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Would you visit USA in the current climate?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭Benedict XVI


    I did, you just did not understand the answer! Given the cases we have heard reported, there is a 50/50 chance you could be detained at immigration in the US, if you are there is a 100% chance you'll be detained for at least 6 weeks

    What are these numbers about?

    If you are saying one has a 50/50 chance of being detained at immigration then that implies half the people at immigration are detained.

    And if you are there 100% chance of being detained?

    Where is there?

    The US ?

    Are you saying that everyone who goes to the US is detained by immigration?

    I doubt you are saying any of that.

    But please, make yourself clearer.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,891 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    I’m still waiting on my visa which seems to be taking an age but I’m back and forth for anywhere between 4-6 weeks, I normally take the same time in Ireland before I travel back and zero issues.

    A few pointed questions at pre clearance but otherwise it’s been fine. also agree that the reality is 99% of people are just getting on with their lives, the political class is so polarized and that’s what’s presented in the media



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,421 ✭✭✭Kaybaykwah


    Yes, the American people are very quiet from your vantage point in Ireland.

    The politicians in charge, and a slight majority in the Senate and Congress have let the President do the bidding of Israel in its war against a country of 90 million, the size of Western Europe. The US wants the repeat of an imposed governance in Iran they executed with the British 3/4 of a Century ago. I don’t know how this could go wrong. Add the menace to Greenland, Cuba, Canada.

    This is a perfect recipe for terrorism, and an excellent source of anti-semitism.


    But hey, have yourself a nice safe trip.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,891 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,691 ✭✭✭yagan


    For anyone going in the immediate future there seems to be widespread TSA delays in most airports in the USA due to government shutdowns. Be careful if relaying on connecting flights.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,205 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Was in New York 3 weeks ago with herself and the kids (teenagers).

    Immigration in Dublin was no hassle. Guy wasn't particularly friendly but no issue. Asked me what line of work I am in and what was my reason for travel. Barely acknowledged my answers.

    New York was New York. Loud, buzzy and generally just an overload for the senses. Food and drink in restaurants was expensive but not really much more than Dublin prices. Pizza slices and takeaway bagels are reasonably priced for a snack/lunch on the go.

    Kids loved it but being teenagers that was a given. Personally if I didn't go back for 10 years I'd be happy enough.

    One morning in the lift a couple got in and I said good morning and asked them their floor (I was in front of the control panel). She pipes up with "are you here on vacation or are you here to see our wonderful president"? I just nodded and said "just a few days holidays". She then said "I'm really, really sorry. We didn't vote for him". I didn't know what to say so I just smiled and nodded at her.

    It's a complete melting pot of a country so there'll be differing political and cultural opinions throughout.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,421 ✭✭✭Kaybaykwah


    ICE officers to descend on US airports soon. Should make things interesting.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,891 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    I’m back in the US now, but you’re right it will definitely change things



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,891 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Seems the addition of ICE has caused a fairly dramatic improvement in wait times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,421 ✭✭✭Kaybaykwah




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,345 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Today I heard about a man who lived in NYC for years got lifted and deported . I was surprised as he has several siblings who are legal / citizens . I wouldn't fancy looking for work in the current climate , no way .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭Gorteen


    I was in California a couple of weeks ago. Very, very expensive! Met lots of people… no one had a good word to say about Trump. You'd imagine, even though it's a predominantly Democratic state, that I'd have meet at least one of the e38% who voted for Trump in 2024



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,392 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    You'd have to go well north or inland to county California.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    I've added the U.S. to my no visit list. Been there wore the T-shirt and donated it to a charity shop.

    Nothing against Americans in general, it's their government's foreign policy that grates.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,891 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Oh some people are definitely choosing not to travel, but i dont know if that would cause the mass drop in lines that are being televised.
    It definitely seems that every airport is very busy in the morning and then it eases off very quickly.

    I'll probbaly travel back to ireland saturday or sunday but its the usual evening flight



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 FatBudda


    I'm sorry not for me. Americans voted in Trump twice despite knowing what kind of person he was so yeah iv'e something against Americans in general. They don't get a free pass.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 81,441 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    I wont be going anywhere near the US any time soon, not with that overstuffed oompa loompa in office.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,421 ✭✭✭Kaybaykwah


    The promised increase in ICE officials in select US Airports might have an effect in the next little while, as far as international travellers go. We'll have to gauge if the new beautiful war will deliver on its promise of eliminating or exciting terrorist activities.

    They might also want to take a look at lack of safety in Air traffic control, as a deterrent to travel… I lost two compatriots (pilots) that could be related to problematic work conditions brought on by Elon's DOGEing about. In fact, after cutting back jobs in that department, Musk seemed to offer paying Air Safety personnel salaries for the duration of the Govt shutdown.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭dairyedge2


    I think this war and how we will all pay for it will once more dampen ideas about going for me in future. How they can shrug off bombing a school like it’s nothing is unforgivable. Pay now and pay them over, forget it. They can’t even organise their own airports.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    With 'Americans in general' I'm referring to chance meetings with random members of the population. If you want to lump all Americans into the Trump camp then that's a matter for you.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,392 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Out of 240 million eligible voters, 162 million of them didn't vote for Trump.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 FatBudda


    But they DID vote him in. That's democracy and the blame falls squarely on the American electorate. The ones that didn't bother their arse voting are as bad as those that voted for him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,392 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    They voted Bush in twice aswell. People had no problem going then.

    Was before people turned into utter mentalists due to social media though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,273 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    It's "Americans in general" that elected that government, knowing full well what was going to happen.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,497 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    No 75 million didn't vote for trump, 90 ish million didn't vote at all which is a de facto vote for whoever ends up winning much like abstaining in the Dail etc. Not voting does not equal not supporting trump it simply equates to not caring enough to vote at all therefore they don't think hes that much of an issue which is nowhere close to not supporting him.

    Anyone who didnt vote is in my opinion just as bad as those who voted for him and shoulder just as much of the blame.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,732 ✭✭✭brokenbad


    Have been to the USA twice in the last 3 years - NYC, LA & San Francisco on family holidays - trip of a lifetime with some great memories made and didn't encounter any negative experiences while there. Planning to visit Chicago later this year and looking forward to it. Couldn't give a toss about Trump or the political situation over there. Each to their own….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,392 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Thing is, theres huge areas of the country - 10s of millions of people over 10s of millions of square miles - who will never vote and see federal politics and DC as some sort of "Eastern" thing. Almost like a different country. I've known people involved in state and country politics to varying degrees who dont vote in Presidential elections.

    They almost would laugh when you'd suggest voting for a Bush or a Clinton. Or a Trump. Or voting to give any one person that amount of power.

    How many people on Boards who went to America in the 00s are saying they wouldn't go now? How is it different?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 FatBudda


    It's all semantics and excuses. Donald Trump is the American president because of the American electorate. They need to own it. As far as I'm concerned all of them are fair game for ridicule and being called every name under the sun. People need to also be more conscious when buying American products and think twice about that new i phone or Tesla etc...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    Yes Americans voted for Trump by a majority of just over 2 million votes, 77m to 75m but they don't elect on a popular voting system.

    They also didn't 'know full well what was going to happen'. Did they know he was going to start a war against Iran?



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