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US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    I think they will be catching a lot of blame globally (not just usual subjects who hate them already) for what is happening right now and future consequences of it, so I would try and get used to that!

    Governments of countries represent that country.

    We can be pretty sure Israeli government badly wanted this US war of choice, pushed for it to happen, didn't give a flying f-ck how it would affect anyone else and is likely still pushing the Trump admin. hard for the US military to escalate things further and increase the destruction and chaos.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,792 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Not at all. It would be utter cruelty to deprive people of being able to blame Israel. Its their entire personality at this point. Its more amusing than anything else seeing the levels people go to. Keep it up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,612 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Netanyahu said recently it was his 40 year ambition to go to war with Iran. That's a rather large elephant in the room.

    "We are in a campaign in which we are bringing the full strength of the IDF to the battle, as never before, in order to ensure our existence and our future. But we are also bringing to this campaign the assistance of the United States, my friend, US President Donald Trump, and the US military. This coalition of forces allows us to do what I have yearned to do for 40 years: smite the terror regime hip and thigh. This is what I promised – and this is what we shall do." (March 1st).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,278 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    We are in a campaign in which we are bringing the full strength of the IDF to the battle

    but not actually to fight an army, only to target the schools and hospitals in Iran



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,214 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Yes but he did it last June. He must have enjoyed it.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,523 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    @circadian

    “I don’t think pointing to current instability really answers the question of how repeated external interference has shaped those outcomes in the first place.” It very easy for us to look back in history and see how we got here, that even applies to Ireland, but how do we move forward.

    Iran needs to change, but it would be nice to see that change come from inside. Lebanon, once again we aren't talking about Lebanon we are actually talking about Hezbollah, they are definitely helping to destroy that lovely country. As for Israel, who is going to put them back in their box, and how?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,523 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    You really have to admit that Israel makes it extremely easy for even rational people to hate their actions, even if we consider Hamas and Hezbollah to part of this genocide. There are no innocent entities in this, but its the civilians who are getting killed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,523 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    I remember that attack following a missile attack, but i don’t remember anything about 31 journalists, do you have a reference ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,854 ✭✭✭weisses


    How about the US should stop shitstirring in the ME ? It caused a massive issue with refugees which is something Europe cant cope with plus the US is indirect responsible for the ISIS terror attacks in europe as well



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,854 ✭✭✭weisses


    Plus actively targeting journalists, and we all sit by and watch



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Tazz T


    https://cpj.org/2025/09/israels-killing-of-31-yemeni-journalists-marks-deadliest-global-attack-in-16-years/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,612 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    When you see just how vicious, violent and nihilistic Israel is, the existence of a Hezbollah or a Hamas should not come as a big surprise. That doesn't justify them or make them any better, but their existence is very predictable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,168 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Further deterioration and indeed demolition of certain very high-end USAF capabilities seems to have occurred in the 27th March strike on Prince Sultan airbase.
    There's widespread chatter that 2 of the very capable Lockheed Hercules EC130-H Compass Call aircraft have been crippled in the attack that is already confirmed to have destroyed an E3-G AWACS.
    The US ability to sustain SEAD & EW in the Gulf has been severly limited by this.

    The use of Compass Call aircraft allows the US to impose its will upon an enemy with a degree of electronic warfare and suppression that is unequalled in other airforces.
    It limits enemy Radar, Radio, Command & Control and does so in a way that gives immediate advantage to US forces.
    The ability to suppress Iran at multiple locations or to ensure continious relay cover at a single point has been severly constrained.
    The US does have an alternative platform entering service in the EA37-B, but currently only 5 are in service and they are still working up.
    The primary issue with using EA37-B to replace the EA130, is loiter time and ability to both dwell within the targeted systems envelopes and to do so low and slow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    Nobody is cheering anything. Iran used brilliant tactic - exposed and exploited major USA weakness. Iran isn't the first one. When you face stronger enemy you don't attack it head on but you go after rear and logistics.

    Gone are the days of drive-by shooting USA style. What they do is the same as Polish cavalry charging German motorised units. Military strategy needs to be adjusted to missile and drone era. If I was a ruler of any dictatorship or monarchy in Gulf I would be afraid not of Iran but of USAI and their insatiable thirst for land and oil. Trump shot himself in a foot yapping everywhere how he want to take Iran's oil. Now everyone know what their true motive is. They don't even hide it anymore talking about democracy and other crap as they used to do before.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭patnor1011




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,643 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭Firstsub


    What are the scenarios in which the current conflict ends?

    • Iran capitulate, allows the Straits of Hormuz to open and allows the IAEA to monitor the nuclear programme. Trump declares himself the greatest human to have ever lived. Unlikely scenario. Certainly in the short term unless a massive bombing of Iranian infrastructure takes place.
    • US carry out big bombing campaign but Straits of Hormuz remains closed, bombs still hitting US bases and Israel. Trump declares victory, says it is up to others to open the Straits.
    • Trump puts troops on the ground, takes control of Islands but some troops die. Straits remain closed. Trump blames Obama and Biden. Creates a diversion with Cuba takeover.

    It is really hard to see an easy conclusion



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,530 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    I did see a few months ago a report that stated that the USA needed to build more hard hangers for planes to stop this sort of thing against a conflict with China on the islands out in the Pacific as it stated that their airplanes were very vulnerable to drones and ballistic missiles sitting in the open but that the problem was that it wasn't seen as sexy enough to be building reinforced hangers for the fighter planes etc. compared to making the planes so most of the money is going Into building the planes etc. and not the hangers to protect them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,168 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Greg Bagwell coincidentally wrote a great thread on this today using the Cold War RAF and the 4 german bases as an example of whats been forgotten with regards to Airfield hardening and defence.


