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New housing developments in Maynooth

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,480 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    I cycled to primary school in Maynooth before there were cycle lanes anywhere other than the Straffan Road (those were put in in ~1995, which is why they're still crap even after being reworked). Traffic was less safe back then, not safer!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭OwlsZat


    The schools are carnage every morning rain hail or shine, and when the schools are shut the Maynooth traffic problems disappear. Commendable you cycled. However, I think the parents of today have a far heightened concern for road safety. Rightly or wrongly.



  • Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I've said it here multiple times. The lights sequence just outside of Marivilla and the College is a major problem. Once you get past that junction heading to the main street it clears. You can't get to lidl in minutes.

    Some of the sequencing is a piss take around the place. The lights for the meadowbrook link road at Circle K are the same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭donspeekinglesh


    Yep, they really need to move the lights so that the college entrance is part of the controlled junction.

    In the meantime, right turns into the college should be banned in the mornings and right turns out in the evening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭crl84


    The turn onto Meadbrook link road could be improved if they put a box that cars could drive up into to prepare for the light going green, similar to the one if you're on the main street outside BOI about to turn right towards the Glenroyal bridge/Straffan Road.
    By the time some people realise the light has gone green, get int gear, then drive up and right, half the time is often already gone.
    If I'm first in the queue to turn right, and the green light goes for the "straight-ahead" lane, I'll drive up a few metres, past the white line, to be ready for the right-turn filter light to go green and hopefully get a few more cars through in time.

    The green light for right-turn from the link road towards the M4 could do with being five seconds longer too. It's green for less than 10s, and if someone isn't paying attention, there can regularly end up with only 3 or 4 cars getting through before it goes red. Which leads to massive tailbacks on that road, and less people able to get into the left-turning lane.

    The most ridiculous of all is the Roost/Garda Station intersection though. Traffic going 6 different directions crossing each other at once (from Mill Street going left/forward/right at the same time as traffic from Leinster St tries to go left/forward/right). Then because of the crap sequencing of lights further up the main street, and because the Mill St left turn has had a green light pretty much for 4mins straight, it gets completely blocked up around the Sherry Fitz Bradys/O'Flahertys corner, so no-one on Parson Street can get onto the Main Street in the 5 seconds that the light goes green for them. The light goes red for them, and then because of the lights up at Romayos/BOI going green, the traffic starts moving again, which is great for anyone coming from Mill St, but anyone on Parsons St hasn't moved an inch because there is no room on the Main St.
    Some drivers recognise this issue and just drive from Parson St onto main street, and are almost perpendicular with the cars coming from Mill Street for about 20s until the queue on Main Streets starts to move again, as otherwise they'd be sat at Parson St forever.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 576 ✭✭✭MickH503


    The right turn into the Meadowbrook Link Road could benefit from a flashing amber right turn arrow … there are plenty of times it is clear and safe to turn right except that the right arrow is still red.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,956 ✭✭✭Patser


    Seen the perfect storm there one evening.

    Cars heading towards Maynooth stopped as normal at lights, with the yellow box behind clear, so normally cars from the college will pull out into that box - but this evening it was a Streamline coach pulling out of college into the box with his tail still into the gate.

    Of course the green light then came on for cars coming out of Mariavilla, a lot of who were turning right to come up the Moyglare Rd, and were immediately blocked by this bus so there was a tailback of them now back across the junction blocking the cars trying to get into Maynooth. Even as they edged up into the junction as much as possible, the bus couldn't get it's tail out enough to clear the road. So for a few sequences no one went anywhere, until a car from Mariavilla turned towards town to leave a gap for others to get through, and bus to get out.

    Amazing that such a small entrance to college with no real traffic control is also to main entrance for a lot of coaches trying to avoid the town centre.



  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,430 Mod ✭✭✭✭lordgoat


    If I'm first in the queue to turn right, and the green light goes for the "straight-ahead" lane, I'll drive up a few metres, past the white line, to be ready for the right-turn filter light to go green and hopefully get a few more cars through in time.

