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US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    Technically Israel attacked Hamas personnel not Qataris.

    In contrast to that, the Iranian attacks on their neighbours have been more generic, and their attacks on shipping in particular have been on neutral countries all over the world. I take you agree that Iran has no justification for those.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,181 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    That’s exactly the excuse Iran use.

    Israel killed a Qatari soldier.

    Was it a war crime or not?

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,189 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,202 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    On MSNOW, former deputy Secretary of State, Wendy Sherman, just used the Israeli term, ‘mowing the lawn’, to speak about dealing with Iran. A clumsy use of words best avoided.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    2 tankers hit by Iranian explosive laden boats in Iraqi waters and are on fire in the gulf.

    So much for trump telling tankers to crack on and use the strait of Hormuz.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,278 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Well why would they even pay attention to the orange moron?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,202 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    The American missile strike on the school is undermining US credibility at this stage. They should admit it and apologize.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,202 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    During negotiations and on Qatari soil. Anyway, what suits a tiny state like Israel may not be a good fit for an open, multiethnic superpower that will need friends globally if it is to have any hope of containing a rising China.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,181 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Iran now threatening to close Bab-al-Mandab strait via the Houthis.
    Oil prices are going to climb again as markets realise Trumps words do not affect reality.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,202 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    I thought the Houthis were going to sit this one out.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,278 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    No, they should explain what was the chain of command that decided the school should be targetted and the people involved be prosecuted



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 8,113 Mod ✭✭✭✭circadian


    They want this. Recent history has shown that major economic shocks create massive opportunities for transfer of wealth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭goldsparkle


    That's unreal.

    Iran is serious and means real business and America and Ideal keeps poking it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,344 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    God , imagine Turkey were still a candidate for EU membership . The war would be fought in our country



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭omega man




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,181 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭Iecrawfc




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    What's this supposed to mean? I'm struggling to follow the logic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,718 ✭✭✭Jeff2




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,985 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    over 90% of Turkey is located on the continent of Asia so fûck knows how or why they ever qualified for consideration for accession into the EU. Still a candidate country the process is just suspended at present.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,613 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Israeli analysts suggest the IDF is hugely stretched by having to fight a war on two fronts. Also, missiles coming from the north (Lebanon) and simultaneously from the east (Iran) is something their air defences are not at all used to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    Maybe not absolute nonsense after all??

    https://abcnews.com/US/fbi-warns-iran-aspired-attack-california-drones-retaliation/story?id=130973820

    The FBI warned police departments in California in recent days that Iran could retaliate for American attacks by launching drones at the West Coast, according to an alert reviewed by ABC News.

    “We recently acquired information that as of early February 2026, Iran allegedly aspired to conduct a surprise attack using unmanned aerial vehicles from an unidentified vessel off the coast of the United State Homeland, specifically against unspecified targets in California, in the event that the US conducted strikes against Iran,” according to the alert distributed at the end of February. “We have no additional information on the timing, method, target, or perpetrators of this alleged attack.”

    That sounds assuring - "I think"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    I'm expecting some ships will be hit along Israel's coast by the end of the week to try and force the same insurance issues there. They've said they will attack ports if their ports are attacked so somewhere like Haifa might be worth firing some missiles at.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    Brent just shot from $93 to $99. Markets seem to be reacting to Iran striking ships and the US Navy saying they are not ready to provide escorts because it is too risky.

    I don't see any chance that Iran will be neutered somehow in the next week or two. This is the quagmire every other US president was aware of.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-navy-tells-shipping-industry-hormuz-escorts-not-possible-now-2026-03-10/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,202 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    There’s all that there too. I’m merely commenting on what would be in America’s own interests. The longer they pretend there’s any doubt about who did it the worse they look. An apology would be a start.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,202 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    Any overstretch is their own fault. Their war on Lebanon is way overdone for the threat coming from there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,202 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    If Erdoğan loses next time round they could start putting the country back on track but it will be a long road. The EU already struggles to deal with the Eastern European countries it took on, especially Hungary. I don’t think a large new member bordering Iran is really on the cards for a while.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,057 ✭✭✭thomil


    That depends. It’s an atrocity either way, but war crimes do require intent. If the US struck the Minab school knowing that it was, in fact, a school, then yes, it is a war crime. However, if the building was struck based on out-of-date intelligence (wouldn’t be the first time that’s happened, Chinese embassy in Belgrade, anyone?), or some issue in the missile’s terminal guidance system caused it to lock onto the wrong building in the Minab complex, that’s a different story. In either case, it's a horrific atrocity and people should be held accountable.