    The threat has evolved to drones and stand off strikes, but the defence and what needs to be defended is still the same as ever.
    Aircraft and personnel.
    In the Cold War the threat was believed to be massive Warsaw pact strikes and those 10ft tall Russian Spetsnaz sowing havoc everywhere they could.
    Hardened Aircraft Shelters, huge anti-air and ground defence including bomb disposal on every base.
    Thats before one takes into account that each of the RAF Germany bases held 4 squadrons, 2 of the bases held more combat power than the entire current RAF.
    UK's use of the peace dividend has been catastrophic both in terms of the RAF and the current states of the British Army and the Royal Navy.
    All of Europe is pretty much in the same boat but the current nadir of British military power in particular, is incredibly striking.
    Especially when one considers that they have been the impetus behind so much military technique, theory and capability.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    Israel apparently wants the Lebanese army to tackle Hezbollah but I’ve lost count at how many times Israel has killed Lebanese soldiers.

    Lebanese soldier killed after Israeli attack in southern Lebanon

    A Lebanese soldier has been killed and five others wounded after Israel attacked an army checkpoint in southern Lebanon, the army says.

    Link

    https://aje.news/p0huh8?update=4446919



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 924 ✭✭✭bored65


    Trump (as per his threats) bombs the country back to dark ages destroying power and water infrastructure triggering a civil war (a bigger version of Syria) and a humanitarian disaster



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,523 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    The Iranian forces have spent the last 47 terrorising their own people, now we can see online calls not only for these individuals to be killed but for their families to be killed in revenge. So its no wonder that they will cling to power for as long as possible, as the other option is their death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,523 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    More attacks on Arab neighbours than Israel.

    IMG_0257.jpeg

    I dont know why they didnt add Saudi Arabia, Oman and Iraq to this list.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,890 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    There could be negotiated settlement in the end mediated through Pakistan. I expect iran to continue to support their proxies in their region and Trump to claim the nuclear abilities and attack capabilities have been pushed back decades.

    I think Trump is too afraid of putting boots on the ground in the region and any retaliation by Iran on his gulf state allies if he commits to widespread bombing. He can sell any peace deals as a win to his supporters as they are idiots.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Perhaps you're amused by Israel killing UNIFIL peacekeepers?

    Won't be long before the Irish soldiers are in the firing line. I wonder if you'll still be amused then?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Tazz T


    As well you know they are attacking US facilities being used to conduct the illegal war on Iran. All legitimate targets.

    Anything to say on Israel's attacks on the Lebanese army today and it's growing war crimes on medical facilities and first responders in Lebanon as a result of their illegal invasion making 700,000 homeless, all coming after bombing Lebanon constantly during Trump's pretend ceasefire for over a year killing hundreds.

    No? But it's their MO, attacking civilians and health (and journalists - note you didn't respond to the 31 journalists killed on the terrorist attack on Yemen).

    What about Israel's attack on an amusement park today near Istafan. Always targeting children - another MO of the terrorist state.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,214 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    3 UNIFIL personnel killed in past 24 hours. Crazy stuff. All Indonesian.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭Tacitus Kilgore DCLXVI


    And because it's gotten to this point on these threads, whomever is responsible for their deaths deserve nothing but absolute contempt. Even though we can probably safely guess the responsible party.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    I wonder will Ukraine comply.

    Lebanon asks Ukraine embassy to hand over suspected Mossad agent

    Lebanon has asked Ukraine’s embassy in Beirut to hand over a man taking refuge there who is suspected of working with Israel’s Mossad spy agency, a senior security official and a Hezbollah source told AFP.

    The Hezbollah source said it had detained a Syrian-Palestinian national, who also holds Ukrainian citizenship, in September after he parked a motorbike on a road leading to Beirut airport through the city’s southern suburbs – where the Iran-backed fighters exercise a de facto security role.

    The motorbike “was planted with an explosive device disguised as a battery”, the source said, requesting anonymity to discuss security issues.

    Hezbollah held the man until its war with Israel erupted earlier this month.

    On March 6, Israel’s military struck a building in the southern suburbs next to where he was being detained, enabling him to escape to the Ukrainian embassy, the source added.

    Hassan Choukeir, head of Lebanon’s General Security, told AFP that “the Ukrainian embassy in Lebanon contacted us on March 10 requesting us to authorise its citizen… who was present there and had lost his passport, to leave through Beirut airport”.

    “After checking his name and photograph, we became aware that he is wanted by the Lebanese judiciary and is the subject of a number of search and investigation notices from Lebanese security agencies,” he added.

    Choukeir said authorities told the embassy it was obliged to hand the man over, adding he was “wanted for involvement in a cell belonging to Israel’s Mossad planning assassinations and bombings in Beirut’s southern suburbs”.

    In Lebanon, people convicted of working for Israel have been sentenced to up to 25 years in prison.

    Link

    https://aje.news/p0huh8?update=4446967



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    This sounds suspiciously like the time the IDF executed 15 medics in Gaza and buried them and their vehicles in the sand. Then lied about it.

    Luckily, one medic survived and he had videoed the incident. Yet another War Crime.

    Along with 70,000 others.


    Haaretz:

    After the World Health Organization said that nine paramedics were killed in five Israeli attacks in southern Lebanon on Saturday – bringing the total number of medical workers killed in March to 51 – the IDF said Monday it had struck a cell of Hezbollah operatives "who were dressed as paramedics and operated near an ambulance." Meanwhile, Lebanese media reported that four ambulances and a school were attacked on Monday in southern Lebanon.



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