    This is literally what you are supposed to do. Drive forward to where you turn right. It's also where you stop if the light turns red. It's not a yellow box and you are not in the way stopping there. This junction is insane.

    Also on parsons st in the morning people driving up the wrong side of the road to turn into the college, drop their kids off for school and then go back out the direction they came from wtf is is wrong with you. Seen this a few times the last couple of weeks.

    I'd ban all cars from 500m of all schools unless there is a reason you need to drop your child off. You are traffic and we all hate you.



  • Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The sequencing of lights and the traffic management flow are the main issue here. Banning cars from going within 500ms of the schools up the Moyglare road will only push the issues into other areas and make it worse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,480 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Sequencing of lights will only change which arm of a junction gets held up, it will not create more space. The main roads are physically full in peak.



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  • Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I disagree. The junction at Mariavilla if configured differently with better light sequencing would absolutely help the flow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,480 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Getting you out on to a stopped up road quicker than someone else on to the same stopped up road is a zero sum game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,052 ✭✭✭tnegun


    The changing of the entrances to the old secondary from a single dedicated entry and exit to both being entry/exits has made a mess of things too as cars/buses must wait for an exiting vehicle to be let out before they can enter and if there's a queue to exit the whole thing falls apart. The one closest to the junction has caused at least two accidents recently as cars must cross two lanes if turning back towards the town and were struck by cars in the right turn lane for Mariaville



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭crl84


    "It's also where you stop if the light turns red."

    No,it isn't. The white line and traffic light are several metres before that. If the light turns red you stop there. You're not supposed to drive up to be parallel with the bus lay-by.



  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,430 Mod ✭✭✭✭lordgoat


    Nope. If the light is red you should already be stopped. If the light turns orange/amber you should be stopping and you don't keep going and you don't break the red light and make the turn. If this area was meant to be kept clear there would be yellow box here. This is from the guys who installed the junction. The white line lets you know where the junction starts. Once the green arrow for straight ahead is on, you can dive straight but not turn right.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭crl84


    OK, well in that case it's extremely unclear as pretty much no-one actually drives forward, and pretty much everyone stays behind the white line (and initial light) until it turns green. Driving forward seems like "breaking" a red light, if you're going past the white line while your light is still red…..

    I've also never seen anyone stop up at that "no mans land" when the light turns red, everyone stops before the white line….

    As I said previously, they really need to put in a white box with a right turn arrow in that no-mans land, so that people go up into it.



  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,430 Mod ✭✭✭✭lordgoat


    Once the light goes orange stop at the white line. This rarely happens.

    For this junction the main issue is cars leaving the town get preference over people leaving from the link road. This is intentional.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭Staplor


    The intentional part is fine, but it needs some logic, in the morning, 3 cars turning out is just not enough. There must be a sensor pad that could be installed down the road to estimate the number of cars waiting, and if it's big then extend the time a bit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭golfhead


    Business Post - February 2 2025
    Glenveagh seals €55m deal for 250 acres on Kildare-Meath border

    Glenveagh has acquired land spanning 250 acres on the Kildare-Meath border for €55 million, the Business Post has learned.

    Last year, the housebuilder, led by Stephen Garvey, signalled its intent to “significantly expand” its land bank.

    The company has now completed a deal to acquire a 250-acre site at Moygaddy, Co Kildare, for a price in the region of €55 million.

    The land near Maynooth has capacity for thousands of homes and has been acquired from Tom Bailey, the veteran developer.

    The site was reported to be valued at €40 million in 2023 during a court case over plans to develop the site.

    Based on residential density guidelines, if Glenveagh developed a mix of housing and commercial projects on the land, more than 2,000 homes could be built at the site.

    In September 2024, Glenveagh said the firm was working on land deals that would add thousands of units to its pipeline.

    Last month, a trading update issued by Glenveagh said it had “opportunistically” acquired land with capacity for 9,000 units across 14 sites from the last remaining borrowers from Nama and non-traditional landholders in 2024.

