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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,555 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    Your metrics for measuring success differ to The Dons.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,526 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭The Subliminal Verses




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,356 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    And a large part of the issue is timing. Iran knows that Trump is not in it for the long haul. He has given himself very tight deadlines. And the fact that there is little appetite for this in the US, even from his own base and that Trump had to bypass Congress, means that the clock is ticking on Trump.

    Iran needs to dig in and survive. Putting constraints on himself is madness, but he had little choice since he had gathered no actual support for this outside of his own group.

    Iran knows this and knows that the rising oil prices and upcoming November midterms play into its advantage.

    I have no idea whether they can survive to take advantage of the timeframes, but it is clearly an advantage they have.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    There was at least one American flag proudly waved by the 150 Iranians at their demonstration in O'Connell St, Dublin on Saturday who were opposed to the 40 year old political regime in Iran. Amazing to hear ordinary Iranians praising Trump for helping liberate their country, and Irish people here on boards then condemn Trump.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,496 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Did they miss that he has already said there won't be regime change ?

    By the way, it's perfectly possible to think both the Ayatollahs and Trump are *****



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,213 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    I think it's generally true that ex-pats/immigrants will likely be majority opposed to their home government.

    Not just Iranians, but largely the situation with all countries diaspora. The reason you left in the first place is because things were economically/politically bad for you or at an extreme level you feared for your life.
    So you are never going to get massive support for the regime in foreign countries and possibly a mistake to read too much into it. If things were great for you in the 'Homeland', then you likely wouldn't be in another country.

    It was vaguely interesting in O'Connell St Monday evening. Outside the GPO 50-100 Iranians waving their flags (and plenty of USA flags also, and chants of USA-USA-USA). And at the Spire 50-100 mainly Irish people from 'Coalition against War' type groupings, decrying the USA action. The odd Iranian in this group as well, and plenty of heated words between opposing sides. It looked like it might kick-off but nothing in the news so I guess not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,529 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    I've seen a few things proposed - Tertiary Syphilis, Shingles, dog-caller constriction marks.

    There's a cancer drug 5-FU cream (Fluorouracil) that might leave similar marks, but as it's a cream, it's usually applied near the area of the cancer, but who knows, maybe he's got metastases in his neck. One can hope.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭yagan


    @Leroy42

    Trump really doesn't like having to explain his executive actions, even to his own party.

    I can see why he'd prefer to escalate the war to justify starting it, but ultimately it's doubtful that the US can actually afford regime change.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,168 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Concerns in South Korea that the US are moving THAAD and Patriot missiles out of theatre to reinforce Middle Eastern defences.

    The depletion of BMD capable interceptors due to their being expended in defence of Israel and US bases in the ME will have huge strategic implications for South Korea & Taiwan.

    Including last year's expenditure in the June war, the magazine depth available to US for THAAD is likely approaching low 3 figure at this point.
    The total number of SM3 available to the USN is likely less than 500, that doesn't account for any that have been fired, just the likely total delivered.
    Similarly, total number of SM6 delivered to date is likely approx 1500.
    That gives the USN 2000 BMD capable rounds, which doctrine would see fired in pairs.

    The US army has deeper Patriot magazine but as has been seen in videos released in 1st couple of days of this war.
    Multiple rounds are being launched at incoming missiles and the miss rate is reportedly higher than 10%.
    Similarly, the US army's THAAD stockpile was already depleted by approx 25% last June with anywhere from 100-250 launched in defence of Israel.

    China, North Korea and to a large extent also Russia can only be looking at US missile expenditure with absolute delight.
    Both BMD and AA defence across the US allies in the far east and in Ukraine have been crippled for the foreseeable future.
    Freeing that Axis from a huge amount of risk and heaping pressure on erstwhile allies.
    Japan does at least have a PAC-3 missile manufacturing license, whereas European allies are still awaiting final go ahead for the Germans & Romanians to begin building them in Europe.

    The depletion of US Air Defence and in particular the BMD capable missiles must IMHO be viewed against the 2023 Pentagon warning that China would be capable of invading Taiwan in 2027.
    The expenditure of missiles over the past 4 days?
    Has weakened allies and the US ability to protect and project it's own forces.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,266 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Silly comment, no they shouldn't.

    But Hesketh and trump should be



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,776 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    Lindsay Graham saying Cuba is next.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭Dr Robert




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 924 ✭✭✭bored65


    There is a colonial war of conquest right here in Europe with Iranian allies flying hundreds of Iranian designed drones night after night for 5 years now

    These 50,000$ drones can and are easily being brought down now with 10,000$ drone interceptors

    Gulf countries like I mentioned earlier will be left with a war on their doorstep when Trump gets bored and leave the mess he started, the smart ones will take up Zelensky on his offer

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/03/03/zelensky-offers-to-save-gulf-states-iran-war-putin-drones/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,594 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    It is the general rule of thumb for conflicts that are having an affect on the price of oil is that if they are not resolved within four weeks oil prices at that point will have risen to a level where it would take much longer than four weeks for them to come back to their original level.

