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Bus Éireann Expressway Cut 3 Routes

  • 27-03-2026 04:41PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,012 ✭✭✭✭


    Bus Éireann has today notified the National Transport Authority (NTA) and customers that from Sunday 24 May 2026, the following Expressway services will be withdrawn:

    Waterford-Dublin/Dublin Airport (Route 4)

    Ballina-Galway (Route 52)

    Rosslare/Wexford-Waterford (Route 40 Segment)

    https://www.buseireann.ie/news/friday-27-march

    Personally a little suprised with Waterford-Rosslare service going but not Waterford-Dublin. Suspect driver numbers could also be a reason behind cuts.

    Expressway unlikely to last much longer the way things are going.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,481 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    they are pretty huge culls with a massive void left, particularly thinking of the small towns/villages along the way they serve.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,056 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    I'm guessing there is private sector competition on the route 4?

    I assume Wex to WD will be replaced by a PSO route, or already is? 340 + 372



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,012 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    It's really just few in S Kilkenny.

    Citylink serve most stops on same Galway-Ballina route.

    Wexford Bus on Wexford-Waterford.

    I suspect Dublin Coach might revisit plans for 600 and see where Carlow could fit in as part of wider freq increases.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,481 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    I really hope they don’t add Carlow to that service. It’ll slow it down massively.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,481 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    It’s a poor decision at a time when we are supposed to be increasing public transportation etc



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,633 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    As I posted in the Connecting Ireland thread, there will now be a full assessment by the NTA (to be completed before the routes are withdrawn) to see whether there is a need to replace the services in part or full by new PSO services.

    Private operators can also consider whether they can fill the void themselves if they think there is a commercial opportunity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,204 ✭✭✭patrickc


    JJ kavanagh always seem to have way more pax on them compared to the 4



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 Mondo Connelly


    The prices they charge are absolutely appalling, more or less 30 euro for a Galway city=Shannon Airport return ticket and the phone charger sockets weren't even working



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,864 ✭✭✭jd


    I guess Wexford Bus may run some of their Wexford - Waterford services from Rosslare - if they think there is the demand for it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,481 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    is that a fairly typical price? Crazy money.
    id say vast majority must be free travel recipients



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,420 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    nothing to truly worry about, with the significant expansion of rail services nationally in the plans, tis all good!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,633 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    There’s a high frequency Local Link route 387 linking Wexford with Rosslare (15 services each way), and the NTA already have plans to revamp PSO route 370 between Wexford and Waterford.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,056 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    It's from 12.80 one-way from GY to SNN, which is grand.

    €25.60 return.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,481 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    yes- Dublin coach and JJ Kavannagh offer a fairly comprehensive service and go on the motorway directly rather than the old road which is obviously slower. Also rail service.
    Big loss to Carlow especially though, I can imagine it must be quite a busy service from there to Dublin and back



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,481 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    The more I think about this the crazier it seems- the Waterford Dublin railway line is pretty much at capacity- the trains are packed from Carlow. Where is the slack to take up from all the cancelled buses?
    These idiots are preaching daily about sustainable transport and climate “action” yet here’s a major slashing of public transport services



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,633 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    With respect, you don’t really seem to understand what is happening here.

    There are two types of bus services operating across the state:

    • Commercial services, receiving no subsidy, with timetables and fares set by the operator and which are operated to make a profit for the operator

    • PSO services which are subsidised by the State with timetables and fares set by the NTA

    Once again, route 4 is operated currently on a fully commercial basis by Expressway, receiving no subsidy whatsoever from the State.

    Bus Éireann have concluded that it is not possible for them to operate it and make a profit, and as such have made a commercial decision to cease operating it.

    That is a company decision which they are entirely entitled to take as they take the hit with any losses. The service clearly was not carrying sufficient fare paying passengers to cover the costs of operating it, which is how commercial services need to be run.

    It is now up to the NTA to decide whether there is a need to replace the commercial service in full or part with a subsidised PSO service.

    That assessment will likely happen over the coming weeks.

    It is perfectly possible that they will decide to implement new subsidised PSO services as a result of this assessment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,633 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    As an example, the 245x between Dublin and Cork is a PSO route that came about as a result of the NTA assessing that there was a need to maintain the service, following Bus Éireann making a commercial decision that they could not operate the Expressway X8 route any more, due to the losses that they were incurring.

    Post edited by LXFlyer on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 538 ✭✭✭91wx763


    LX said- "

    It is now up to the NTA to decide whether there is a need to replace the commercial service in full or part with a subsidised PSO service.

    That assessment will likely happen over the coming weeks.".

    Will the Rosslare to Waterford railway line being closed influence their thinking ? The 370 which "replaced" the train has been much amended away from being a replacement over the years. A bus leaving Rosslare an hour after an arrival and arriving an hour before the ferry would be optimum. Or will they make people change on to Wexford bus at Wexford to get to Waterford.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,116 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Citylink Ballina-Castlebar-Galway is quite popular, clearly pinching many BÉ fares on same route



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,633 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    The 370 is due to be upgraded at some point to run between Wexford and Waterford multiple times per day via Wellingtonbridge, Duncannon and New Ross.