    “The total cost of these acquisitions is €285 million with approximately €210 million deployed in 2024 (with the balance to be deployed in 2025),” the firm said. “These sites were purchased at an attractive cost of €31k per unit.”

    The developer said there was a limited supply of zoned and serviced land suitable for viable own-door housing in Ireland and “this dynamic has necessitated proactive investment in land by the group”.

    Glenveagh’s land bank now has capacity for an estimated 20,000 homes. The developer has targeted to deliver between 2,600 and 3,600 units per annum across through to 2029.

    A number of large property projects were previously proposed on the Moygaddy site, which spans several agricultural fields north of Maynooth, by the previous owners of the land.

    It was planned to create a large neighbourhood, with a healthcare facility, hotel, tourism hub, biotechnology innovation centre and food market. A large housing project totalling 500 homes was also proposed on part of the site, along with offices.



  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,430 Mod ✭✭✭✭lordgoat


    It was planned to create a large neighbourhood, with a healthcare facility, hotel, tourism hub, biotechnology innovation centre and food market. A large housing project totalling 500 homes was also proposed on part of the site, along with offices.

    It is now planned to just build a f-uck load of houses and apartments with no services, amenities or public transport links. Oh and one last thing - the ring road- hahahahahahah we are working on it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭OwlsZat


    Is there a new planning application that your aware of or are you just shooting from the hip?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭donspeekinglesh


    Planning in for 581 units on the new to be built eastern section of the ring road. Just north of the ET school and that new Grange estate.

    https://www.eplanning.ie/KildareCC/AppFileRefDetails/2561119/0



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭donspeekinglesh


    Planning in for 581 units on the new to be built eastern section of the ring road. Just north of the ET school and that new Grange estate.

    https://www.eplanning.ie/KildareCC/AppFileRefDetails/2561119/0



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,052 ✭✭✭tnegun


    Spoke to a guy surveying in Moyglare Hall today, hoping it was council/taking in charge related but it was for an environmental impact survey for the Moygaddy site. Is that stuck in a judical review I can't remember whats happening there?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,480 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    At least one of the appeals was withdrawn in February it seems. Glenveagh have it on their site as a future development.

    https://www.kildarenow.com/news/local-news/1728423/massive-40-7m-office-development-to-go-ahead-in-kildare.html

    The development is entirely in Meath as far as I know, not Kildare!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,480 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Land was rezoned for this when the ring road was approved, so nobody should pretend to be surprised

    Planning includes a doctors surgery - now, that doesn't guarantee they'll find a doctor to run it! But definitely needed now let alone when there's 1500-2000 more people living in a 581 unit estate.

    Going to be all the usual complaints about this one - the neighbourhood centre bit is tall but it's really nothing compared to other bits of the town; other estates will complain if there's a vague chance of there being walkways etc etc. None of it is really valid. Actually looks pretty nice for a new development



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,052 ✭✭✭tnegun


    I guess this "secondary vehicular access via the proposed section of the Maynooth Outer Orbital Route" means via the education campus and the rat run through Moyglare Hall. Although better access to the Dunboyne road and the eventual link to Lidl would be good, any idea of the status of it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,480 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    It'll be a new road to the roundabout outside the school so no entry to Moyglare Hall required. It will access the Dunboyne Road as its primary

    The Eastern Ring Road (Dublin Road to Celbridge Road) tenders are meant to be under evaluation now. Celbridge Road to Straffan Road via Lidl was meant to open years ago, developers and council are both being useless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,052 ✭✭✭tnegun


    Hopefully, continuing the road to the Dunboyne road will relieve some of the congestion at the campus, as it is on a rainy morning, traffic queues from the "new" Moyglare Hall entrance through the estate back as far the GAA pitches. I've often walked the kids to school and passed cars that were queuing in the estate when I left on the Moyglare road on my way back!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,480 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The Grange, which had been assumed to be 100% sold to Cluid, now has a website suggesting some units will be sold: https://thegrangemaynooth.ie/



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