US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

A total of 7 civilians were killed in the Gulf regions of Qatar, UAE, Oman, Saudi, Kuwait and Bahrain in the first week.

Zero civilians killed in Israel

1300+ Civilian deaths in Iran, which is 50% of the civilians killed in 2025 of Ukraine conflict, which was the the deadliest year since it started, also the same amount as the average weekly deaths during the first 6 months of the Gaza extermination and famine.

EDIT - 12 Israeli deaths.

What are the sources for those claims if Iranians themselves are so quickly dismissed

I've yet to meet a Corkonian that wasn't savvy!

As a previous poster alluded to it's not just about controlling the oil, it's about trying to weaken and isolate the second biggest economy in the world. America likes being first. Russia wins in the short term due to partial sanctions relief and higher oil prices, China it's main ally loses longer term- that's the plan anyway

Israel has according to themselves, had access to Iranian traffic cameras, CCTV networks and even if we just take the evidence of the decapitation strikes on Khameini as indication of their penetration of Iranian security, the inside track on Iranian security apparatus for years.
Complete access to the surveillance networks that Iran uses to police its people.
Yet, not an iota of evidence other than low angle shots of the morgues and reports from barely disguised propaganda that gets republished in western media with that media presented as the source.

So with that in mind.
Why haven't Israel or the US presented the evidence of the Regime's bloodthirsty crackdown resulting in the 33000 deaths?
Why when if the evidence exists, are we relying on guesses and opinion?

I have no doubt that 0000's have died in the crackdown but I have serious concerns regarding the veracity of 33000.
Further, affording any weight to the numbers of Iranian deaths at the hands of the Regime as a casus belli?
When the War itself is the culmination of 40yrs + of Nethanyahu's career?
Belies a deep lack of analysis.
Also, the irony of the Israelis & the US deciding to try and take the moral high ground in any invasion and it being afforded any weight at all?
Is ludicrous.

What's happened here is a classic case of a wildly inaccurate figure being put out into the media from biased parties (in this case an exiled news outfit) and certain people jumping on it as fact, despite the obvious problem of it being a figure that was estimated long, long, before any kind of actual accounting had been done. And once that accounting had started the inaccurate estimate stays live and those that don't want to pay no attention to the revised and more accurate figure.

So far that figure remains under 10,000. Roughly around 7000 for all dead according to organisations who are gathering names. I've no doubt that it'll get higher as more names are accounted for.

That's is THAT high should make everyone pause for thought at the sheer brutality of the crackdown by government forces on protesters as it's a shocking figure in itself.

It still won't stop certain types from endless repeating this 30,000+ figure though. Because, frankly, that's the one that sounds "better" to them.

Maybe they are forced to call force majeure and shut down their rare earth operations for 6 months or soyabeans or something ?

China's "homegrown" energy production represents 85% of its consumption and is growing @4.6% per year. In 6 months it's homegrown growth replaces Iran and Venezuela's oil by other means, yes they will pay more like everyone else, which means everything will cost more to buy and they make 40% of everything.

If they need to buy oil, they will go to replace Gulf oil elsewhere like everyone else will which pushes prices up and makes the remaining 80% of the pie smaller for everyone to eat from. The big one is India who bought 50% of it's imports from the Gulf yet only has 20 days of reserves.

Everyone knew Iran could close Hormuz, but no one expected them to do it straight away. If they go down they will take the whole global economy with them, may as well. In 3 weeks things will start to break.

Oil is there, they just have to offer more and people will sell. That's when they run out of 1 billion barrels of reserves they have, it is 200 days worth of what they imported.

What happens if they stop rare earth exports for 200 days to save on energy ?

The US is not offering a ceasefire so how could Iran accept one? The US is demanding unconditional surrender.

I dont think it will be possible to turn Iran into another Gaza given the differentials in size but it is a good analogy to show bombing can achieve very little.

So no ceasefire is offered as I have said.

I really cant make head nor tail of the rest of your post.

Speaking out of both sides of the mouth I see

If I check your 7255 posts will I find a single condemnation of a nuclear state called Russia carrying out genocide and atrocities for 5 years now? Or in Syria before that??

30,000 Iranian killed by their regime and reported by Iranians themselves extensively is two orders of magnitude larger tragedy than the murder at the school, where is the outrage??

Then why did you say Iran should accept a ceasefire to avoid becoming a new Gaza. Was that a sarcastic statement?

From checking the marine traffic website the only ships Iran is letting through are flagged as being either Chinese owned and crewed, or with consignments for China.

Plus China has been building massive strategic crude reserves since 2008 to prepare for such a scenario. Even though fuels (crude, refined and LNG) are now the USAs biggest export their strategic reserves were not topped up after the Ukraine invasion shock, so this commodity price jump is going straight to the pump.

Because of high fuel taxes in Europe we have some room to drop rates as a buffer, like we did for hauliers after the Russian invasion.

BTW, before Maduro was sold off Venezuela accounted for around 0.4% of Chinese crude imports, so zero impact. Trump's attacks are merely wars of mass distraction rather than any greater geopolitical strategy. Coming closer to the mid term he'll unleash his ICE forces into blue states to cause mayhem that he'll then use to cancel the ballots.