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US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    That's not what you said though, you made no mention of the far left, just repeatedly say "the left".

    Does this mean you'd consider yourself to be on the right politically?

    But the anti defence, anti NATO, anti EU (see previous page) stance is in direct contradiction with wanting “interventions”

    Again, you're projecting these stances onto an entire section of society based on a few individual posters. You're doing this to suit your own perception and agenda.

    or for that matter the concept of international laws and institutions

    So you'll be happy to condemn the US/Israeli attack on the school in the first week of this kicking off? You'll also no doubt be horrified by what the US/Israel are doing as this war breaks international law.

    Or is it just Iran that you feel that international laws should apply to?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,854 ✭✭✭weisses


    Neh, The US/Israel coalition is suffering a case of FAFO, The strait was open before this clusterfuck of a campaign… this mess is your doing… sort it out.

    The US has proven once again it cannot be trusted as a reliable partner



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭bored65


    I already condemned that school attack earlier in thread, unlike those whom are still denying the 36000 killed in Iran or ignore the 360+ schools destroyed in Ukraine and excusing that colonial war where hundreds of shaheed drones are used every night

    I consider myself center right, I think those on the far right like Trump and Farage are scum just like the far Left, both the extremes want EU for example gone as can be seen on previous pages where even Clare Daly got a mention

    on this page we have “intervention” being brought up and some more self flaeggelation yet when I ask whom exactly should be paying and going on this “intervention” or why the “east” doesn’t do anything … crickets

    It be great if there was a unified European military without the US (maybe plus Canada and Japan and Australia) that could respond to these humanitarian disasters and perform peacekeeping seeing how the UN is now broken, but I’m also a realist and see how it’s often the far left that doesn’t want spend on militaries and far right that doesn’t want more European cooperation and unity



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    There was a Minister for Information during the last days of Saddam Hussein's Iraqi regime. Comical Ali was the nickname given to him, such was the absurdity of his public proclamations during the last days of the regime. Claiming victory was near as American missiles and jets flew over his head.

    Every time I see Pete Hegseth talking at a press conference, I'm reminded of Ali and his nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    I am afraid that at this point Israel achieved direct opposite of what they wanted to achieve or what was claimed to be motive for this idiotic attack. Operation Epstein fury is ongoing with no end in sight.

    The only security guarantee for Iran at this stage will be to acquire nuclear weapon or few of them.

    Then this will become classic MAD scenario where both parties will have means to annihilate each other so they will watch out not to start first. Same as NATO/USSR standoff before communism ended quite naturally.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,040 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    https://www.thejournal.ie/trump-us-iran-6999112-Mar2026/?utm_source=thejournal&utm_content=top-stories

    Trump really doesn't like how nobody is helping him in his illegal war. I think European leaders can understand his frustration given his help with Ukraine in the past



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    The 36k+ number hasn't been confirmed, your insistence to bring it up consistently shows you continue to post in bad faith.

    We are not talking about Russia/Ukraine here as it is not on the topic of US/Israel airstrikes on Iran, again the fact that you continue to bring it up shows more bad faith posting.

    I'm not interested in a left vs right, good vs bad nonsense. It just removes any and all nuance that is required when discussing this situation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭bored65


    That’s extra funny in a thread where if you don’t conform to the group think and point out that both US/Israel and Iran/Russia are in the wrong and attacks on neutral non belligerents is doubly wrong one gets labeled immediately as a Trumpist (as happened earlier in thread)

    Nuance is something that is hard to come by in all these pages



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,696 ✭✭✭yagan


    But can't you see that Iran is behind transgender bathrooms etc…..

    Is that how it works? I can't even begin to understand what ping pongs around the minds of Israel defenders.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    You deem anyone who doesn't agree with you to be "the left" and said in a derogatory manner.

    Where's your nuance?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,360 ✭✭✭Tazz T


    So this war is coming to an end but the USS George Bush is just leaving to become the third carrier strike group after Uss Gerard Ford put out of operation for 14 months due to a /cough/ laundry fire and the USS Abraham Lincoln retreated to Oman, just to be sure. it will take two weeks to get there.

    This must be costing the most indebted country in the world a lot of money. Imagine if Europe was to pull out of US bonds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭bored65


    But I didn’t say it in a derogatory fashion

    you chose to jump to that conclusion and be offended {seem to be normal on the far left} instead, all while deflecting from the questions that were posed, here they are again:

    • whom from the “west” should intervene
    • Where and whom will pay for this intervention
    • Why is the “east” not intervening since they are the ones doing most of the importing from the region
    • Why would the “west” intervene in Middle East again when the last time it didn’t go well
    • why would they intervene in Middle East but not Sudan or Ukraine

    there is an inherent contradiction in opposing military spending and alliances from one side of the mouth while calling for “interventions” from the other



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    None of these question were on the back of any of my posts, ask the poster who you put those questions to.

    Your repeated posting of deaths yet to be confirmed (as fact), deflection to Russia, repeatedly saying "the left" and your new favourite those nonsensical sarcastic posts, do nothing positive for your credibility as a serious poster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,696 ✭✭✭yagan


    On the indebted bit I was reading earlier the Financial Times having a piece about how governments have been liquidating T-Bills to raise emergency cash to weather this crisis. Once spent there's actually no reason to reload T-bills. How ironic that the traditional safe haven is being offloaded.

