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US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,614 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Indeed, it could be argued that this decline was already well underway with the rise of the rise of the Global South, but the American public (in their infinite wisdom) twice electing a reality TV show 'personality' and failed businessman has rapidly accelerated this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 554 ✭✭✭midlander12


    Can't offhand see a post on this yet - he would be a big loss, if confirmed - rumoured to be the power behind the throne at least since Khamenei Snr's demise.

    Iran’s security chief, Ali Larijani, killed in airstrike, Israel says | Iran | The Guardian



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,628 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    That's the sad and harsh reality of it, Rogber. After Donnie said Israel wont use a nuke, i thought to myself even if they did what would the EU do bar issuing a statement expressing the utmost concern and the important of international law. Kier might also warn that Israel is at risk of breaking international law.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,628 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    I posted about that already. The Times of Israel reported it earlier on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,170 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    The laundry fire aboard the USS Gerald Ford really is a very curious incident.
    The USN is broadly acknowledged to have the best damage control systems, training and capabilities in the world.
    Indeed one of the reasons behind the cancellation of the Constellation class frigates, is that despite the huge weight growth over the original FREMM design, that the USN weren't confident in it's being as resilient as US designs without further modification.

    So,the laundry fire that burned for 30hrs, injured 2 and forced 600 out of their bunks?
    Really must have been an incredible combination of circumstances.
    The ignition, fuel and inability to control it for 30hrs?
    Just what are USN uniforms made of?
    Surely flame retardant material...
    So what was burning?

    Now couple that with OSINT chatter that the carriers were pulled further back from shore.
    The confirmed news that the USS Nimitz is being returned to service for another year, despite being paid off and on its way to the mothball fleet?

    It implies a very different set of circumstances that amount to at the very least,the fire caused enough damage to force the USN to postpone decommissioning of the Nimitz to keep an 11 carrier navy viable.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 554 ✭✭✭midlander12




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,628 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    They also apparently killed the head of the Basji unit. I wonder- assuming it is true- is this down to signal intelligence or a human source. Perhaps a combination of the two? Iran can only decentralise the leadership so much. I also wonder might these attacks be setting the stage for an internal coup or for more moderate voices to gain ascendency?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,286 ✭✭✭jackboy


    A fire in a confined space can reach incredible temperatures even with limited fuel. I doubt all items such as sheets and towels would be flame retardant. It could simply be down to such a fire not occurring before so appropriate prevention and response design was not in place.

    There would be many risk vs cost decisions made designing such a huge vessel and many risks would not be covered as probability of such risks occurring would be deemed low.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,828 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Israwel seem to be following the Nixon approach to the Iranian power structure (excerpt from the Oliver stone movie, referencing special prosector Archibald Cox)

    NIXON Cox! Fire him.

    HAIG But he works for the Attorney General. Only Richardson can fire him

    NIXON Then tell Richardson to fire him.

    HAIG Richardson won't do that. He'll resign.

    NIXON The hell he will! Fire him too. If you have to go all the way down to the janitor at the Justice Department, fire the sonufabitch

                                


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,523 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed



    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124318971#Comment_124318971


    You guys are funny, you were willing to accept a post saying that carrier was in Jeddah port, but you aren't willing to accept a publicly available source that shows a supply aircraft departing towards open sea and therefore landing at the ship at sea.

    So let me give you this FB photo instead, see its not there.

    IMG_0042.jpeg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,170 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    The requirements for FR uniforms, bedding and ancillaries such as curtains on board USN ships are specific and rigourous.
    Yes, fire in a contained space can reach seriously high temperatures.
    But?
    On a warship, that is compartmentalized and when intact, capable of shutting compartments off on a watertight and smoke tight basis as part of damage control?
    The oxygen is easily removed and the fire starved in conjunction with fire fighting and damage control teams.
    That the fire burned 30hrs, points to there being some failure of compartmentalization that allowed the fire continued access to air/oxygen.
    Did the damage control teams fail to compartmentalise properly and close off air ingress?
    Or was the compartment unable to be sealed due to some other damage?

