É bikes and scooters

Moronic why? I live beside the one that goes from north strand to the liffey, never any issues with it and it's very busy with cyclists. you only ever see pedestrians being killed by motorists, and they always seem to be elderly.

I think these misconceptions and fear mongering comes from narrow experience and media FUD.

Anyone who cycles regularly will likely have to use shared paths very frequently. Often routes cannot be linked up unless they use shared paths. They'll be used to pedestrians on their cycle paths. A bell is a necessity tbh. Cycle paths cross plazas and squares with regularity. Canal paths often have shared sections. Parks have changed shared sided..

Most People aren't going to cycle at or into pedestrians deliberately as it's likely the cyclist is going to come off and be hurt.

Obviously fully segregated is better, but it's impractical in many places.

Someone acting the Muppet (or tossers) is the exception rather than the rule. A Garda enforcement in locations with issues is what's needed.

yeah well last year there were 40 something pedestrians killed and i remember most of them being elderly from the reports.

in the report below it shows that between 2019 and 2024 the largest share of pedestrian fatalities over those years was among people aged 75+, so if i was an old person i wouldn't be worried about scooters on shared paths!

you're just making stuff up about the elderly being terrified and you have no evidence to suggest this or that they are being harmed by bikes and scooters

https://www.rsa.ie/docs/default-source/road-safety/r2---statistics/analysis-of-road-users/pedestrian-spotlight-report-fatalities-and-serious-injuries-2020-2024722d6f71-5496-435a-964a-14366d609209.pdf

I've never been touched by a car because I can see and hear them coming (not as easily now since they've started to go electric) but I've been clipped by e-scooters three times in the past year. And I don't even live in a city.

Escooters and eBikes on paths are already illegal.

They don't need to be banned, they need to be policed.

Cycle-o-Paths whatever you want to call the people on them.

To recap this sprung from eScooters and eBikes on footpaths. Then realising this was foolishas they are already banned from them. Switched to FUD about shared use paths, banning them, not realising how common they are and how few accidents are on them. Its very hard to create hysteria (people in fear of leaving their home) about shared paths when they are a miniscule risk compared to cars. If they are hysterical about shared paths they'd have to apply the same FUD to cars. Except they won't.

Which means this isn't about safety at all. Its cognitive bias.

There's been quite a few social media posts from the Garda lately showing the eScooters and ebikes they've grabbed. Be interesting to see if this keeps up.

The only wagon here is the Ban Wagon.

Something new - ban it.

What's the breakdown of the other 75%.

Is there any report that has full information in context with other accidents like falls or car accidents.

They were never legal for kids. They've been around for a decade or more and illegal for the majority of the time for adults.

The cyclist might be cautious of the pedestrian but that does not mean the pedestrian is safe - age, infirmity, sight problems (cataracts even) - can make it very difficult for some pedestrians to gauge whether they are safe. Some become prone to tripping and falling without a collision. That remains the fault of the cyclist or scooter rider if they are not supposed to be on the pavement in the first place.

Er, because cyclists cycle e-bikes……