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US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,525 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    They claim they don’t know which side fired at them. Maybe it’s time that the UNIFIL are allowed to fire back.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,525 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    I just love this, talk about an idiot.

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    Of course he wasn't talking about “that type of ballistic missile”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


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    We live in a world where no one in the White House is brave enough to explain to Trump that Kharg island is a terminal and Iran can just shut down to the flow of oil to it from the mainland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,525 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    @sock.rocker* and thats why i dont see any logic in putting boots on that island.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,799 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    doesn't matter, for some facts and reality are utterly irrelevant. The ONLY possible answer to all problems is to blame Israel.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭vswr


    YEMEN



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭rayman10


    How does he get the oil from Kharg past the straits?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    He ain't getting oil to Kharg in the first place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭rayman10


    He won't be taking Kharg. Everybody else in Washington knows it's auicide mission that will achieve nothing.

    But then again he might be that stupid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    Foreign workers in the Middle East must be fleeing while they still can. The oil industry is in trouble and drinking water supply could be a bigger problem.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/11/severe-water-stress-why-desalination-plants-are-gulf-greatest-weakness

    With 90% of drinking water in the Gulf coming from desalination plants, it’s clear that if those facilities are inoperable, the Gulf is vulnerable – and the implications for its people are massive.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,671 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    The American Military are more than capable of taking one of the 3 islands to be fair.

    Obviously that is separate to whether or not they should.

    As for American personal being killed, all killings in the past was because they were woke.

    Since the rebrand, they will die in honour as warriors for a cause no one can articulate.

    But not woke.

    I think there is an above 50% chance they move on one of islands, all the indicators suggest it.

    Good look to the region then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,854 ✭✭✭weisses


    lets use Iran, Tell me what happened in 1953 when the Iranians had the audacity to suggest their oil was theirs ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    They know it was from Israel but they have to be 200% certain or Israel will go begging and weeping to the western media and the heads of all relevant international organisations to complain about anti-semitism. That is the kind of country it is.

    https://www.metrotvnews.com/read/NgxCaloq-indonesian-unifil-peacekeeper-tragically-killed-after-israel-s-projectile-exploded



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,667 ✭✭✭amacca


    It appears to be madness all right....

    If they take it, then they are a sitting duck

    The oil just won't go there....

    You have to hope Iran won't target the island as its valuable to them too.....but US having it represents an existential threat to the regime....

    It really appears to me that Donald Trump suffers from another one of that most detestable of qualities in a leader.....the exact opposite of analysis paralysis...........leap before you look.…say I can do it no matter what the ask and drag everyone around into the **** with you

    A gigantic pr1ck of epic proportions....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    The problem with terror is that terror breed more terror. Anything Israel claim that they are defending itself from is of their own making. All of Israel problems were created when they went around terrorising everyone. All of those groups they are fighting about were created as response to Israel actions and policies.

    I am afraid that with Iran they little overestimated their lapdog (USA) ability to win a war since they hardly won any since WWII. I simply dont understand that insane belief they can achieve anything positive by murdering everyone in their path. Despite killing anyone they could they still dont control Gaza completely and likely never will unless they kill every Palestinian. Now they decided that they want part of Lebanon too. Land they stole from Syria wasn't enough I suppose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭rayman10


    Trump is obsessed with Kaharg since the 1980's. As he was with tariffs. So I wouldn't surprised if he takes an island.

    But he seems to be saying there's stupid people in DC who won't let him.

    So let's see what happens I suppose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,617 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I saw an analyst yesterday evening suggesting that Trump was convinced by Netanyahu and the neocon nutjobs around him that the successful assassination of the Ayatollah would result in the immediate collapse of the Iranian state, probably within 48-72 hours. It has all unravelled from there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,439 ✭✭✭brickster69


    A realistic article from Bloomberg on how industry players see the economic situation unfolding in the coming months. Plenty damage done already which will take time to recover from. During the oil embargo of 1973 prices rose 400% and the damage caused took a decade to recover from and that was just 7% of the global oil at the time out of action.

