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National Hurling Leagues 2026

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 36,920 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Absolutely. But I like the way Ben is moving players around and not playing the best 15 in the league. Our championship defence probably haven't started a game, he's even swapped the keeper a few times, which is no harm at all as he is seen as a weak link.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    Antrim are currently on the one win in Division 1B. The expenses Davy Fitz is getting paid from the Antrim county board certainly is proving to be money well spent.🤣 It's a shame really because i'd love to see Antrim make the big breakthrough someday.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    So Cork have gone from being derided and berated for being a bunch of Walter the softies, to being derided and berated for being a bunch of filthy thugs. There's just no pleasing some people is there?

    With Kilkenny under Cody and Limerick in more recent years it's was hurling is a man's game, toughen up etc. With Cork the same people turn into a bunch of Helen Lovejoy like moaning Karen's. Oh just spare me this hysterical and hypocritical horseshit please.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭Pablo Escobar


    Only 1 team have conceded less than Cork, and that’s Tipperary, who have a total of 7 points fewer conceded, but also have played 1 less game. When will this Cork delusion end? :D



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 887 ✭✭✭eastie17


    cork won’t nessecarily get over the line, losing aifs can become a habit that’s hard to break. If Ben gets to the final and doesn’t win it this year, the happy leesiders won’t be long turning and it can be hard to turn it around



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 36,920 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Ben will get plenty of time. Let's not forget, Ben has a habit of winning All Ireland Finals, that can be a hard habit to break too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    Well the second half of the all Ireland final last year was as bad as it's ever likely to get, yet the Cork public didn't turn on the players. All most Cork fans want for now is to make it out of Munster and that's not a certainty by any means.

    If we do make it out of Munster then we'll take it from there. People were probably asking questions about Kilkenny as well after losing all Irelands in 1998 and 1999, and Limerick prior to 2018 had an infamous (and at times hilarious) reputation for imploding, self destructing in and bottling big games, and other off field shenanigans. They were the biggest basket case of a hurling county in Ireland back in the day.

    People were calling the All Blacks in rugby bottlers prior to their 2011 world cup win as well and the same was said about Manchester United from 1969 to 1992. So bottlers can become winners as history has proven across multiple sports.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,776 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Maybe, but Galway are quietly building a solid squad now and Kilkenny's squad has probably not been as weak as a good number of years. They have to go to both Salthill (where they haven't won in the round-robin) and Parnell park, a potential banana-skin in Tullamore and Wexford at home, who at least stand up to them in the championship. Drop points in Pearse stadium and other venues too and there's no guarantee they'll make the Leinster final. This year to date they've already lost 3 league games and had 2 narrow wins at home against the 2 weakest teams. Opponents are finally starting to play Kilkenny the team rather than Kilkenny the reputation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,678 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    If Kilkenny do win Leinster it will only continue to mask the poor position they are in.

    Beating 2 Munster teams in a championship has been beyond them in the round robin era and it doesn't look like that gap is closing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,764 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Tbf it's the kilkenny people who are as critical and downbeat about their own chances as anyone

    EVENFLOW



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭thamus doku


    cork have too many good players to not win an all Ireland either this year or if not very soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭Shocs24


    Plenty of good players midfield up but a definite shortage of good backs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,558 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    If its a Clare v Dublin and Limerick v Cork finals, where are they likely to be played. Thurles?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭Vinnie222


    It's in Limerick if it's a Limerick v Cork final



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,558 ✭✭✭✭billyhead




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,678 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    If that's what the GAA allow. They might demand a neutral venue for a double header.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,458 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Yeah you're right nobody ever criticized the kilkenny or limerick teams when they were winning, everyone just said how tough they were. Cork are the first team to ever be criticized for playing on the edge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    Dont know would i call Cork bottlers.. think thats going a bit too far...

    Lets look at the evidence..

    2013 all-ire final 1st game.. a sympathethic ref gave Clare a chance to equalise... everyone including myself assumed once puckout by Clare keeper was taken whistle would blow.. didnt happen... cork beaten well in replay..

    2021 no bottle job just beaten by much better team

    2024 no bottle job just beaten by a team that was better on the day..