    It’s important to understand how weapons systems like the RGM-109 Tomahawk or the AGM-86 ALCM are targeted. These weapons do not have an ongoing link to their launch platform, there’s no operator “flying” these things to their target. Prior to launch, these weapons are programmed with a map of the terrain features along their route, as well as a detailed map of the layout of the target. After launch, they use a combination of inertial navigation, GPS, and terrain following radar to fly along their route, before switching to an infrared/radar/electro-optical sensor for the final approach, what I called “terminal guidance” above. An error in any of these stages can cause the missile to diverge from its intended target and strike a building it was not meant to strike.

    Then, there’s the issue of intelligence, which is where I personally believe the error occurred. The girls’ school in Minab sits right next to a complex used as an HQ for the Asaf Brigade of the naval branch of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard. The HQ is a legitimate target under the rules of war. Crucially, the building housing the school was part of the HQ until at least 2013. I've checked this myself on Google Earth, as you can see from the images below.

    Minab - 2013.png

    This is how the area looked in Google Earth in January 2013. The area marked in yellow is the school that was struck. As you can see, it is clearly a part of the HQ complex, there are no barriers of any type separating it from the rest of the HQ.

    Minab - 2016.png

    This image dates to 2016. Apart from the fact that the entire HQ complex seems to be in far better nick, we can see that the school is now separated from the HQ by a wall, indicating that at some point between 2013 and 2016, that part of the complex was "spun off". However, it's not quite that straightforward.

    645785754_919453230833178_3109891798803059448_n.jpg

    This is a screenshot of how the complex looked in OSM until a few days ago. It has since been edited to reflect the actual situation but you can see that the entire complex, including the school, are marked as a military area. So the intelligence picture is muddled.

    There's also the fact that Minab doesn't strike me as a particularly important location. Granted, it's a base of the IRGC, and a HQ at that, but it's not the type of place where you're going to have non-stop surveillance or intelligence agents on the ground. Especially not when you have a much bigger target, Bandar Abbas with its air and naval bases, just fifty kilometres away. My personal suspicion is that during the planning for the strike, the planning staff simply pulled a list of known IRGC locations, checked whether there was anything particularly unusual visible in recent satellite images, anything unusual about it online, and when that came back clean, marked it as a valid target and sent that on to the respective US Navy planning department to develop the terrain maps for the Tomahawks, which would then be sent on down the chain of command to whichever ship or submarine was assigned that particular target for them to upload into the missile. Mind you, this all happened weeks, if not months before the missiles were launched.

    Having written all that, I don't think we can completely rule out a terminal guidance issue either. Take a look at the image below, which I got from U.M., a German language OSINT blog run by a guy called Joey Hoffmann, a military intelligence analyst and Bundeswehr veteran with decades of experience. I honestly don't like using this, but there doesn't seem to be a way for me to get a hand on the original image that Planet Labs published a few days back.

    647389991_922773683834466_1617577236857569861_n-2.jpg

    Anyway, this shows the aftermath of the strike on Minab. We can see that several buildings in the HQ complex have been struck. You'll see that the impacts on many of the buildings are right in the middle of the structure. That's because the cruise missiles used for the attack flew a "pop up" manoeuvre, gaining altitude before diving down to strike the target from above and penetrate deep inside before detonating. This isn't unique to the Tomahawk, most cruise missiles do this. Ukraine's Flamingo cruise missile demonstrated their capability to do that in a strike against a Russian missile plant a week or two ago.

    However, if you look at the school building, the damage looks completely different. Over half of the building is gone. To me, this looks like the missile struck the building at a much shallower angle. This could have been a deliberate choice by the missile's onboard computer, or it could indicate that something happened during final approach to the target that made it impossible to do the pop up manoeuvre.

    Once again, that does not absolve the attacker of responsibility for their actions, and it does not change the fact that this was a horrible atrocity. It also does not change the fact that this is a blatant war of aggression, a flagrant violation of international law, and a clusterf*ck for the ages! Let me be very clear, because I know this comes up in this thread a lot, I am horrified by the actions of both the US and Israel, even if I do consider Iran a very real danger to the region.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/oil-storage-facilities-hit-omans-salalah-port-ambrey-state-tv-say-2026-03-11/

    Port in Oman on fire from drone strikes. America not able to protect its "allies" whatsoever.

    I think this will forever change Middle Eastern politics. These countries will know that as long as Israel is itching for war with Iran, which will basically be forever, they are at risk of fallout.

    As Strazdas mentioned, maybe Israel will come out of this being seen as an actual liability rather than an asset. The GCC want stability and wealth. Israel wants expansion and war.



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