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Calving 2026

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭BeGrand2025


    I did. Top is for the Super Grazing 50, bottom gun is for All Guard. You can see the size difference between the two and how the Super Grazing works as a single dose.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,981 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    8 left to calve here now, all heifers. Just jacked out one there now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭BeGrand2025


    I catch a few calves with waterbags on their heads every season, just did one there. I find kitchen gloves with good grip are the best thing for handling calves(not the cow obviously). They don’t slide when you grab a leg to pull them out of the bag, seconds are crucial when you brave a pen with a freshly calved cow so get one chance. Much tighter fit than rubber or examination gloves so you can also easily pull the waterbag off their face

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    On calving supplies i see a lot of YouTube videos of guys using the spray for iodine. I’ve never liked it and get better results using a plastic medicine jar. Just feed the navel in and shake while it’s pushed up. It’s a better guarantee the navel part the body sucks in is iodined fully. I do calves again the next day but you need quiet cows to do it.

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    And i find Sudacrem is the best thing after dehorning. It stays in the wound and they heal faster compared to any spray or powder I’ve tried.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭limo_100


    I used to do the idione the same way but went for the green stuff now prob better to do it ur way ordinary iodine then spray with the green stuff stop the cow licking it.

    Also I do the same with the sudocream fill the hole and then put sliver spray on it. I actually worked with a guy from the sudocream factory after it closed a few years ago was telling him about it how quick it heals up. He swears by the stuff



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,037 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    First calf of the year born tonight. I've been keeping a eye on the cow (AUxFR) for the last few nights. She had a healthy bull calf. The calf was up sucking when I saw them - dipped it's navel and gave him a At Birth Tube - Happy days.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,981 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    The health service have moved away from using sudocreme for some reason. We were bringing it into tje hospital for oh to put on himself and they said cavilon is what they use now. I think sudocreme is great



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭endainoz


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    First calf born today, Angus bull, homebred Shorthorn cross, calfed down at 23 months. Pretty happy with the result.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭Sugarbowl


    lovely heifer @endainoz was that an AI angus bull you used?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Nope bought an Angus bull last summer, landed the first week of June. Evidently he got to work immediately 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭BeGrand2025


    Had a heifer break across 3 fields last year to get served by the stock bull. I was worried cause he carries an NT821 gene which throws large calves in the older cows. Small bit of assistance at the head but all fine, must have got the F gene instead thankfully.


    I remember as a young lad a breeder dropped off the new AA bull. He went down the ramp of the trailer, into the group of heifers and served one. Barely on the farm a few minutes. There’s little messing with angus.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭Irish Beef


    I have an old cow just after calving twin heifers, she is back on the milk on other years, I'm think of talking one of the heifers off her and bottle feeding as don't think she'll have enough milk for two. What do people think. Second calf born about half hour ago. A bit yellow so could have been stressed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,769 ✭✭✭High bike


    Nice to get the 2 heifers,id give her a couple of litres of beastings if u have it and chance her with the cow for a few days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭limo_100


    lash her with dairy nuts aswel 3kg twice a day ud be surprised how she changes. Even if she just reared the two of the for a month calf would be stronger to come off. Also you could get a tit feeder and give both calves 2litres of milk replacer aswel if she doesn’t put up much



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,800 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    My worst milking cow is just after having a set of twin heifers a few minutes ago too. Beastings thawing now whatever I will do with them tomorrow. She can badly rare one on a good year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭Sugarbowl


    it has happened to me a few times too. A non milky cow having twins. I tend to take one off the cow earlier rather than letting it go too long. It can be hard to change over to a bottle when they get too used to sucking a cow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    If she’s going to be running with other cows and calves, I’d let her off with the two. The calf will often find another cow to let them suck in the field.

    Worst case, you could try to give her a bit of dairy nuts in the field (not simple though as all cows will want a bit)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭adne


    Cash them in at 500 a head and cash her in. You'll have more than enough to buy a milky cow :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,800 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    It would have been the sensible thing to do but not at 500 🤣. Anyway a little Jersey cow in milk for 960 and an angus bull calf for 350 was the solution rightly or wrongly.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,359 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    Dont make the mistake we made wth your Jersey, let her out with suckler cows. She came in heat, and they flattened her, did the splits.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Sami23


    Seen in one of Crawford Farms recent videos where he was castrating his calves with rubber rings used for lambs tails. Karen Moynihan also does this and going by weights of her yearlings it is not having any adverse affect on them.

    So just wondering do many on here use those rings to castrate calves or do ye leave them and squeeze later ?

    Appreciate this doesn't apply to anyone selling as weanlings.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭dowlerswozere


    Yep Ive been doing it a few years now works out the finest for us balls just fall off eventually. Any AI Bred stock we sell as bulls but stock of the Stock bull is ringed at 1 to 2 weeks old never had any issue and much safer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭BeGrand2025


    Grange did a big study castrating bulls at 3-4 months and found it made no difference to weight gain compared doing them at 6-7 months. The interesting outcome was that they were less stressed(cortisol levels) and recovered quicker when done younger. A study now doing the calves under a month old would be very interesting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Sami23




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,209 ✭✭✭White Clover


    I do it to any bull calves born to bought in heifers that are supposed to be dry. Do it at less than a week old.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,060 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Give her a calcium bolus now and it'll help her come in milk. Just be aware the calcium bolus is a big bolus and you'd need the appropriate gun for the bolus too.

    Old cows can be low in calcium reserves. The cow could have a touch of milk fever with twins too. You'll be covering more than one base.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭BeGrand2025


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    First XL calf in a while. Pictures don’t get across the size of him. He’s in the top 3 biggest I’ve had on the farm. She’s a tall BB x HE cross and the sire is an Aubrac with an NT gene. A small bit of help at the head. Bit of help standing but had to be held up cause he was too heavy to hold his own weight. Front left leg was knuckling but slowly coming right and trying to jump around the pen this evening. Feels like I’ve climbed a mountain getting him to feed from the cow but the hard work is done. 


    That Dovea Beef webinar brought up a very good point that certain cows will never need or even handle more than an easy calving bull because they’ve got big muscle genes on their end. They will always throw a big calf and introducing NT and Q genes will cause problems. 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    I’ve been doing it for about 5-6 years or so. Game changer compared to squeezing 6-7 month hardy young bulls. I tag, dehorn and put on ring at the same time and average of 5 days old. They never go over 7 days.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Sami23


    Thanks for that - will definitely give it a go this year based on feedback.

    Don't think mine would have much horns to do at less than a week old though here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    just make sure you put on the ring above the two stones. You’ll get the odd one that thr stones won’t have dropped and you just have to skip that one. Others can take a bit of time working on it to get both stones down but practice will sort that.

    I’d definitely never go back to squeezing weanlings again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,267 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    @Sami23 ringing bull calves here for the past 10 years. So much easier to do it in the first week compared to getting pole axed at 6 months. I just do it when tagging can't miss it then and you are already catching the calf. No set back or lack of thrive because its done so soon.

    Buy the way the only legal time it ring castrating can be done by a farmer is before 7 days of age. No need for pain relief.

    Vet can't get over why more farmers who are keeping stores or them for the hook don't don't.

    It has made sucklers easier as bills can be kept with heifers weanlings with no worries



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