    The laundry would be one of the points identified in the damage control planning as somewhere where an ignition could well spark a fire and as such, it is one of the areas that are most often trained out in fire control on large ships.

    On a ship that is designed to allow even the hangar deck to be divided and compartmented by folding walls to ensure fuel fires and similar are quickly controlled via starvation and foam.
    The fact a fire burned for 30hrs points to a failure far more serious that non flame retardant towels.

    There are rumours swirling that the Ford's air group will be disembarked.
    Perhaps to Crete, speaks to quite a high degree of damage.
    The Nimitz wasn't returned to service on a whim, it's own air group has already been transferred the USA Reagan so the question that arises?
    Is what air group will the Nimitz now operate?
    Logic points to it being the USA Ford's which means a laundry fire has taken the USN's newest & biggest ship out of service



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,279 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Can you point out where I stated anything was in Jeddah port? You posted a screenshot of flightradar and claimed it was a photo proving something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    Shocking.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/17/uk-security-adviser-attended-us-iran-talks-and-judged-deal-was-within-reach

    The UK had an advisor in the last meeting and confirms that the talks were going well and Iran was offering a lot in concessions.

    Netanyahu, Trump, Kushner, and Witkoff, are traitors to the human race. They should be blasted into space.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,438 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Joe Kent Director of the National Counterterrorism Center resigns from his position. Sounds like Trump's middle east policy especially Iran is the reason for his decision.

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,643 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    usaf busy.
    17 stratotankers

    2 lancers

    IMG_2041.jpeg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭Marty Bird


    Was there talk about sailors were deliberately causing the sewage system blockages with stuffing shirts in the toilets?

    🌞6.02kWp⚡️3.01kWp South/East⚡️3.01kWp West



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,523 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Breaking news. Senior US Intelligence official Joe Kent has resigned due to "serious misgivings" about the war. Says that Iran posed no imminent threat to the US and blamed the war on the powerful Israeli lobby in the US. Kent was a political appointee of Trump or Gabbard, so he can't say its the "deep state".

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/03/17/joe-kent-resigns-iran-war/

    Israel claims to have killed Iran's security chief Ali Larijani. While a longtime regime insider and hardliner, but as a negotiator of the JCPOA (which Trump scrapped in his first term) was in recent years viewed as more pragmatic insofar as the regime has pragmatists.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,170 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Yep, apparently the toilets were unreliable and prone to blockage.
    The scuttlebutt was that after been extended past 8 months (entering 10 months now) deployed that there was some deliberate acts of sabotage by a discontented crew.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 554 ✭✭✭midlander12


    Well that's been the suggestion all along, but it hasn't happened yet. I was surprised Larijani appeared in public last week as I would have thought he was the one guy they'd try to protect at all costs. The President hasn't been touched yet, whether there is any significance to that I don't know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 554 ✭✭✭midlander12


    Yeah but the janitor is the one manning the missiles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Trump treats allies with disdain, but still expects their support. Its narcissistic behaviour. A diplomatic equivalent of Theo and Todd from Coronation Street.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 554 ✭✭✭midlander12


    Judging by the BBC report, Kent was pure MAGA, of the anti-intervention variety. His wife (also CIA) was killed in a suicide bombing in Syria in 2019.

    Additionally, Kent alleged that "high-ranking Israeli officials" and influential US journalists had sowed "misinformation" that caused Trump to undermine his "America First" platform.

    "This echo was used to deceive you into believing that Iran posted an imminent threat to the United States," the letter continued. "This was a lie."

    Ouch.

    Top US counterterrorism official resigns over Iran war



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,703 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Given that Hezbullah was similarly violating the terms of the agreement every day and UNIFIL certainly didn't seem to be helping, it does seem that the Israeli actions were, at the worst, not one-sided.