    2025 a complete malfunction in 2nd half but i wouldnt call it a bottle job.... even though 6pts up at break Tipp had plenty chances in that 1st half to be closer at break but didnt take them.. obviously Barretts goal on stroke of halftime gave scoreline a better look for Cork but you wouldnt say Cork deserved to be 6 up.. 2nd half a mystery but it can happen...

    Like if you go back to 2021 munster final Tipp 10 up at halftime and in the end beaten by Limerick.. was that a bottlejob i would not say so.. Tipp scored 6 times in 2nd half versus 19 scores for LK..

    My own opinion is Cork are just not good enough to win all ireland just yet... and i think the goalkeeper and fullback line are the biggest issues they have..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,458 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    In fairness if last year's all Ireland wasn't a bottle job then the term has no meaning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    Limerick v Offaly in 1994 was a bottlejob… Cork last July were just swamped by a Tipp tsunami..



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭King Power Fox


    I would argue Offaly Limerick 94 was the ultimate tsunami, last 5 mins and no time to reply. As a Limerick fan I was way more disappointed with losing to Wexford in 96, terrible on the day, hopeless on the line and stank the place out. Anyway over time I wouldn't begrudge Offaly and Wexford their All Irelands, far more palatable than the big 3 winning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭Shocs24


    Ya definitely agree about the Wexford match. They were puke on the day unfortunately and never got going at all. No offence to Wexford folk intended but I would have rated Offaly alot higher



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭Billy Ocean


    I was 7 in 1996 so remember it but some people down here reckon that Wexford was actually at it's peak in 1993 with the 3 league finals v Cork and Leinster final replay v Kilkenny who won the All Ireland league.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    you know your prob right about 1996.. but Limerick were awful hyped up before the start of that game… leaving parade early.. they were very on edge.. donegal last july reminded me of Limerick in 1996… hard to do yourself justice when in that state of mind



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭King Power Fox


    Forgot about parade break, I think a sign of disrespect to the band, opposition and section of the crowd that you bypass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,458 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Have a running joke with my friends about this, that whoever breaks from the parade first has lost the psychological battle already



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,764 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    On 1996.

    If you remember pretty much every team photo back in those days would have the teams lined with Hill 16 in background.

    It was the Wexford fans on the hill so Limerick team faced the other way so the Limerick fans who were in the canal would be in background. I remember the camera men having dash to other side.

    Then there was the breakaway from the parade. I remember my dad said before the ball was thrown in that Wexford had it already. Limerick were too wound up. Were too focused on before the match than the actual match.

    Even though I was only a kid I thought the photo was good idea at time but the parade thing did feel like they were just too focused on the things that did not matter.

    Funnily when Donegal did it last July it reminded me of 1996 and thats when I knew Kerry would walk it.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,458 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    That's a good point about the things that don't matter. I know there's some teams down the years that have put a big emphasis on little details, like that time mayo went down to warm up at the hill end and it completely screwed with the dubs, or in rugby when England wouldn't move from the red carpet to meet the president and Ireland had to stand in the muck, and it was seen in both these instances as a way of asserting dominance.

    But to me, in general, that sort of stuff is only bullshit that distracts from what you need to focus on: knowing your job and doing your job. I always think of Cody with that. One example, around the mid 2000s was when teams started to stand together for the anthem instead of standing in their position beside their opposite man. I might be wrong here but I've a feeling kk were one of the last teams to stop doing that, and I think it was just a case of, that sounds like nonsense, keep doing what you're doing. I doubt they ever once discussed when they'd break from a parade or anything like that either. Just seems like thinking about those things was amateur hour.

    Of course then we got into the handshake thing with shefflin and wouldn't you know it, it becomes a pointless distraction for all involved. Focused on things that don't matter when shaking his hand would have been the sensible thing to do



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    Its hard to know what psychological impact certain actions have if any, but I was surprised at Donegal last year breaking away so early.

    Up against the aristocrats of the game and an team that regards being in Croke Park on AI final day as their natural home - Donegal certainly made them look and feel like that.... chests out, crowd going wild, marching on their own behind the band.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 583 ✭✭✭Butterbeans


    Strong wind in Walsh Park but Tipp will have it all to do in the 2nd half. Waterford took great advantage of it.



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