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The Chipper - Irish institution or Death Machine?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭con___manx1


    I would prefer to see a tax on soft drinks. They are addictive and accessible for fat kids.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,198 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Since when do only overweight people get cancer? Utterly ridiculous idea, that would have no impact, and lacks any consideration of diet overall.

    Sugar drink are a tiny part of overall intake.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,198 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Disagree. If you are eating out it's typically cheaper to buy crap that a healthier option.
    You can make a healthy meal for $5 per person, you can make an unhealthy meal for half that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,008 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    A bag of chips is expensive enough these days, so I hate it when (some chippers) dish out a bag of white sloppy undercooked mush 😕

    I like my chips slightly brown, and not soggy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭Marty Bird


    Of course their not only ones that get cancer, but fat obese people are at much higher risk of cancers than someone that’s normal weight.

    🌞6.02kWp⚡️3.01kWp South/East⚡️3.01kWp West



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 burningrubbish


    VAT at the lower 13.5% rate, so lets say a average of 30% for the cost of the food, so €3.75 for your order, so €7.07 in profit after VAT deduction from sale price, outrageous! Remember these chippers are not paying top dollar for their staff.

    As long as the public keep paying these prices hey will only ever go up and the owners will continue to drive "Mercedes C class and a Merc SUV of some type."

    Go to the supermarket and it is way cheaper to buy a bag of chips and a big steak , cook it your self, better for your pocket and health.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Time pressure must be a huge factor for people I would imagine. Particularly for families, and especially if one person has the responsibility to cook food for everyone.

    Easier to get a takeaway, even if it is more expensive. And extra cost is exactly the disincentive that the OP is suggesting. And so it's obvious that it does not work.

    I love cooking for myself and at my own pace. But I'm aware that that is not how many people live.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 burningrubbish


    Its a commitment to change that is required to cook at home, first month will be a challenge, but once you dial in a few tasty meals that you can knock out without much effort and time, the idea of stodgy chipper food become less and less appealing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭cgorzy


    On the appeal of chipper food I think the effect of home cooking depends on the person. I don’t find the appeal of a takeaway, chipper or other type, to diminish from regularly cooking at home. In our house a takeaway would be max twice a month and overall probably only 12-15 times a year but despite everyone enjoying the dinners we cook all absolutely love a chipper when we get it and there is a look of delight when the children hear that is what is for dinner.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,150 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    Define overweight? BMI is basically considered nonsense these days. Ian Thorpe who's an olympic swimmer as fit as you can get did BMI test and was considered overweight.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,535 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    You're not wrong I suppose but the death of the traditional family is basically the cause of unhealthy eating habits and a lot of chronic diseases.

    Buying food, cooking, cleaning up after, takes time and effort and gets very repetitive, especially if you've no real love for it or aptitude for it.

    That said, if you don't like cooking there are other options than a chipper.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    Genetics play a far bigger role in health that chippers but unfortunately there is noway of making of money out of talking about genetics as opposed to ultra processes food.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,304 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    How would throwing money at a rubbish chipper improve it? Anyone running a poor quality chipper needs to find a new business rather than getting hand-outs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    Also the number of people who don't understand the difference between may increases the risk of XYX and something directly causes XYZ.

    Apparently those who eat healthy exercise ect, are often doubly upset if they get cancer because they have picked up the message they healthy eating and exercise can prevent cancer which is nonsense.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,304 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Buying food, cooking, cleaning up after, takes time and effort and gets very repetitive, especially if you've no real love for it or aptitude for it.

    Yes, I know it sounds a bit sanctimonious, but maybe giving a bit of thought and appreciation to the fact that you can buy food, and have the facilities to cook it and clean up afterwords. Finding the fortitude to deal with a bit of repetitive time and effort might require a bit of effort, but the awareness of your good fortune might be productive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    There are a few things thet are absolutely connected to poor health, smoking for example.

    Food is way too variable.

    How many people go to the chipper every day anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,324 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    When living with my ex I did all the cooking, and on that odd night when I was working late, I'd text her and say "can you sort out dinner tonight", I could stake money on it being an Indian. She hated to cook.

    Time pressure is 100% a factor. Nowadays when cooking just for myself, the chipper is last on my list because by the time it arrives the chips are soggy, so I have to put them in the air fryer to crisp them up, and if I'm going to have to do that anyway, I might as well do my own chips and something with it myself.

