"Green" policies are destroying this country

Was this post intended for someone else and you sent it to me by mistake ?

Other than that I have no idea why you would send it to me as I have not at any stage mentioned anything about the economics of fossil fuels. I have said I am all in favour of a net-zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050 and that means no fossil fuel use in generation. I have also said that like major green advocacy groups I look on the idea of substituting wood burning for fossil fuels is a con in that it might as well be coal where emission levels are concerned.

If someone has concerns on the data provided by another poster and are questioning it, then they need to show where they believe the data is incorrect. Posting vague insults and nothing else just makes them look a bit of a dick.

On economic points, economically the path we are on if continued will be a financial disaster for both citizens and the state and there really is no difference to our domestic economy whether we are paying outside providers for renewables or fossil fuels for our electricity.

We are now also importing electricity where the volume has been rising year on year. For 2025 our net imports were 14.6% of our total demand. That is not doing anything for our domestic economy or our energy security.

This thread has gone full strawman.

Mainstream is owned by Aker Horizons (Norwegian), and apparently are shortly moving their headquarters to Oslo.

Energia is owned by Ardian (French private equity firm)

Enerpower is owned by KKR (American private equity fund, also involved in that giant Gas pipeline running through native american land a few years ago)

Solar 21 and Harmony are one of the many little developer companies pushing their weight around rural communities up and down the county at the moment. Secures planning and sells off to bigger players such as Statkraft and Energia. Ironically fairly instrumental in turning many communities against the idea of climate change, let alone renewables.

Solar 21 funding comes from retail and other unregulated products. Several projects currently in liquidation or insolvency process.

Harmony funding unknown as not publically disclosed.

Power Capital primary funding from Eiffel Investment Group (French) and Ethias Insurance Group (Belgium).

Sounds like a very solid structure we are building all this upon.

I have only become interested in all this fairly recently, due talking with friends and family members in various areas of the country, who have lately had the pleasure of having one of these shitebag 'green' developers inflicted on their communities.

It is like a wild west out there at the moment, and rural communities are paying the price.

Finding the current frenzy to be very similar to the housing developers in around 2006/7.

The idea that some people think that sticking 'Green' in front our you name makes you as pure as the driven snow, is quite irritating.

You think that building our enwrgy production system around institutional investors and foreign power companies is a good idea?

Our primary source of energy in the hands of companies who are beholden to their shareholders and investors, not the irish people?

Investors and shareholders who will want a return on their investment, year on year growth were possible.

Tell me, when do you think this results in cheaper electricity prices.

When do we end up with an Enron of our own.

The irish government wont be able to go against these companies, they will literally hold the power.

This is not energy diversity.

We will be reliant on the whims of large companies tp provide the enrgy at the price they wish.

It will be no different than relying entirely on gas, or on oil, or on coal.

The average 50mw farm, after all the social, environmental, and ecological damage it creates, generates around 1-2 million euro in profit each year. You think that those investors are going to be satisfied with that return.

It would be no different to handing over our primary energy generation to Shell or Exxon - we would still be at the mercy of their whims.

If you're arguing for state owned resources. It's a nice idea but that ship sailed long ago.

"…Ireland's energy import dependency was approximately 79.6% in 2024, marking an increase from 78.3% in 2023. The country relies heavily on imports for fossil fuels, importing 100% of its oil and coal, along with about 79.5% of its natural gas. While renewable energy use is increasing, Ireland remains well above the EU average for energy import dependency..."

Indeed you have not.

But then you have been very quick off the mark attempting to rubbish any economic data posted by anyone else in relation to our current 2050 plan, and have refused any time you have been asked to provide any detail as to what level of wind, solar or any other renewables and at what cost you believe will provide us with an economically viable net-zero greenhouse gas emissions grid by 2050.

When it comes to electricity generation we have gone from being net exporters in 2020 too net importers. In 2025 net imports were 14.6% of our demand needs. A percentage that has been rising year on year giving us less control not more.

In 2021 both Eirgrid and the CRU warned Eamon Ryan, the then Minister with responsibility, that energy security was becoming a problem but he just ignored them.

It's a little disappointing you can't accurately calculate the break even point to three decimal places of an unproven, experimental energy plan and world energy supply and global events over a quarter of a century. Get it together man.

If you do work it out let us know. Might be worth buying a few shares in it, if you can predict the future.

Oh and there's should be all least one version of your calculations that factors in solar production in a nuclear winter.