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Greatest League in the World 2026 [LOI Thread]

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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 12,408 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    No, I guess that would be commercially sensitive information.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,156 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Everything I’ve read so far suggests Rovers are guilty of something fairly damning on that Noonan complaint. Is there something I’m missing?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,818 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    From what has come out so far that would be my take too. Shams claiming they discovered a potential issue last August and brought it to FIFA only for David Sneyd to report that they've known since last February, right after Noonan joined, isn't a great look.

    Unless it's completely legal to do a deal with an agent agreeing to give them a % of a future transfer fee if they move their U18 player to your club? Sounds dodgy though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭PGE1970


    Would Pats not have a vested interest in this?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,483 ✭✭✭trashcan


    I saw a report somewhere (might have been facebook) linking Andy Lyons with Pats. Haven't seen anything on it since. Anyone else hear anything ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,156 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    I don’t think Pats would even know what the terms of his contract agreement would be. They’ve nothing to do with him from the minute he goes to Rovers (think they’d have preferred to keep him too).


    Not completely sure how Rovers can claim ignorance unless it’s not actually in the contract.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,156 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Unless his contract was terminated before Sunday evening, he can’t be signed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,239 ✭✭✭kksaints


    Could be a pre-contract for the Summer transfer window. He's injured atm and I don't think he'd be fit until at least April or May.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,194 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    He was an amateur with Pats (legally couldn’t sign a pro deal until 16) so none of this is relevant to them

    They’ll get a “development”’ cut of any transfer as he was there for 3 years before signing his pro deal with Rovers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭RamonD3


    David Sneyd did a great piece on Andy Lyons recently, would be sad for him if this latest injury has put paid to his career in England, it's a precarious livelihood they have from reading that, the likes of living on a month to month lease.

    A quick search on the 3rd party rules does not make for pleasant reading. This David Moss has an interesting roster looking him up there, lots of Irish prospects on the books



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,156 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    5 game away ban (or more if they draw Dundalk away in the cup for Drogheda fans. Disgusting behaviour from the FAI. How many innocent fans are having a large portion of their number 1 hobby (often vulnerable people with not much else going on in their lives) taken away over behaviour that they had nothing to do with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭adaminho


    Drogheda hit with a €15,000 fine and 4 match away ban. Also banned from visiting supporters in Oriel for the rest of the season.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 12,408 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    It's also a pseudo punishment for those clubs who may have empty away sections now. Some clubs will be able to sell what Drogheda would have brought to home fans, but it may be a revenue hit for others through no fault of their own.

    I think it shows a lack of willingness to hold individuals accountable for their actions. If, as reported it was essentially organized by an ultras group, it would make sense to ban members of that group. Not easy to police I know, but maybe it's time that specific approach was taken rather than a lazy punish all approach.

    I think the truth is there's no willingness at any level of governance, be it FAI, local or central government, including the Garda, to police games under the assumption that ever single person walking though the turnstile is a scumbag.

    How many times have you been held back for 10/15 mins in the freezing cold at an away ground in the interests of "security"? When you're finally let out then you inevitably walk into a pub or bus queue full of opposition fans anyway, with not an ounce of trouble.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭PGE1970


    Ridiculous decision that is disproportionate and lacks any sense.

    I can't remember away fans being banned before despite incidents at other grounds.

    I'm not in any way defending what happened, it was disgusting but banning decent fans for four games is ridiculous. It should at least be part suspended.

    I hope that it is appealed.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 12,408 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    We were banned out of United Park last year or the year before for the incident in Richmond when a flare hit Cian Byrne.

    I remember watching on LOI TV being pissed off, not because I wasn't there but you could hear a fúcking car alarm going off all game on the stream.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭PGE1970


    That made me laugh!

    Btw, I got the alarm fixed!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,156 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    What other section of the world would you be able to punish a few thousand people over something done by a handful? Third world dictatorship kind of behaviour.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭Smell the glove


    Happens all over Europe unfortunately. Look at Italy at the moment 3 teams got away bans for either the rest of the season or a couple of games.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,156 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Yeah I’m certainly not suggesting that it’s the first time it has happened, but it’s truly shameful behaviour.

    5 game ban for all the fans over flares being thrown on the pitch and an (admittedly extremely regrettable where the perpetrator should be found and dealt with by the correct means) incident where a young lad was hit by a flare.

    I knew Drogheda were getting a ban because Shels and Bohs did get 1 game bans over incidents where individuals were hit by flares. But 5 games is insanity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭deisedude


    Based on Patrick O'Donovans comments the other day I think the FAI had no choice but to hand down a hefty punishment. The FAI need the money from the government so are walking on eggshells



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,156 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Fans of clubs nationwide need to be fighting back on this. Could be your club or my club next time. The persecution of ordinary football fans is not acceptable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,636 ✭✭✭topmanamillion


    I agree with the sentiment but the government holds the purse strings for a lot of the leagues funding ie it has it by the short and curlys. The FAI jump when asked and I'd agree with them doing it. While a lot of the stuff O'Donovan was coming out with was sound bites the league can't afford to take the chance either.

    Just some of the government investment coming into the league:

    €300k for a new pitch in Oriel

    €3 million in funding this year for LOI academies. With more coming

    €16 million for the Showgrounds

    €25 million for Dalymount



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,156 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    I think it’s a bit unrealistic to think that government funding is going to be linked to that. The government provide funding to the league for one reason and one reason only, public will and the votes that come with that. I don’t think there is a moral bone among them.


    Even the Taoiseach came out and said it would be wrong for LOI funding to be affected over what happened. They know that taking on football would not be good for them. Not as bad as taking on GAA or rugby, but still.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 984 ✭✭✭steinbock123


    I was half listening to the radio today, but definitely heard someone (it may have been a GAA head) saying that flares are absolutely, completely, and utterly banned in Croke Park. The interesting bit was that he also said that they had sniffer dogs to find them.
    Why can’t the LOI borrow these self same sniffer dogs from the GAA and weed out a lot of the flare carriers, and ban them for life!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,818 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    They mentioned these dogs in the statement they put out earlier but it seems a bit far fetched. Might have them at a few games and then we'll never see them again when national attention shifts, but 180 games a season from next year? Not a hope.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,239 ✭✭✭kksaints


    There's still flares lit off in Croke Park at certain matches. There was an incident with one at the last Leinster Hurling Final with some Kilkenny fans launching a flare that landed at one of the entrances to the sections of Hill 16. I've been to a fair few matches in Croke Park and I've never seen a sniffer dog.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,239 ✭✭✭kksaints


    Drogs punishment is harsh on other clubs missing out on potential income from the away fans.

    I don't like collective punishment but unless fangroups give up the perpetrators that's what's going to happen.

    After Derby Riots: Fine and Partial Stadium Closures for Rapid Vienna - VOL.AT https://share.google/tsEVczPPwXb14HZ7p

    Here's the punishment Rapid Vienna got for some trouble at the recent Vienna Derby. Fine is much higher and there's a ban on the Ultras section for home matches.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,458 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    Sorry to say but I agree with this ban. Maybe it will push the decent Drogheda fans to police the thugs at future games. The FAI had to come down hard on Drogheda here, if not now, when? To damage a brand new pitch before kick off was the worst thing I have ever seen in LOI, just because the other team live a few miles down the road.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 12,408 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    Tonight is the last time on a Friday night that the Dublin Derby takes place under the iconic Dalymount floodlights.



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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 12,408 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    By the way "flare sniffing dogs"? Absolute bullshit.



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