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Would you visit USA in the current climate?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,389 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Saw the same yeah. You could spend as much as you want.

    This is one of my favourite places in NYC for example. https://www.emporiony.com/menus

    $25 for a pepperoni pizza which is about €18. Same price as Reggies here. Cheaper than Little Pyg or a takeaway from Base.

    But you can spend mental money of course if you dont check prices first.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 924 ✭✭✭bored65


    won’t be going for a while there’s direct flights to Mexico now and flights to Canada are reasonable, a much much nicer country and people where you don’t run the risk of ending up in a concentration camp or being shot in the head

    Waves at Palantir ai bot



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,759 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    You are a bit out on the currency conversion there. 😉

    Just checked on XE, and $25 = €21

    Is street food a thing in NY I wonder?

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,389 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Very much so

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    I was at the Feast of San Gennaro in Little Italy a few years ago. 90% of the food was piss poor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 923 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    I used to think, go somewhere else for a while. Now I think anyone going would be cracked in the head. Some parents won't go over to meet their children, who are legal citizens in the US, and people are reluctant to go over for work reasons.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,535 ✭✭✭kowloonkev




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭Benedict XVI




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,750 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    and then people wonder why there has been such an obsession in the USA with trying to keep a control of the southern border.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,164 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I’ve liver in the US for 2 months now. It’s my 2nd time living here. I lived here in 2012-2013 as well.

    **** me it’s expensive. Your average American is a very nice person. Haven’t seen an ICE raid and I’m not worried about one. I live in a 3800 square foot house, it’s appears to me made of papier mache.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth 8-bit


    Would I visit usa in current climate

    Get Fu¢ked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭jt69er




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,592 ✭✭✭Kalimah


    Depends where you are I suppose. I’m visiting California at the moment visiting family. I was a bit apprehensive going through immigration in Dublin airport but they were as nice as pie. I saw one anti ICE protest up near Lake Tahoe. Just a couple of signs saying F*** ICE etc and a couple of protesters waving at cars and acknowledging thumbs up etc. Seems to be business as usual here anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,327 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    When people ask me about living there, I always tell them, "It's fine, as long as you are earning decent money". But damn would I not want to live there if I lost my job or anything like that. And that was me without a family.

    When I moved from the US, I moved to a European country and the only thing the US has above where I live here is the opportunity/environment for entrepreneurship and then access to varied popular sporting leagues NBA/NFL/MLB etc.

    But from a quality of life perspective, the US doesn't appeal to me because you're on that knife edge of "If I lose my job", "If I get sick" etc.

    If I had to travel there for work now, I'd go without too much hesitation, but I wouldn't choose to holiday there at the moment. The vibes are off as they say. If you're not discussing the political scene, you're ignoring it, and neither feels like a comfortable experience to me at the moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,421 ✭✭✭Kaybaykwah


    .., and the fact that one of your compatriots has been jailed for 4 months has to enter into it. If one is not touched by that, one is not worth his/her weight in salt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭Benedict XVI


    Are you talking about Seamus Culleton?

    He's not the first and won't be the last Irish person detained by ICE.

    I know lads 16 years ago that were stopped for a speeding ticket in New Hampshire. It was determined by the cop that stopped them that they were illegal, they were shipped around a few detention centers and deported after a few months.

    Culleton has been given the option to get out of the detention center in the form of deportation, but he's obviously isn't taking it.

    He wasn't just picked up by ICE at random as he would like people to think.

    I'd say his recent application for residency after his recent marriage raised a few red flags with ICE.

    Apartently he was previously married to a US citizen in the US, they are now divorced and she has a restraining order against him.

    Why didn't he try getting residency when married to her a good few years ago?

    Once you scratch the surface of these ICE sob stories they tend not sob stories after all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭yagan


    The more I read about culleton the more I hope they keep him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭Benedict XVI


    What sort of clown was he thinking he could come on national radio with his sob story and no one would look into his back story from Ireland and the US ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,526 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    He doesn’t want to be deported because there’s a bench warrant out for him in New Ross after he didn’t turn up to court on a drugs charge. Went on the run instead. The last person I’d have sympathy for tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭yagan


    Not to go over it again but the last summation of the whole affair is he didn't go public, it was his sister that went to the Irish media without telling him. I think he preferred to keep it quiet so that his outstanding warrant in Ireland didn't come into his appeal against deportation.

    I suppose the media love a good underdog story so why he hadn't sought counsellor assistance after months in ICE detention was initially overlooked, but since then what small sympathy there had been for his overstaying a visa has been totally trumped by his absolute shyster behavior, especially the abandonment of his infant daughters.

    I think even they would prefer not to have him foisted upon them now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,214 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I would have no fear going to the USA and I may well be going before the end of this year (NYC). I would be curious about the general vibe over there and I'd enjoy chatting to the locals about the new dynamics and lived experiences. I have been to the USA a few times before (work mainly, 1 holiday) and for the most part I find the place and the people boring and a bit "samey" (with obvious exceptions of course) - I love history so much prefer Europe.

    Post edited by Cluedo Monopoly on

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭Acosta


    Many will have valid reasons for going there. Such as work and family. But I think to actually want to go there for a holiday, you'd want to be fairly ignorant and disconnected from what's happening over there. Or perhaps, be aware of these things, and just not care.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 11,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    Why would you feel justified in having no fear? This morning a read of a case where a guy was picked up by ICE, sent to a detentsion center etc…. eventually it turned up in court after he had got a good lawyer who eventually got a Habeas corpus hearing. The DJ's response - "We don't have a response in this case". The reason they did not have a response was because he would have been only 4 years old when he committed the drug trafficing offence! The charging documentation attached to the filing was for a person with same name but a diferent DOB, place of birth and much old. Now according to the reporter this is par for the course. They picking people up without doing their hope work, tossing them in for profit prisons and when the individual eventually gets to court - the is no response from the DJ and the judge orders them released. There are severa cases on record of judges complaining of this behaviour! There is nothing to say that something similar could or could not happen to you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,214 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Because I am a realist. It's extremely unlikely to happen to me. There are 40,000 road deaths in the USA every year. Would you fear that going there?

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,535 ✭✭✭kowloonkev




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,354 ✭✭✭DoctorEdgeWild


    Hoping to go around November, for a run of shows on Broadway (just depends on some rumours and casting etc). Have done so a dozen times and I know that rules have changed and things are a little more difficult, I would have no hesitation in booking and going over for a week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,535 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    Yeah this just shows the obsession people have. Talk about blinkers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,031 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    He was initially arrested because his visa application was in progress and he overstayed a visa back 20 years ago. There's plenty of people without child abandonment issues, drugs charges and arrest warrants who could have been arrested by ICE and detained in the same way.

    While nobody is expecting you to feel sorry for Culleton you do need to think about the similar process of what a potential law abiding citizen would go through

    As for keeping him in the states, I'd personally rather see him come home to face his criminal charges in an Irish court



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭yagan


    I feel the same way regarding the "samey" aspect. I've done a few driving holidays, but we found ourselves avoiding eating out and preferring to avoid the insincerity of their "customer service".

    When I worked there it was always jarring when some colleague would pronounce on some international situation with what I could only describe as Kids encyclopedia level of nuance and understanding.

    I guess I was disappointed that in such a broad and multimixed society the sum wasn't much beyond the superficial. The one topic they all loved circling back to was how much money they are or will make.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,389 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    When I worked there it was always jarring when some colleague would pronounce on some international situation with what I could only describe as Kids encyclopedia level of nuance and understanding.

    That's what people are doing on this thread about America tbf.

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