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Ryanair's order for Boeing 737 MAX 10 planes - how will this affect the Buzz and Malta Air fleet?

  • 21-03-2026 08:54PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 305 ✭✭


    Ryanair has ordered up to 300 Boeing 737 MAX 10s, with deliveries expected from around 2027 onwards. This could be good news for Ryanair's subsidiaries, Buzz, Malta Air and Ryanair UK. But will most of these planes, once delivered, go to Buzz and Malta Air and be repainted into their respective liveries?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,126 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    unless I am mistaken, the vast bulk of the fleet registered under Malta Air has a Ryanair livery.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 305 ✭✭BusGuy


    Not all of them, and this is the point about this thread. Once the new planes arrive, will more planes be painted into their own liveries and not be stuck with the Ryanair one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,126 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    Vast bulk doesn’t mean all and Ryanair is the core brand. I would expect the vast bulk of the new ones also to be liveried in Ryanair.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 305 ✭✭BusGuy


    But I highly doubt they will remain in the Ryanair livery, mainly since there are already plenty of 737-800s in the original livery, 50/50 on the 737 MAX-200s between the Buzz and Malta Air livery, so expect a few planes in the Buzz livery, but what about the A320s then?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,580 ✭✭✭EchoIndia


    A relatively small number of B38Ms were delivered in Buzz (eight aircraft) or Malta Air (six aircraft) livery, with all subsequent aircraft for these carriers wearing standard Ryanair colours. Lauda Air Europe A320s all wear that operator's livery and there does not seem to be any plan to change this.

    As for 737-10s, we don't know for sure but the evidence would suggest that most, if not all, will arrive in Ryanair livery. As has been stated, that is the core brand and Ryanair won't want to dilute it, or indeed complicate any moving around of aircraft between the different arms of the company, as has happened a good bit with the 737-800s.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,126 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    Buzz and especially Air Malta (plus Laudaair) are tiny cogs. They will not be changing all new aircraft over to those brands.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,305 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    As already pointed out, the breakdown of livery diversification will most probably follow the exisitng pattern.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 305 ✭✭BusGuy


    But it isn't like Buzz and Ryanair UK, one of the biggest Ryanair subsidiaries out there? Buzz is expected to do some Dublin - Kerry flights for some reason over the next week or so (it says on the website "operated by Buzz"), and before Buzz only stuck around to Polish-based routes, but now seeing it expand to national flights I think in my opinion suggests to me that Buzz may be one of the "grown ups" compared to Malta Air and Lauda. Malta Air is only here to replace Air Malta, I believe.

    Buzz is not a tiny cog. Compare it to like 3 years ago when all flights were grounded to like Warsaw - Dublin and all them sorts of stuff, put referencing back to the point I made above, Buzz is not a tiny cog if it can handle our national Dublin - Kerry flights.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,580 ✭✭✭EchoIndia


    Polish and Maltese-registered aircraft populate lots of FR routes that do not touch those countries. I have noted that Irish-licensed pilots fly those aircraft too, so they are in effect integrated into the general Ryanair network. At Dublin on any given day there are streams of 9H- and plenty of SP-registered 737s operating Ryanair flights from and to a plethora of places. Malta Air has 179 aircraft at present so it is rather more than a replacement for Air Malta (which lives on as KM Malta Airlines anyway). You can look at the flight history of any individual aircraft on FR24 if you wish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,126 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    , have you been on a flight operated by buzz or Malta Air. All of the ones I’ve been on have been in Ryanair livery. I’ve seen the odd Malta Air or Buzz livery but I imagine that it is th minor part.


    it’s funny that they reintroduced th buzz brand having shut it down more or less immediately after acquiring it from KLM UK/Air UK to get more Stanstead slots.

    Ryanair have presumably got some brownie points in having Malta Air but the vast part of the fleet there is in traditional blue/yellow not red/white.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 305 ✭✭BusGuy


    It's interesting to see that Irish pilots fly the Buzz fleet, since I always thought that only Polish crews can fly those planes.

    But anywho.

    I actually have, I believe, lots of times since I frequently do the DUB - WMI route, but coming back to Buzz, I really think that Buzz has plenty of space for expansion, but the point about to make applies for Malta Air too but I think that if Ryanair makes mesaures such as for example WMI - STN operated by Buzz, only (Or any flight out of Poland or Malta) would give the main Ryanair arc plenty of spare EI B737s and B737 Max 200s free, and possibly improving frequency for Ireland and UK flights. I hope that the upcoming Max 10s are split between Buzz and Malta Air.

    And just to add that Buzz can improve frequency around neighbouring countries, which are around Poland (Germany, Latvia), so this is another positive for Polish aviation. It would make no sense for the Irish/foreign countries' crew that for a flight to be operated by the main Ryanair airline crew to understand people who speak Polish when they don't even speak Polish!



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 12,409 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    I've been on more Buzz operated routes out of Dublin in the last year than Ryanair ones.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,305 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,655 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    Any EU registered aircraft can be flown by a pilot with a EASA licence (with the right type rating), just as any EU registered aircraft can be used to fly anywhere in the EU. Its in the European concept of freedom of movement.

    Whereas in the UK it must be a CAA licence since Brexit to fly a G- reg aircraft.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,280 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Pfft, can't be dealing with all that EU red tape, so they invent some red white and blue tape 😝

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,305 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger




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