    There are 15 buses a day in each direction on Local Link route 387 between Wexford and Rosslare Europort - I suspect that will be sufficient for that section.

    The question will be if additional PSO services are needed along the N25 between Wexford and Waterford.

    The railway being shut frankly won’t make a difference.

    There are sod all foot passengers these days - the services will be designed for the domestic market which is the one that needs it.



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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,122 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    The thing is over the past 20 years we have seen a massive explosion in coach and bus services, new services, new routes, vastly greater frequency and this has resulted in massive increases in the numbers of people using these services. It is night and day better today then it was 20 years ago.

    But the issue for BE is that most of these innovative new services came from new commercial entrants and BE management failed miserably to respond to this new reality and compete with them.

    BE’s traditional routes were built around extremely long, slow routes that stopped at almost every town and village along the way, whilst the new entrants started direct non stop or semi stopping services that used the motorways and were much faster and to no one’s surprise people flocked to the new services and BE has failed to change to meet that challenge. Instead they seem to be just retreating into PSO services where they face less competition and don’t have to be innovative.

    Other operators realised that there was massive untapped potential in the market, that far more people would happily travel by coach if only it was faster and more frequent. Meanwhile BE stuck to their old slow route network which simply wasn’t fit for purpose anymore, they failed to respond to changing market circumstances.

    I hate to see any routes shutdown and thus less options and competition, but I’m also sure that some of the other operators will happily expand to fill the gaps left and we will get PSO routes where they don’t.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,679 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    If by BE you mean Expressway then they certainly do have routes that are as good as other commercial routes. If you mean the green and yellow BE coaches on PSO routes then they are absolutely doing their job as a public service in covering the places that are not commercially viable.

    The Expressway between Limerick and Shannon Airport is non stop and uses all available bypasses and motorways.

    I think a lot of people are confused about the difference between the two.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 CasNiRas


    I'm surprised by the 52. Whenever I got on, it was fairly busy and sometimes there were only a few free seats.

    Perhaps it could be replaced by a PSO route? I'm open to correction on this. CityLink only serves Galway to Balina four times a day.

    In my unqualified opinion, this is not enough, as I have got on Citylink buses that were almost completely full. I can definitely see them filling up in the future, given the reduced capacity of the route.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,019 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Probably paying passengers weren't willing to pay a higher price.

    Citylink won't be long in getting a license to run more services if there's demand.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,122 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    No, I’m specifically talking about Expressway, BE’s commercial arm.

    20 years ago when the intercity motorways were built, new commercial operators jumped in and got licenses to make use of those motorways with new direct non stop or semi stopping services using those motorways, the likes of Aircoach, Citylink, Dublin express, Dublin Coach, etc. and these services have been incredibly popular.

    During this period BE Expressway management did nothing, they didn’t try and launch new services on the motorways, instead they tried to just continue to operate their old much slower routes like the x8 and of course they lost massive numbers of passengers to the better, faster services.

    As a result, all BE expressway has done is cancel more then a dozen routes over the past 10 years, including major ones from Dublin to Cork/Limerick/Galway/Belfast.

    There may be some decent Expressway routes left, but the Expressway network is now a shadow of its former self and the only “innovation” we see come from BE Expressway is them closing a couple more routes every few years!

    It is clear to me that BE has failed miserably as a commercial operator and are retreating into just PSO routes now.

    If you mean the green and yellow BE coaches on PSO routes then they are absolutely doing their job as a public service in covering the places that are not commercially viable.

    No one in Cork thinks that! last year as many as 40% of departures were being cancelled and it got so bad that the NTA had to bring in reduced emergency schedules!

    Frankly BE are a worse PSO operator then they are a commercial one, but they have an incumbent position in much of the Country outside of the GDA.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,122 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    I’d suspect Citylink will jump at the chance to increase frequency on the route if the demand is there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,914 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    They would need to provide a later service anyway.

    At the moment the last Citylink service leaving Ballina is 15:55 whereas you can get a Bus Eireann up to 19:30.

    People living in Tuam or Milltown but working anywhere in the Ballina direction will have no way of getting home.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 CasNiRas


    I'll definitely miss the evening service, as I've relied on it a few times to get home.

    I'm not sure about many other stops, but the CityLink stop in Tuam does not have a bus shelter, whereas the Bus Éireann stop does. On the many rainy days, I have taken the 52 just because there is a shelter to wait in.

    One thing I will concede to CityLink, though, is that their buses are more modern and I find them more comfortable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,914 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    Agreed. It's silly that for a place it's size all the companies have their stops in different parts of the town. That unused carpark behind SuperValu would make an ideal hub for them all.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,154 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    It's even more silly that Galway - Tuam has SIX separate bus operators, none integrated for fares.



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