    Knock on effects if this is prolonged could well be a once in a century event because this time we have food, gas and oil all in the same boat. Countries with huge unsustainable debt levels now compared to then, where they have to borrow just to pay the interest on that debt.

    The media is already starting a new slogan of " short term pain for long term gain " highly likely they could have got that the wrong way round, but it is comforting to know. No idea what others think, but difficult to see any possible gain from this just extreme pain.

    The world food programme last week issued a statement that by June an extra 45 million people will suffer acute hunger. Starting to think they are totally on a mad mission or just don't give a ****.

    Bloomberg link

    https://archive.is/qlhig

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,628 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    I see Donnie first spoke about taking Kharg Island back in 1988. I came across an old you tube clip of a US intelligence official talking about what it's like to brief him. It reminded me of a clip from the Simpsons: "I was elected to lead, not to read"



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 8,113 Mod ✭✭✭✭circadian


    I think you’re shifting the focus away from what I was getting at. I wasn’t saying Yemen (or anywhere) has a simple or peaceful history, I doubt there's anywhere on the planet that does.

    My point was more about specific moments where countries were on trajectories toward more representative systems, like Iran in the early 50s, and how Western foreign policy and interference disrupted that.

    Listing a history of conflict in Yemen (ignoring my original point about the likes of Iran and Lebanon in the process) and implying that because groups like the Houthis exist, doesn't directly relate to something inherent about the societies themselves. Disruption, especially outside influence, whether it is from Iran or from Western nations, will create power vacuums where more violent and extreme groups fill that void.

    That example actually fits the point I was making, Yemen is also a proxy arena where outside powers are backing different sides which tends to prolong and intensify conflicts rather than explain them as something intrinsic. You can look back at the destabilisation of Iran in the 50's as a precursor to other conflicts in the Middle East where a fundamentalist regime begins to assert it's own influence.

    I don’t think pointing to current instability really answers the question of how repeated external interference has shaped those outcomes in the first place.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,628 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    According to sources from within Iran, Khomenei knew he was on borrowed time since the 12 day war and had planned accordingly for the day after he was killled. The Iranian military also decentralised their command structure to mitigate against future strikes that removed their top leadership

    As the Kent guy said there was an echo chamber around Trump where anyone with information to challenge the easy peasy pro war narrative were effectively isolated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,439 ✭✭✭brickster69


    The head of the department for war unveils the US blueprint for it's greater north America project. From Greenland to Ecuador, from the Arctic to the gulf of America the US will be free. I had to check to see if it was AI or not, ****ing hell, they are totally insane.

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,359 ✭✭✭Tazz T


    Destabilised the entire region. Lets not forget that attack on newspaper complex in Sana'a killing 31 journalists last year. Legitimate target?

    That's like saying what has Iran done to the US historically.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    At the very least you'd want to be stockpiling water.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,617 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    This is where those idiots went badly wrong. They assumed Iran was a standard pyramid structure, like their own states and all that had to do was remove the leader for the whole thing to collapse. They didn't realise that Iran had been planning for for the assassination of the Ayatollah and how it would be able to carry on smoothly in the event of this happening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 924 ✭✭✭bored65


    So an American version of Putin’s and Iranian “spheres of influence” and “might is right” geopolitical nonsense which you have no issues with



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,854 ✭✭✭weisses


    I think the US and Israel knew exactly what command structure was/is in place, the mossad is to well infiltrated in Iranian society



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,854 ✭✭✭weisses


    So Spain closed its airspace for American assets involved in the Iran war ….. when will the rest of our politicians grow at least a resemblance of a backbone and do the same?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,543 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    Your entire posting history on this wider topic can be summed up as follows

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,968 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Considering US/Israeli intelligence seem to know what time Iranian commanders take their bathroom breaks at (and have loitering munitions over the outhouse), seems far fetched that they'd miss a little detail like Iran decentalising their whole command structure.

    I think more that either this pertinent information wasn't reaching Trump and Co or else it was the arrogance of assuming the Iranians would fold anyway.

    Or... chaos is the point?



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