Advertisement
Help Keep Boards Alive. Support us by going ad free today. See here: https://subscriptions.boards.ie/.
https://www.boards.ie/group/1878-subscribers-forum

Private Group for paid up members of Boards.ie. Join the club.
Hi all, please see this major site announcement: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058427594/boards-ie-2026

Liverpool FC Premier League Champions 25/26 - Talk /Gossip/Rumours

1126512661268127012711342

Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭jesuisjuste


    I think for Salah he would have a fair bit still to give, and with a solid supply I would expect he should be hitting mid-teens in goals still. However he's certainly not worth his current salary, and in addition if we were offered a decent price it might be worth considering selling him.

    Middle East may still be viable for him since he's Egyptian and wouldn't be as concerned about the current war etc., however I'm not sure if there is still money to be had there. Overall I don't even know what he's worth anymore, £50-60M perhaps.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,600 ✭✭✭IncognitoMan


    You think a 34 year old Salah coming off a highly questionable season is going to be worth £50m+ ?
    On top of his massive wages?

    I don't see anyone who pays both, not even Saudi.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,844 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    It's easy to pile on Slot and all that but I still think we need to be clear about the CL achievements.

    No matter the number of league wins/games the new format throws up, we haven't yet got passed the last 16.

    Coming top two in our four team group under the previous format (and hence last 16 qualification) was the absolute bare minimum expected and we haven't failed to do that since 2008 IIRC.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,218 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    Not even entirely blaming Liverpool for this but I just feel so bad for Elliott this season, completely fcuked around by mis-management and has had a year of his career wasted at 22 years old (having already lost a year to a broken ankle).

    He's played 110 minutes of Premier League football this season.

    James Milner has played 261 minutes since turning 40 in January.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭brevity


    I think there are a lot of explanations for the poor season. Jota, Salah getting older, a lot of changes not introduced correctly so I think he will be fine elsewhere.

    Maybe he got lucky last season or maybe he has found a niche, minor tweaks to a solid group of players and success.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,438 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    Every passing game really drives home how poorly conditioned the players are this season.

    It takes them a while to get up to the speed of games, every game. It's like they really struggle to move through the gears from the offset.

    And then they click, and look great for a while. Chances start to reign in, the passing is crisper, there is some proper movement and injection of speed.

    And then nothing more. No more upwards shift in gears, no extra level, and they can't sustain it. They tire out. There is no comeback to a setback it there is any.

    And look, we all know that there is a massive mitigating factor as why the pre season was a disaster. But it really is long lasting from a physicality point of view, let alone a mental point of view.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,174 ✭✭✭54and56


    Elliott himself is also to blame, he knew the deal before he signed it and the risk chose to take i.e. that he'd play more than 10 PL games to trigger the move unfortunately landed. No one forced him to agree to the deal. I've no doubt his intentions were good and he felt if he got the games he'd more than prove his worth to Villa but as with all deals the devil is in the detail and if he din't pay attention to or undertand the detail that's on him becuase the consequences have fallen mostly on him through lack of playing time. LFC also rolled the dice to offload him and lost so will likely have to take a financial hit if another club comes in for him in the summer.

    Lose lose for player and club. Not smart by either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭jesuisjuste


    Yeh, I forgot about the wages actually, almost nobody can afford that. I would say without wages he'd still command a fair transfer price, but perhaps 50M is too much, as I said I don't really have a clue, it's a pretty unique situation really. Middle East is less likely these days, MLS is probably a no go as he wouldn't have the fanbase there really. PSG/Real/Bayern could prob afford wages, but he'd be too slow for them too.

    If he doesn't go to Saudi we might be having to hold on to him for another 2 years, and if his form doesn't pick up, then that contract will be seen as a fair f*ck up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭jesuisjuste


    Nah Elliot really got shafted though. He was likely told he needed to move, and he wouldn't have had much leverage over the contract at all I would say. He figured he would give it his all, and that would be good enough, but Villa had other ideas, and somewhat screwed him over too. It's a complete sh*tshow, lets be real.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,189 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    I've said it before and have been jumped on for it, but it was a mistake to move Elliot on, just as it was a mistake to move Quansah on.