    Oil prices staying high for a prolonged period would not be a good look for Trump and would also have a knock-on effect on inflation and scupper whatever chance he has of getting the Feb to reduce interest rates with mid terms around the corner.

    Even amongst his own MAGA who voted for him on his promise of no more foreign wars where many of their own offsprings are in the firing lines.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,155 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    people will go to war and die for that nonsense spouting gobshite. The military must be worried that at some stage people think actually I’m not that keen on having people shoot at me for no reason related to America. Absolute lack wits joining up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,776 ✭✭✭amandstu


    I wonder if they can engineer "Iranian" attacks on US soil to disrupt the elections?

    (I can't see any hope of Republican success in the mid terms whilst there is an ongoing and lethal war ,with knock ons to the economy)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,497 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Next on the list of things to distract from trumps name being all over the epstein files



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,776 ✭✭✭amandstu


    From a non medical spectator but with a malignant curiosity, an "excès de zêle" on the part of an (ex-) member of his medical team?

    Or an attack from a bat?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 54,659 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    He isnt liberating Iran. He is dropping a few bombs and pissing off and leaving a gaping power vacuum which will kill more in the middle east than the bombs will.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,596 ✭✭✭Economics101


    Kash Patel should be fired for this (as well as lots of other things):

    https://edition.cnn.com/2026/03/03/politics/patel-fbi-national-security-division-firings-iran

    What a Moronocracy!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,594 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    If they did I doubt it would help them.

    It would only get even more voters asking why they are involved in his present attempt at distraction to counter a supposed imminent nuclear threat of a nuclear weapon being developed by Iran, when he told them a few months ago that Iran`s nuclear facilities had been totally obliterated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 333 ✭✭somenergy


    Seems he was lead by Israel and Saudi's he doesn't listen to his own intel or whats left of them

    There no operational information from the US military so I dont think they are happy

    I remember Iraq they spent 9 months building a force this 1 only got a month so won't be enough for a sustained campaign

    If the Iranians are holding back for a couple of weeks then let go could change the dynamics drastically.

    Starmer should be careful and not back the fool



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,776 ✭✭✭amandstu


    They must definitely be following a delay strategy (if possible).

    This is ,after all asymmetric warfare (albeit on their in soil and with their eye on the uprising in the rear mirror)

    So sad to be living in such "interesting times"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    The relatives and supporters of the 30,000 protestors killed by the regime in Iran in January and Feb. alone may disagree with you.

    Has any political leaders or politicians from around the world expressed condolences for Ayatollah Ali Khamenei yet?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN



    “Trump claims Iran wanted to negotiate but he said 'too late'

    Donald Trump has taunted Iran's remaining leaders by declaring it's 'too late to talk' after suggesting Tehran wanted to negotiate with the US.

    In a post on his Truth Social account, the President said: 'Their air defense, Air Force, Navy, and Leadership is gone. They want to talk. I said “Too Late!'

    It comes as Trump warns the 'hardest hits' are yet to come as the fighting entered its fourth day and promised to retaliate after the US embassy in Saudi Arabia was attacked by drones.”

    So if he doesn’t want to negotiate, just what da fck does he want?
    Do we assume he wants to blow up the place a lot more, kill a few more potential leaders and then demand 50% of their oil for free or something?

    What does “done” look like? He’s just pissing in the wind if he keeps this up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,877 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    To be fair: many, if not most, signing up to the US Military are doing so because their hyper-capitalist system has left them with no other real option to make anything of their lives: the old manufacturing jobs are all gone to Asia, third level education is unaffordable for most of the working class and their public secondary education has been gutted, reducing their chances at academic scholarships (I was reading on Reddit the other day that many teachers actually earn less than the janitorial staff in US public high schools!). Military service offers both excellent training, discounts in huge numbers of businesses and, most crucially, the chance to avail of the GI Bill if you survive your contract.

    I'm sure there are plenty of poorly educated rednecks enlisting because of family tradition or out of their own ignorance but for all that I'd struggle to feel sympathy for those dying to help Trump distract the public from his many and varied crimes, I can see why so many join up in the first place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭dogbert27


    Just like the Muslims who voted for Trump believing he would be better for Palestine than Harris.

    The one consistency of anyone who does anything for Trump is that they regret it afterwards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,671 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    The relatives and supporters of the 30,000 protestors killed by the regime in Iran in January and Feb. alone may disagree with you.

    They will be next to be killed when Israel reverts to type and starts seeing boogeymen in Hospitals, Schools and shelters. They already gave them a taste of this on day one.

    Iran isn't being liberated unless there a massive ground invasion and a decade plus of occupation.

    It's not happening.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,138 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I would not be surprised if a lot of those 'community leaders' were bought off to boost Trump.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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