Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

Not going well for Tulsi. Think the big beautiful bus is just round the corner.

https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/trump-dni-tulsi-gabbard-cornered-into-conspicuous-dodge-on-trumps-imminent-threat-claim/

SENATOR JON OSSOFF (D-GA): So the assessment of the intelligence community. Is that iran’s nuclear enrichment program was obliterated by last summer’s airstrikes.

TRUMP DNI TULSI GABBARD: Yes.

SENATOR JON OSSOFF (D-GA): In the opening statement you submitted the committee last night also stated quote there has been no effort since then to try to rebuild their enrichment capability” end quote correct? That’s right. And that’s the assessment of the intelligence community.

TRUMP DNI TULSI GABBARD: Yes.

SENATOR JON OSSOFF (D-GA): Was it the assessment of the intelligence community that there was a quote “imminent nuclear threat posed by the Iranian regime,” yes or no?

TRUMP DNI TULSI GABBARD: Senator, the only person who can determine in what is and is not an imminent threat is the president.

You’ve stated today that the intelligence community’s assessment is that Iran’s nuclear enrichment program was obliterated and that, quote, “there had been no efforts since then to try to rebuild their enrichment capability.”

Was it the intelligence communities assessment that, nevertheless, despite this obliteration there was a quote “imminent nuclear threat posed by the Iranian regime,” yes or no.

TRUMP DNI TULSI GABBARD: It is not the intelligence community’s responsibility to determine what is and is not an imminent threat. That is up to the president based on a volume of information and that is up to the president based on a volume of information that he receives.

It is Montserrat but that's an interesting piece of info all the same. They wrangled evacuation day to the same date so they could take it off.

Kudos for the green ink!

Gabbard and Vance will have to bite more than one lip for the foreseeable future . It’s pretty obvious they are personally opposed to this war yet won’t say it publicly, unlike the guy who had the decency to resign at least.

Ultimately Trump will put everyone in a tough position

If you had even one functional braincell and care about the long term consequences for yourself (never mind everyone else/human decency) the only decision is to not wrestle with a pig ....to avoid getting covered in ****

Looking at his previous extensive list of what for most people would be considered abject failures/embarrassments.…I'm not sure how anyone thought raising the stakes would result in a more satisfactory outcome this time....a lad like him shouldn't be considered for any responsibility or anything with consequences for other people.......

Give him shelter, rations and drop him off in the middle of whatever the largest uninhabited wilderness that can still be found is.

The argument that an attack was imminent by Iran seemed to fall apart if Tulsi Gabbards statements are correct. These are in total conflict with the utterances of Trump. The justification for attacking Iran was not true according to her testimony. This would appear to be a huge issue for the Trump administration but I imagine they will talk their way out of it

He comes from a long line of draft dodgers.

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) was condemned by Catholics on social media this week after he endorsed an “anti-Catholic” conspiracy theory article, which warned that a “foreign” cabal of Papists is taking over the Republican Party.

Part of the criticism is the Catholic and Orthodox Church's rejection of Christian Zionism as supported by the Evangelical churches. Actually the non-Evangelical Protestant Churches also reject Christian Zionism. Christian Zionism is the theology that Israel has a role in the "End Times" and that the Bible requires Christians to support Israel.

The theory also links it to Tucker Carlson, who is not even a Catholic (he's an Episcopalian, the Anglican church in the US). The Protestant churches that are more common in Europe are now a small minority in the US. There are about 1 million Episcopalians, Presbyterians and maybe 500,000 Lutherans in the US. There are about 75 million Catholics and maybe 75-80 million Evangelicals.

