"No to war" & "breakdown of international law" - Spanish PM Sánchez

In reality there is no such thing as International Law, thinking there is is very naive.

Big countries with big military can do as much as they like until someone with a bigger military stands up to them, that's all it comes down to , who has the bigger guns. If international law did exist the war in Ukraine and these middle east wars would never have started. The UN is a completely useless organization from a peace point of view, UNESCO is a nice thing but outside of that it's useless.

Stopping wars has now become more difficult due to globalization, back in the old days if you wanted to start a war you had to make the effort yourself to build up your level of arms and manufacture everything yourself. Now you can just get it supplied to you from companies all around the world. It would be nice of there was a complete ban on international arms sales and provision of anything to any military from outside the country but I doubt that could be enforced.

It takes 2 to tango… If you need fisherman to ward of Russian ships you are doing something wrong.

What we need in Europe is to be self sufficient in everything, it prevents us from looking the other way when atrocities are being committed because it would hurt our economies. Be strong economically and have formidable military defence capabilities is the best guarantee of a peaceful life on our continent

I've seen some UK media outlets citing that figure but what are the sources?

I remember when Hamas attacked that Kibitz there was meant to be a room where they slaughter hundreds of babies, it circulated as fact for a few days until it was totally debunked as a zionist source.

One thing is certain, many who had being only thinking about installing solar and buying an EV will have more financial motivation to get away from oil.

Trump will get bored of this war quickly, but as the biggest refined oil exporter in the world I can see him simply pulling the US back from the middle east.

Spot on. Every time I hear someone wailing about "international law" I want to cringe. The law of the jungle is the only one that exists. Which is why the Irish electorate need to wise up fast and drop this infantile posturing about our so called "neutrality". The likes of Putin doesn't give a sh*t about our so called neutrality. The only way to establish anything like an international law/rules based system would be if people stopped voting for war mongering cretins like Trump.

What do you think will happen to refugee numbers from the middle east to Europe and the US if Trump and Netanyahu continue to pursue this 'war'?

Trump is an idiot. Gets voted in on anti-immigration policies then goes down the route of starting a war that will probably result in an explosion of refugees. 500k will be a drop in the ocean compared to what's coming if this continues.

Or you know, US interventions in the Middle East have historically gone wrong. This doesn't mean we're remotely supportive of the Iranian regime, just recognising that these interventions have gone disastrously wrong. It's even more concerning when it's in conjunction with a regime who are pretty okay with committing genocide.

Bombing civilians isn't an answer. The Shah terrorised his nation with the backing of foreign governments, that memory is still in living memory there. Every time the US and Israel bombs Iran it justifies Iranian resistance.

More negotiations and non lethal forms of persuasion.

Tens of thousands will directly die in this war both in Iran and surrounding areas. The global economy is going to be in complete turmoil. Who knows what other states get drawn in to it and what the ultimate outcome will be? A complete **** show. Who knows the long term outcome in the region.

There was no pressing need to kick this off at all, keep negotiating, keep talking - but deciding to go to the gun at early stages is completely wrong particularily when you look at some of the rationale being used.

Even the concept of international is pure puff. If you're a palestinian you're into the fifth generation of people forced by gunpoint off their ancestral homeland all because one sect got the USA behind them to do what they like.

Bush Jr invaded Iraq without a UN mandate for a war waged on an invented pretext. We've been told for three decades that Iran will have the bomb next week etc…

At the same time as the US backed Saddam Hussein against Iran they also hosted godly warriors of Afghanistan in the Oval Office.

Before that they carpet bombed Vietnamese rice farmers to "protect the American way of life".

After they invaded Iraq then they said they didn't do nation building. Iranians know that if let the USA and Israel will do a Gaza on them and then let them rot. Regime change, still waiting for that in Venezuela.

I just had a look there at his speech and wholeheartedly agree. At last an EU leader with the balls to stick it to Trump and his proxy Israel, or is it the other way around?

Helen, on the other hand, remains 'extremely concerned'.