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US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭rogber


    What sort of moronic comment is that, Spain and Britain are predominantly Muslim countries since when?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 432 ✭✭malibu4u


    It was a joke, but still reflects that more criticism comes from Spain and Britain towards USA now than from Muslim countries like Quatat, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Dubai/ UAE etc. towards USA.

    As an aside I was in Luton recently, it is Muslim majority. Only 1 mosque there in the 1980s, about 50 there now. It will be great when Ireland is like that, inshallah.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    Sounds like Europe is mega-fúcked and stuck in a perfect storm of an energy crisis. I guess it's one way of meeting self-imposed emissions targets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭rogber


    Make no mistake, for the maga crowd who really despise Europe this is a very positive side effect of the war. What they'd love even more is a few million Iranian refugees to end up in Europe, in order to boost the far right



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    America antagonising us. Russia at war with Ukraine causing bans on imports from there. Ukraine blowing up the Nord Stream gas pipeline. Middle East stuck. Russia rerouting LNG ships to Asia before a EU 2027 ban meaning they will probably never come back to Europe. Germany closing down nuclear plants. Ireland banning exploration.

    We now have Russia and Iran incentivised to keep the Strait of Hormuz closed. America wants Europe to completely fail. Kuwait etc. will take ages getting these things running again whenever the strait opens again.

    Europe is totally at the mercy of all around it it seems. At least Norway can help I guess.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,089 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Would the US not be weakened by a weaker Europe? We are its largest trading partner are we not, let alone its closest allies?

    A stand alone US may be great, but well weakened by a poor EU/Europe. So much scaremongering and negativity going on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 975 ✭✭✭BettyS


    Europe is extremely resilient. We survived two horrendous world wars and it was Europe that gave rise to the Turings, Flemings, Einsteins, Pasteurs, Darwins, etc. Europe was where the theoretical basis for democracy originated and I believe that Europe will always persist in some form or another. We will have our moments where things look rocky. But show me any large region that does not have these moments



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 58,506 ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Mod: no need to quote malibu4u going forward folks. Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,781 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    I’m getting the feeling that America is now treating Europe as its plaything. It clearly has no respect for us as a collective ; if Europe becomes a basket case, America still survives. China is perceived now as Americas only credible adversary. So all efforts are being made to keep ahead of China from an economic advantage (access to natural resources and rare minerals) as well as military perspective.

    Really, nothing else matters to America right now - “better together” has been replaced with MAGA- they’re clearly on a solo mission now. Sooner Europe pools its skills and resources and becomes one nation the better- and theyres no room for stupid “neutral” thinking and sitting on the fence- sooner Ireland joins NATO and gets with the 21st century world the better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    In the UK I think local councils have more power over decisions like that than in Ireland where the Government appointed Chief Executive/County Manager controls much of planning.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,170 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Things didn't go too well for an Israeli CSAR team last night.
    The idiocy of sending in 4 helicopters and Spec Ops troops to recover the body of a 40yr dead navigator?
    In the midst of their ever widening attacks on Lebanon?
    Cannot be overstated, forget the "leave no man behind" propaganda angle, and judge it solely on the logistics, the risk to highly trained troops, the propaganda value any casualties taken afford to Hezbollah and cost in men and material during an apparently "existential" war.

    https://defencesecurityasia.com/en/israel-hezbollah-bekaa-valley-raid-radwan-force-israeli-commandos-lebanon-clash/

    Israel is performing for the war hawks at home and in the US.
    It is still trying to portray itself as a Sparta in the ME, small, defenceless and surrounded by enemies.
    Reliant upon guile, God and US money to make sure it survives long enough for that all (important to the Evangelicals) class on the fields of Meggido.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,691 ✭✭✭yagan


    Reread your argument and you'll see that joining NATO is the very thing we shouldn't do. NATO is now obsolete, irrelevant when its biggest member passes on NATO secrets to Russia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,781 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    NATO or whatever the new version will be when we’re left high and dry by America - the essence of what I’ve said still stands- we can no longer be neutral- it makes no sense in today’s world



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    Mod: Warned for commenting on moderation

    Post edited by Necro on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,217 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    It's becoming very much a religious war in terms of selling it to the Trump fans. I think Hegseth himself has a weird Crusades obsession. I also think many people in Ireland aren't necessarily pro-Israeli, they are pro-anyone who flights muslims. They won't admit it though.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,691 ✭✭✭yagan


    We're already members of PESCO.