    The agreement, if you haven't read it. https://www.peaceagreements.org/media/documents/IL_LB_241126_Announcement_of_a_Cessation_of_Hostilities_and_Related_Commitments.pdf

    What is the purpose of the Hezbullah armed wing? If it is to protect Lebanon (and the Lebanese government don't want Hezbullah protection), then launching a barrage (with assets they were not supposed to have, per the agreement) with the stated reason being "retaliation […for the assassination of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei] unjustly and treacherously killed by the criminal Zionist enemy" has completely made a mockery of that concept. It's more Iran's armed wing in the Israel area. Lebanon wants to be left alone, and has this rebel child under poor influence repeatedly poking the local bear.

    It's gotten to the point that Lebanon is trying to talk directly to Israel for the first time in a half-century.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2026/03/17/iran-us-war-lebanon-israel-hezbollah-negotiations/8b9128b4-2200-11f1-954a-6300919c9854_story.html

    Israel and Lebanon are actually on pretty reasonable terms, I've seen officers from both armies attending the same courses in the US, the US is the largest sponsor of the Lebanese military. Israel has been sharing intelligence with Lebanon for the last year as the Lebanese military has been trying to disarm Hezbullah, which is a job UNIFIL is supposed to be helping the Lebanese government do (And after decades, has actually started doing so in the last half-year or so). Is there any reason that Lebanon would be any more at threat from Israel than Jordan or Egypt are if it were not for the existence of a rogue self-declared anti-Israel, Pro-Ayatollah armed force in Lebanon?

    There is a feeling in Hezbullah that this is going to be its last battle. It'll either cease to exist, or it'll "win", however they want to define 'winning.'

    https://www.arabnews.com/node/2636363/middle-east

    They may be right. Hezbullah is now weaker militarily, financially and politically than it has been in decades. Their primary sponsor is in its own existential fight right now. Without Iran, how dangerous is Hezbullah's armed organisation? Even if Iran's Islamic government holds, what spare attention can they give to Hezbullah? The Lebanese government has this month, after decades of unhappy tolerance, finally outlawed the Hamas military wing, with the current level of practical Iranian support combined with the new Syrian government's active hostility to Hezbullah, the Lebanese government may actually be able to do something about it, especially if UNIFIL helps.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Hmmm… make of it what you will. Hez can be a little bombastic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,202 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    He’s definitely a MAGA guy too. The blame game is very much underway. Here the Brits have a go:

    Britain’s national security adviser, Jonathan Powell, attended the final talks between the US and Iran and judged that the offer made by Tehran on its nuclear programme was significant enough to prevent a rush to war, the Guardian can reveal.

    Powell thought progress had been made in Geneva and that the deal proposed by Iran was “surprising”, according to sources.

    Two days after the talks ended, and after a date had been agreed for a further round of technical talks in Vienna, the US and Israel launched the attack on Iran.


    Kushner and Witkoff come in for a fair bit of slagging:

    Kushner and Witkoff had invited Rafael Grossi, the director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), to the Geneva talks, to provide technical expertise, though Kushner would later claim that he and Witkoff had “a pretty deep understanding of the issues that matter in this”. Nuclear experts would later say that Witkoff’s pronouncements on the Iran nuclear programme were riddled with basic errors.


    There’ll be a lot more of this before the jig is up. Ouch!

    One diplomat with knowledge of the talks said: “We regarded Witkoff and Kushner as Israeli assets that dragged a president into a war he wants to get out of.”

    Post edited by Ardillaun on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,776 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    Donny no friends

    France will never take part in operations to unblock Hormuz Strait amid hostilities, says Macron

    President Emmanuel Macron says France will never take part in operations to unblock the Strait of Hormuz, and that France is carrying on with work to prepare a coalition that could provide freedom of navigation once hostilities end.

    “We are not party to the conflict, and therefore France will never take part in operations to open or liberate the Strait of Hormuz in the current context,” Macron said at the start of a cabinet meeting to discuss the conflicts in the Middle East.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,279 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Stephen Flynn (SNP) on the BBC this morning



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,189 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Great work, and wiped the smug look of that guy's face. He should have also mentioned that diplomacy was working. The Scottish accent is powerful when rebuking someone.



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