    The biggest mistake was letting Kelliher go - he should have been promised no.1 from next season. Allison is getting on and breaking down.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,174 ✭✭✭54and56


    Well if Elliott (or anyone else for that matter) relies of being "told" by one of the parties to a contract with a vested interest what's in it and he didn't read the contract or have his agent / solicitor read and explain it to him before he willingly signed it then that's even more reason why the outcome is on him. You don't sign a contract if you don't understanding what's in it and/or hope its something it turns out not to be. That's like closing your eyes, crossing your fingers and crossing the road and then blaming the driver when you are knocked down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,443 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Having Kelliher this season would have made almost zero difference.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,189 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    I'm not talking about this season in particular. Kelliher could be a top number one for us for a decade. A very young, but already proven premier league keeper. Ship has sailed anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,136 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    he was out of contract this summer, wouldn’t sign a new one, and was desperate to play first team ball. They did well even convincing him to stay last season tbh.

    So I don’t think telling him to play the waiting game for yet another year would’ve flown - the choice was to make him number 1 for this year ahead of Alisson, or let him go.

    And who knows, maybe that would’ve been the right thing to do, even with Ali still playing well, but it’s a much tougher decision than just keeping him around to take over down the line.

    Subscribe to save Boards.ie from closing down: The Bad News

    https://subscriptions.boards.ie/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭Dublin_Anthony_2025




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭Dublin_Anthony_2025


    Kelliher is brutal

    he's great at peno's no doubt , but he's far from a world beater



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,136 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭jesuisjuste


    He's certainly not brutal, but I would say middle of the pack as far as PL goalies go, prob top 10. Mamar seems to be at a similar level but maybe they see higher potential with him, so it's probably 6 of one.

    Also peno's are not to be sniffed at, having a good peno stopper will win a good few points a season, and also get you to the next round of a cup periodically. Statistically he's the best in the league so that would move him up in the overall ranking a little imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,189 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    So - controversial opinion - go with the young but already proven and experienced keeper with a bright future ahead of him than the (excellent) but old keeper who is suffering repeated injuries and playing progressively less games.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,443 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    of all the issues the team has, goalkeeper is pretty low down the list. Early days but Mamard doesn’t look like a massive step down from Kelliher.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,530 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    He's actually younger than Kelleher as well which I didn't realise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,443 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    He has the haunted eyes of a midlife divorcee.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,922 ✭✭✭Damien360


    As a result of sitting behind our back four for a game



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,617 ✭✭✭✭Cartman78


    Quansah looking decent against Arsenal so far...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,136 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    I mean I'm sure that was considered - but Alisson also isn't exactly old… at 33, for a keeper you'd expect his mobility to be the same for another 3 years. It's around 36 they tend to start getting a bit more physically limited. The injuries are a bigger issue though, so it all depends on how well the club medical folks reckon they can handle the hamstring issues.

    So I'd get it if they had decided to move on from him last summer, but with his actual goalkeeping still being excellent (arguably still best in the league), I'm not at all surprised they stuck with him - particularly when you factor in that they also saw the opportunity to bring in Mamardashvili, who's also a very strong number 2 with real potential to take over.

    Subscribe to save Boards.ie from closing down: The Bad News

    https://subscriptions.boards.ie/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,646 ✭✭✭robwen


    With no away fans for the second leg will the away section in Anfield be left empty or will the away end be available to Liverpool fans?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,438 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    Not selling Kelleher is the new not selling Diaz.

    Kelleher wanted to leave.

    Diaz wanted to leave.

    They both had to be sold. It's not possible to own every player, and keep every player happy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭bike2wkr


    Slot froze quansah and elliot out last season which forced them to move on. He has inability to manage a squad and keep players happy imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,913 ✭✭✭mormank


    Yeah but Diaz only wanted to leave cos we wouldn't pay him what he is worth. He probably tripled his wages at Bayern.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,438 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    The injuries seem to be really taking a toll on his agility, but really importantly, taking their toll on his ability to kick the ball.

    I remember years ago when Torres scored against Man Utd and he shot into the high near post area past VDS, when everyone expected him to across the keeper into the far bottom corner. He later came out and said that it was the only place in the goal that he could shoot into, as the pain limited his options.

    The Spain striker, who easily brushed off a challenge from Rio Ferdinand before beating United goalkeeper Edwin van der Sar at the near post, added: "I feel a bit of pain when I shoot across so I could only shoot towards the near post — it was the only thing I could do."

    I wonder does Ali have a similar pain type thing, or limitation when kicking the ball? And might explain some of his recent wayward passing.



Advertisement
Advertisement