give the Iranians a chance to produce the pilot at a foreign embassy in Iran or a neighbouring country for propaganda purposes. No one in their right mind, or Trump's mind, would think a pilot snatch could be performed from diplomatic territory in and country.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,576 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    The increase in the cost of living for US citizens has meant that even simple mince is getting out of the reach of the poorest…

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,211 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    There is a lot of chatter that Trump is currently in Walter Reed, and it's not because he's visiting those maimed in his foolish escapade.
    Similarly his day has been lidded, so no further media expected from him apart from his usual SM inanities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,992 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I don't think people realise how serious this is.

    Let's just lay this out:- The head of the FBI is a Trump loyalist. The head of the USDOJ is a Trump loyalist. The head of the US military is a Trump loyalist. Six of the 8 members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff have been sacked and replaced during Trump's second term. Not sacked for any kind of misconduct but sacked in pursuit of this most vague idea of ridding the military of 'woke'. Head of CIA also pro-Trump. Head of the NSA is a Trump loyalist (Tulsi Gabbard).

    All of the instruments of intelligence, justice and simple might have come under a Trumpian stranglehold within one year. This is not to mention all of the work done by Trump and co. to generally gut the executive branch, generally, and put in more Trump loyalists. We only hear about the more 'newsy' appointments and sackings. We're not hearing about the work being doing by MAGA throughout the whole pyramid of the US's system of government.

    How are free and fair elections going to take place with respect to all of that?



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,576 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Meanwhile, I appear to have learned how to read German...

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,722 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    The fine details have yet to be published, but it seems that there is no change to the rules on weapons availability, only manner of carriage.

    As it stands, if you're in barracks, personal weapons are stored in the armory and have to be signed out by the arms room/supply NCO, but if you live in on-post housing (or off-post, obviously), you may have whatever weapons you can lawfully acquire and have access to them whenever you want.

    The biggest practical change is that those who wear a sidearm off-post when off-duty will no longer have to stop just outside the gate to lock away (or take out) their sidearm before going onto (or off) the base as they currently do. It remains to be seen how many will choose to wear a sidearm on post only, the general perception is that bases are reasonably safe areas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,360 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    I've told this story before. In 2016, I was vocally very much against Trump in the circles I moved in (work/friends etc, whenever it was discussed). One person asked me, "Why do you hate him so much?" I said that Trump would lesson the bar of what can be considered acceptable behaviour. I said people will look at him and all his lying/race baiting/misogynistic/selfish/ignorant traits and they will think that that is ok, as long as you project power then you will be successful.

    In no way did I think it would be as bad as it has become in that respect. I thought we would see that at a middle-management level in various companies/industries etc in which we all work. Especially those of us who worked for or closely with American headquartered or influenced companies. But I thought the machinery of the state, so to speak would keep him in check and prevent him from turning the White House/Capitol Hill/the UN and many other places in to echo chambers of his worst practices. And I was very wrong about that.

    In the near future, everyone will claim they were against him, but we've seen what we've seen and there can be no excuse.

    It is Hans Christian Andersens tale about the Emperor with no clothes in 4K reality TV.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,592 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,579 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    If he’s dead I’m getting the loveliest bottle of red tonight 🤞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 614 ✭✭✭midlander12


    You might need something stronger as that means Vance (and his pal Carlson).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    the Iranians have more of a sense of humour than the moron Americans anyway.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 614 ✭✭✭midlander12


     I thought the machinery of the state, so to speak would keep him in check and prevent him from turning the White House/Capitol Hill/the UN and many other places in to echo chambers of his worst practices

    The much-derided Democrats and Kamala Harris did in fact warn otherwise during 2024 but were drowned out by a chorus of 'the price of eggs' and 'he couldn't be worse than Genocide Joe', depending on which side of the spectrum it was coming from.

    I have been surprised by nothing that had happened over the last 15 months. The only thing that has surprised me is the fact that, up to now at least, things have continued to chug along more or less normally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,579 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    I think the movement would struggle without him there, lots of fighting for power



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,244 ✭✭✭Field east


    If Trump bombs the BE J-ASUS out of Iran and in doing so return it back to ‘stone age’ conditions , then how the hell does he expect the population to rise up and topple the regime . It beggars belief

    When all is ‘ said and done, then ’ what’s left of the pop will have to regroup to get their lives back together again, having to travel over rubble, thread through water, etc, etc where bridges are blown up , make ‘alternative arrangements’ for the provision of power and water , families having to ‘rearrange ‘ living / support arrangements where guardians have been killed, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.



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