    Having said that the 10 and 30 year bond yields have stopped their climb probably on Trump talk about abandoning the strait. It could well be that he'll reroute his forces towards Cuba, or even Greenland next.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,219 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    You clearly didn't understand my double standards post. There are more interventions than just military you know. For example, why wasn't Israel heavily sanctioned like Russia. Actually no, I don't want your repetitive nonsense. I am out. Go be angry.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭bored65


    Perhaps because Russia killed several times more people (especially own serfs) than Israel and been at it since early in 2010s, and not just in Ukraine, they contributed towards hundreds of thousands of deaths including Palestinians in Syria for a decade while our far left representatives visited on trips to shake hands

    Or because Russia repeatedly threatened day after day war and nuclear attacks on European countries and did cut gas exports to freeze Europe and has carried out multiple low scale attacks

    But most likely because there is no unity against Israel in “West” like there was against Russia due to far left and far right useful idiots undermining any unity in Europe and US and continue to do so as can be seen in anti EU nonsense on previous page

    But yeh maybe do go out, great weather to cut grass



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,525 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    @ILoveYourVibes ”Its just closed to the USA. Which means probably the USA will try to piggyback on spanish ships lets say. Its a myth its closed its just closed to the USA.”.

    Its closed, just have a look at marine traffic.com and see the number of ships sitting inside and outside. 10ish ships a day doesnt demonstrate that its open.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭bored65




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,441 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Diesel set for for it's record monthly rise as Brent hits $120 for the first time during this conflict, things are going to be getting bumpy quite quick now with most central banks considering rate increases on the way.

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,525 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    @PokeHerKing ”Iran would be foolish to go for a ceasefire that does nothing in their favour.

    A return to the status quo would be a poor result for the death/destruction theyve had inflicted”

    So how do you feel about the average Iranian person? Don’t they get a vote in this?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,525 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    @Jelle1880 ”It's getting to the point where maybe someone should have another pop at him. The guy is a deranged fool and is dragging everyone down with him.”

    Iran is now threatening to go after individual US Military officers including two that they say were responsible for the school strike.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,177 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    The USAF is now shifting some EA-37B compass call electronic warfare aircraft to the Middle East to replace the capabilities knocked out by Iran's damaging of 2 EC130-H on the 27th March.

    Speculation on my part here, but I see this as confirmation that a ground operation reliant on insertion via Air Assault, likely via V22 is planned.
    The ranges involved work against straightforward helicopter assault IMO.

    That the damaged aircraft were the scheduled EW & SEAD element for that raid and the USAF is shifting assets to at least keep whatever plan they have in place, viable.

    There is more havoc to be wrought before Trump realises that while he can bomb any target in Iran, that he can't win a victory in the mould MAGA requires here IMO.

    I await Thursday's market close with trepidation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,525 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    The UAE is fighting back with money and visas, they are closing Iranian businesses, kicking out Iranians and freezing $500billion in funds, so at some stage Iran will have to come to the table. Also we are looking at oil and not food, as much as the straits are closed the normal shipping isn’t getting through. There is a massive “Berlin Air Lift” kinda ground movement within Saudi Arabia with shipping offloading on the west coast and trucking to the east coast countries. The arab countries will not forgive Iran for a long time and do have the ability to impact them financially.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,623 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I was listening to an oil expert on Drivetime and he reckons there could be a huge fuel crisis for European airlines by the end of April - not because of the cost but because of the lack of supply.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,525 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    They also need money to run the country and food to feed it. Thats kind of hard when their funds are seized in the UAE.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭Firstsub


    So yesterday Trump said that, unless the Straits of Hormuz was opened immediately, he would obliterate the energy infrastructure in Iran and maybe do the same to their desalinization plants. Today, in an 180 degree u turn, he says it is up to others to open the Straits. One can't guess what tomorrow will bring.

    If he does leave it to others to open the Straits, it is hard to see how this can be done militarily. Can they negotiate with Iran to let tankers through? How would Trump react to this? Presumably, the US will have to have an increased military presence in the region for the medium term to protect their bases, embassies and other facilities?

    From a political viewpoint, Trump will call this operation a total victory like no one has seen before. He may seek to pull out of NATO as he says they haven't done their job. Setting up the EU as an opponent may be beneficial politically as MAGA will wrap the flag about themselves and feel a sense of patriotism with Trump continuing to stoke up the fires with vitriolic statements.

    Democrats desperately need to win the midterms and put a stop to Trump



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,525 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    @brickster69 ”Even at the UN most countries stood silent and said nothing. Given no one say's anything about Israel having nuclear weapons for decades what is the point, may as well do the same as they do. Build nukes and pretend they don't have them.”

    Do you think that if Iran had a nuclear bomb that they would use it? Because obviously a lot of their neighbours have that belief.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,525 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,778 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    More deeply concerned statements incoming.

    Israel to destroy 'all houses' near Lebanon border, defence minister says

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-destroy-all-houses-near-lebanon-border-defence-minister-says-2026-03-31/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,525 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    @PokeHerKing

    You are forgetting that the Middle Eastern countries do have the missiles to fight back, so any escalation on their territory comes with the risk of that fight back.



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