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Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking charges

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    That is her MO. When the going gets tough, she goes on holiday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    I am not saying for sure she is out but it would not suprise me. She has the dirt on the most powerful man in the country.

    That statement she made about Trump and Clinton being completely innocent (they are in their shite) could have been her get out of jail free card.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,851 ✭✭✭✭kippy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    The more I read coming out in the files the more I can believe the sick orange kunt would pull something like this to save his own skin. He is about to invade Iran just to take the spotlight off the files!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭silliussoddius




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,851 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Look, we all know the solution to those types of problems has already been tried and tested. It isn't the release and relocation of the person involved, that's for sure……..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭PsychoPete


    Hillary Clintons closed door deposition put on hold because Lauren Boebert leaked a photo of the meeting



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    3 minutes in, Hillary Clinton answers why Ghislaine Maxwell was at Chelsea's wedding.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    "Clinton told reporters that the questions also veered off-topic and “got quite unusual”, with questions about UFOs and Pizzagate, a repeatedly discredited conspiracy theory linking the Democratic party to a pedophilia ring."

    The shooting in the pizza place or whatever really ruined what is a valid conspiracy. The way they talk in the Podesta emails is very similar to the way they talk in the Epstein emails. Very obvious codewords being used all over. But it all gets shelved away as nonsense for political reasons.

    And it still blows my mind that the Guardian can write that line above. The Epstein stuff is literally a Democrat pedofile ring. The absolute hacks writing those articles are claiming it's a conspiracy when it's all proven and there to see. Trump was a Democrat back then, Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, all the professors etc. stepping down now.

    It is insane that the world is being fooled into thinking this is a republican thing when pretty much everyone in the files was in Democrat circles. And it is insane that 99.99% of people will never in their lives look at the Podesta emails and see just how obviously weird and similar to the Epstein emails they are. They would rather listen to the lie that there is nothing in the emails. Looking at the emails would break their entire world view.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Why are so many mens names redacted in the released files, while victims names are often not? They redacted Lex Wexners name until Thomas Massie called it out on X. Wexner is an Independent but was a Republican until a few years ago.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭silliussoddius




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    That's very interesting, but this does not change much at all, if anything it means that the justice must be done not just for the sake of victims, but for the security of nations as well.

    Did Mossad kidnap US politicians and billionaires and forced them to have sex with kids? No, Epstein was providing a service for depraved rich men who feel that they are above the law and human morals. These men should face justice, and when they are in prison they are not useful to Mossad any more, aren't they? It is while they are still free they can be blackmailed to betray their countries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,089 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    In distinctive raspy voice:

    'I did not fly on Epstein's jet with that woman, Miss Lewinskey'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,781 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,920 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    I was wondering what the response would be when it turned out the tiny bits of truth being loaded into craziness by QAnon turned out to be mostly republicans taking advantage of the conspiracy theorists' propensity to believe anything, I guess I have my answer. They voted for and supported the perpetrators.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    You should hear Alex Jones (not really, just rhetoric). He has the pedo ring he predicted, (which he didn’t of course, it was just recycled satanic panic where you accuse people you don’t like of horrible things and it doesn’t get more horrible than being a child abuser). Now he is totally ok with Trump protecting the globalist/cabal/WEF/Bilderbergs/Bohemian Grove/PFJ etc., because exposing them would destroy the establishment that he has always wanted to see smashed. And there are still people lining up to buy his dick pills and supplies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    Well played that man. She is rattled and rightly so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,932 ✭✭✭take everything


    You have invoked "satanic panic" a few times here. Are you saying the Epstein Files are a modern-day equivalent or have I misunderstood.

    There are many victims alleging serious wrongdoing by many men in those files, not just Epstein. Are you saying they are engaged in the equivalent of a satanic panic (incidentally you also seemed to have summed the whole thing up as just projection on the part of people making noise about the files- would that include Massie, Khanna, all the victims who have made allegations and testified, or even just ordinary people with their own kids who hate what is happening- are they all projecting and are they the real bad guys?).

    Why invoke Satan. There are very bad people in this world. It's not that hard to believe. Especially in this case where power and wealth is unchecked in a despicable bunch of people. Why is it so hard to believe this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,138 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Pretty sure the poster is ridiculing the "satanic panic" drivel coming out of qAnon circles there.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    I’m saying a lot of the more sensationalist/conspiratorial stuff is a modern iteration of the satanic panic.