This is what the conspiracy theory posted by "Insurrection Barbie" on X says:

……..For most of Christian history, the dominant theological position regarding the Jewish people was supersessionism — Replacement Theology: the belief that the Christian Church has superseded the Jewish people as inheritor of God’s covenant promises. Under this view, the promises to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are now fulfilled in the Church, and the Jewish people have no ongoing special covenantal status.Evangelical Protestants, particularly in the dispensationalist tradition, explicitly reject this. They hold that Romans 11:1-2 is definitive — “Did God reject his people? By no means!” — and that the modern state of Israel represents the physical fulfillment of God’s ongoing covenant faithfulness.The operation running through Carlson, Fuentes, and Owens does not call itself Replacement Theology. When Tucker Carlson declares Christian Zionism a “brain virus” and a “dangerous heresy within Christianity,” he is mainstreaming supersessionism for millions of Americans who would never knowingly embrace it. When Fuentes cites Thomas Aquinas to argue that Jewish people have no ongoing spiritual role, he is deploying a medieval theological framework against the conviction that the Jewish people remain God’s covenant people.The goal is not to win the theological argument in academic journals. The goal is to make the evangelical position seem absurd, politicized, and corrupted to the rising generation. If defending Christian Zionism marks you as unsophisticated or manipulated, young people will quietly abandon it — not by formally converting to Replacement Theology, but by simply stopping to believe what their parents believed……….

“READ every word of this. It’s the best & most comprehensive explanation of what we’re fighting,” wrote Cruz in a social media post, linking to a conspiracy theory article which warned that a cabal of Catholics were turning the Republican Party into “a party with different gods” through a “ten-year project” to carry out “the replacement of evangelical Protestant political theology” with a “foreign” Catholic framework.

Cruz’s endorsement of the post sparked backlash from many Catholics on social media, including former members of President Donald Trump’s administration.

“A U.S. senator sharing a nearly 10k word AI-generated anti-Catholic screed,” reacted Daily Caller editor-in-chief Amber Duke, while Turning Point USA’s Gabe Guidarini tweeted, “The mask of ‘principle’ slips off and reveals the ugly, archaic anti-Catholic resentment within.”

Ted Cruz on X: "READ every word of this. It's the best & most comprehensive explanation of what we're fighting. @DefiyantlyFree" / X

More proof that the 🍊💩 and his magat disciples have no respect for women,

To summarize where we are currently

It seems Joe Kent has a bit of support on what he said about the cause of the war between Iran, Israel and Trump. A newspaper ran a story on the 24th of Feb which basically outlined what grounds would be used by Israel and Trump to justify it and more importantly stated that the grounds for a war were fake, that Iran did not possess the capability to make the nuclear weapons.

The journalist who wrote the story was on CNN earlier partly disagreed with Kent on what he gave as his reasons for resignation but agreed with Kent that the line Trump and Israel have fed the world is not true.

I am getting vibes from the Family and Govt service history of Kent that he'd most likely be from the America First part of MAGA, and not what I'd label as the Trump First section of MAGA. Both his parents are from the RC section of US Christianity. I think he fears Israel has dragged his country into a war of its making outside the best interests of the US, that Trump has being played by Israel through some people appointed by him to senior positions within his administration for two reasons; one being some of them have outplayed him and two, family ties….

One thing I do see about the US is that it is tearing itself apart with Internal Info Wars between the two parties followers and, separately, sections within the GOP itself. The internal GOP row is best displayed by the lack of honesty and candour of the Admin members called to testify before the Senate today, dodging without success the questions put to them throughout their performance answers.

I hope, for the sake of their country, that Trump throws them under the bus when he is faced with questions he cannot answer and they are no longer any use to him except as a delaying the inevitable tactic. That will prevent them from being in office to abuse their country any further.

St. Patrick’s Day is a public holiday for provincial employees in Newfoundland and Labrador.

There’s a Gerry Adam’s quote in there somewhere- for the life of me I can’t think what it is 🤪

It's all absolutely crazy.

America says it doesn't know what Israel is doing in advance, Israel disagrees, there's no cohesion between the two, Trump has no off ramp, no real achievable goal, and things are escalating

Israel contend that America DID know

All while England in the last 24 hours say that Iran was playing ball and progress was made with talks when the US decided to bomb them.

The supposed goal of Trump doing this was to boost his popularity, which hasn't happened. Instead, it's the opposite and MAGA are infighting, with Megyn Kelly, MTG taking one side and Trump the other.

Meanwhile Carlson claiming he may be arrested on Bogus charges, and Trump's FBI has opened a leak investigation into Joe Kent, the former top intelligence official who just resigned in protest over the Iran war.