    As a territorial defense pact it doesn't require a constitutional change.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    Have you read your own link?

    'Born' doesn't mean the babies 'lived in Auschwitz'.

    "She also described how the newborns were snatched away, taken to another room, and drowned in a barrel by Schwester Klara, who was imprisoned at Auschwitz for infanticide, and her assistant, Schwester Pfani.[11]Of the 3,000 she delivered, some 2,500 newborns perished;[1] a few hundred others with blue eyes were sent away to be Germanised. Only about 30 infants survived in the care of their mothers."

    Stanisława Leszczyńska - Wikipedia



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,603 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    Blame American rather than the pie in the sky European policy of the last decade or so.

    Going all in on renewables, shutting nuclear and coal plants with very little of their own fossil fuels supplies, leaving them dependent on Russia and the middle East.

    From an energy security point of view and a defense point of view Net Zero is a brain dead pie in the sky nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 58,506 ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Mod: Commenting on moderation is not permitted if there's an issue PM one of us. For the record the poster wasn't banned for their views, they were banned for other reasons. We will leave it at that and get back to the thread topic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,469 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    If we weren't reliant on fossil fuels we wouldn't be in this predicament. Renewables grant strategic autonomy



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,781 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    In fairness no one thought we’d be in a place where America was becoming a key agitator and sh1t stirrer of Europe. True, we were asleep throughout this time - but feels like we’ve thrown the baby out whilst waiting on the bath water to heat up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,603 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    But we are reliant.

    Energy policy should be designed on the basis of reality not wishes.

    Compare EU policy with the realism with our competitors. Look at what China and USA India are doing. It isn't Net Zero and closing nuclear.

    Renewables are part of the mix for a sensible policy not the be all and end all.

    It has left us with energy prices out of control and no energy security.

    We as a block gave Russia close to One Trillion dollars between 2014 and 2022 while Russia was illegally occupying Ukraine and we were shutting nuclear plants.

    All except France of course where there's still a realist or two



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,854 ✭✭✭weisses


    America is a key agitator for decades, causing a refugee crisis and terrorism in Europe



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,798 ✭✭✭Quitelife


    Israel kill far more people in Palestine or now Iran than anyone else …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,798 ✭✭✭Quitelife


    The physcopayhic Israel will kill the whole world for a finish up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,854 ✭✭✭weisses


    And in the end the US/Brittain is responsible for this regime when Mohammad Mosaddegh was overthrown by a coup instigated by MI6 and the CIA. Reason? Iran wanted to have control over their own Oil.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,438 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Trumps woke up and claims total victory.

    trump.jpg

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,854 ✭✭✭weisses


    This almost sounds his dementia ridden brain telling his bone spurs they won and the war is over



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,089 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Well said, I'd agree with most of that. It doesn't negate anything I said though. China is highly unlikely to become Europe's best market trade wise, or an ally we can or would court for defensive purposes either. Europe has taken itself, defensively and aggressively , for granted and become far too dependent on the US. We will still though be dependent on it's economic connection trade wise and indeed defensively. I don't see that connection changing, even when and if EU does become more militarily self sufficient. I think American maga inspirations are them trying to make them the dominant partner in trade, but not by destroying their biggest trading partner. More like them being self perceived as being dominant rather than stand alone.



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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 8,113 Mod ✭✭✭✭circadian


    Lunatic. Nothing to say about the US and Israel actually causing the response attacks on the Gulf states?

    Under consideration for total destruction are areas and people who weren't considered for targeting? What is he on about? The Kurds because they didn't do what he said?



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