    Conspiracies are very real and there are many conspiracies at play with the Epstein case: the really dark abuse stuff and also what seems to be more financial chicanery where I can accept many of the players were not involved in the other stuff.
    There is a difference between conspiracies and conspiratorial thinking, I would call conspiratorial thinking the kind of thing we see with QAnon and Alex Jones etc., massive claims based on no evidence and the claims are usually against people they don’t like. If you don’t like someone and want go discredit them then what gets worse than accusing them of being child abusers (the baby eating/sacrificing thing seems to be an iteration of the blood libel ideas against Jews). As with the satanic panic you have a massive all encompassing evil and those speaking out against it see themselves on the side of righteousness, throw in the dopamine hit of thinking you have access to secret knowledge and you’re off to the races.

    The Epstein case is riddled with conspiratorial thinking, let’s take Alex Jones. He sells himself on having talked about Epstein yet anything I’ve heard from him back in the day he seems to have never heard of him.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,181 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    We have been here before with intelligence services linked to organised sexual abuse, blackmail and satanic panic on this very island.
    MI5 were linked to the abuse at Kincora as is well documented but less well known is their role in stoking a satanic panic in 1970s Northern Ireland.

    They were also keen to link the Northern Ireland troubles with the Cold War and invented stories about Republican rendezvous’ with Soviet subs.

    The Man Who Knew Too Much is an interesting documentary about this era in NI.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,202 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    Lutnick said he’d never be in a room with Epstein again after seeing his unusual massage arrangements in 2005 but maybe the subsequent meeting on Epstein Island in 2012 was entirely outside? So, technically, yer honour…

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    I just don't think Epstein invented human trafficking, I don't think all trafficking emails are in his inbox, and I don't it has stopped. There is a new Epstein, and there are new texts and emails every day with people talking about this stuff in coded language. When the same coded language is being used in other leaked emails in bizarre sentences, it's worth having a look. But on rereading some of the Podesta emails, I don't really think something was up anymore. The language is extremely weird but I think more likely to be drugs or something if anything.

    This lazy hórseshit of saying QAnon / Alex Jones etc., as if you have to be a conspiracy theory nut to believe there is probably human trafficking going on in the upper echelons of power, in a thread with massive amounts of proof of exactly that happening, will never make sense to me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,920 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    This was you huffing and bottoming out on copium:

    And it still blows my mind that the Guardian can write that line above. The Epstein stuff is literally a Democrat pedofile ring

    This statement makes no sense as well, it's a water is wet addition to justify the above, somehow:

    I just don't think Epstein invented human trafficking



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,138 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    So many Republicans exposed as sexual predators, perverts, nonces and paedophiles. But Epstein was a Democrat only thing?

    How much MAGA propaganda would you have to be exposed to to believe such nonsense.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    New photo emerges of Howard Lutnick on a tropical island with other unindentified men and Epstein. Reports this photo has already been deleted from the DOJ website.

    Howard Lutnick under pressure to testify as new Epstein photo emerges

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    With the huge song and dance that Republicans made about Hilary's e-mails you don't think they would have publicised if there was something incriminating in there relating to pizza gate or Q anon? There was nothing incriminating in her e-mails, this questioning of her is a Republican attempt to muddy the waters.

    “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Hillary Clinton was asked about Pizza gate. Was asked about supposed codewords in the emails. She gets angry, calls it a conspiracy theory.

    Video of Bill Clinton answering some questions including about a letter he wrote to Epstein for his birthday.

    Video of Hillary Clinton's testimony to the House. She says she has never been on Epstein's island, or in Epstein's apartment or office.

    She said she knows Howard Lutnick because they worked together on rebuilding downtown Manhattan.

    Post edited by Ozymandius2011 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    Car crash interview for the Clintons.

     Bill Clinton described an arrangement with Epstein where the financier provided his private jet for "humanitarian" trips "in exchange for" Clinton discussing politics and economics with him. Of course Clinton did not know the female who gave him a massage was traficked by Epstein, an escort and an abuse survivor. And he did not know who was the other woman pictured beside him in the hot tub. But he denied having sex with her. I seem to remember the same thing happened with Monica Lewinsky until his sperm dna was found on her dress, he denied having sex with her too until he was proven wrong.

    We will never know what went on fully.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    At least they're speaking unlike Trump who is plastered all over the files but would rather start wars than discuss the files.



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