    I find it a little sad that so many chippers are run by Italian families, but finding real Italian takeaways is so hard to come by. It'd be nice to order a lasanga now and again, instead of a battered sausage and soggy chips.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭Migdal_Or


    I eat one every now and then, and I couldn't believe the price of it last time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,324 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Years ago the doctor was on at my uncle to give up smoking. Back at the doctor a few weeks later the doctor asked him about it and he said he'd cut down a good bit. When pressured on the number, he was down to 60 a day.

    I smoked 20 a day for about 5 years, and I remember waking up in the morning with the scratchy throat. I can't imagine what 60 or 80 a day must be like. Then the cost of it. When I was smoking they were about 5 euros a pack. Over the course of a month that was 150 euro's literally going up in smoke. For him, multiply that by 3 or 4(or more!).

    Andy McNab is an ex-SAS soldier turned author, and I read his memoir a few years ago. He was doing SAS selection, and was drinking various sports drinks high in electrolytes. A more experienced soldier was looking at his collection and said "You can drink them I suppose, but the only thing I have to keep my electrolytes up is 2 pints of guiness and a bag of chips on the way home". This was about the fittest guy you could meet, who would think nothing of getting up in the morning and running to the top of Pen y Fan(highest peak in South Wales where they train), and then running down to the bottom of it again. So maybe there's not much inherently wrong in the bag of chips, just be sure you work it off regularly. Working in an office, bag of chips on the way home, and NetFlix for the evening, it's maybe not the chips thats causing the damage.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 FatBudda


    This is going to upset folk but i don't care it needs to be said. A lot of people who eat chipper food/fast food consistently are going to die young or have complicated health issues for life and become a burden on the health system and budget meaning we all will have to pay for their ignorance. From my experience in the health sector these people tend to be in the round from uneducated "lower class" backgrounds and often welfare dependent.

    In many cases they are too lazy or ignorant to be helped and this sort of attitude makes me just shrug my shoulders when i see one invariably headed to an early grave. One other thing that pisses me off no end is this "it's too expensive to eat healthy" crap i hear from these people on a consistent basis also. You can go into any supermarket and feed a family of four with a decent healthy selection of produce for the same price of one chipper "meal".

    I'd get take out food (never chipper as i dislike the taste of grease) every now and then maybe 2-3 times a year and that in itself is not unhealthy but there are people who do this every single week and then sit in the doctors chair and be told they have type 2 diabetes at age 35 and act all surprised like life's dealt them a bad hand. It's bullsh it, they've dealt themselves a bad hand and expect the rest of us to have to look after them now they are incapable of working or contributing to society.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭Jelly Welly




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    When I go to the chipper, I usually don't get chips as I find I can barely finish them and feel like a bloated pig afterwards. So I usually get a battered sausage and a burger and hope that they throw in a small scoop of chips with it. At least I'm getting a decent amount of protein.

    There are some "less unhealthy" options in McDonalds and KFC these days. Wrap of the day and rice bowls.

    Although the cooking fat/oil used by these might be worse than that used by Italian chippers if the chippers still use tallow which I'm not sure if they do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,198 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    What do you consider much higher? Isn't it like and increase from 10% to 11%? That's not good obviously, but there are massive amount of this that cause increased risk of cancer. It's a bit much to impose a social tax on everything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,150 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    We need people to die younger. This pension bomb as they call it isn't too far away. People not looking after themselves is a burden on the health system but the budget the HSE have and the tax that's paid on the stuff which is bad for us is massive and will offset the cost. It sounds a bit morbid but it's true. 70 will do me if I get that far and it's off to Switzerland with me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,835 ✭✭✭beachhead


    Another Calvinistic post if you enjoy something it must be bad for you.Fish n chips and english import?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,535 ✭✭✭kowloonkev




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,304 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I know it does, but it also contributes to positive thinking.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,198 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    That not really accurate. BMI is for assessing how over/under weight a population is. It's perfectly suitable for that and still used all the time. It's not absolute for an individual. But exceptions where people are Athletic but Obese by BMI are possible obviously, but not as common as people like to pretend.
    If you stopped 10 random people on the street, who were "obese" by BMI. How are many are actually obese. 9? Maybe even 10?

    Ian Thorpe is 1.95m tall. He was around 90kg as an Olympian. That's a BMI of about 23. Not sure where you got the idea that he was obese by BMI. He'd need to be much bigger.
    Caelan Doris is 1.93m/111kg. That's not even obese by BMI.



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