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Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    Worse take a look at their proposals it might benefit Ireland if the asylum seekers remain there .Hard to believe .The costing for this has not been done however that would be interesting.

    https://www.gbnews.com/politics/migrant-crisis-illegal-free-house-wage-healthcare-green-party



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,052 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    It is already too late.

    And it's the cities and urban areas who will get the brunt of it because that's where people who arrive here want to live.

    Ironically it's in these areas where politicial parties like the SDs and Labour who oppose deportations are most successful in getting candidates elected.

    Multiculturalism has failed in every European country, did we really think Ireland would have been different?

    It remains to be seen how the EU Migration Pact will affect us when it comes into operation but from what I've read online it could mean more migrants arriving here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭TokTik


    How many Irish emigrated to Nigeria, Pakistan, Afghanistan??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,555 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    The answer to the 'thousands of irish emigrated' is to ask how did native American indian tribes fair with that mass immigration to their land?

    Because thats the true equivalence if youre trying to use that analogy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 770 ✭✭✭iffandonlyif


    A video of the unprovoked punching of a woman by a non-national was shown on Crimecall. I’ve tried every way I can think of to link to the video, which is quite harrowing, but the fact that it wasn’t picked up by the media makes it very difficult. The best way to see it is to google ‘Crimecall Oliver Plunkett Street’, which will bring up a Reddit post.

    Incredibly, the attack happened in November but they are only releasing the video now. What could possibly explain the delay? And why are politicians and the media uninterested in addressing it? They scrambled to comment on and cover the bogus story of pupils at a girls’ school being told to wear less revealing sports clothes because it made the male teachers uncomfortable. Why have none of our feminist politicians anything to say now? It must be vanishingly rare in Ireland for a man to walk up to a woman and punch her like that.

    At the bottom of that Reddit thread there are eleven comments that were deleted by moderators. That is par for the course on Reddit. You’re not even allowed to point out the obvious.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭maebee


    The native American Indian tribes didn't give any of their money, medical cards, buggys etc. to the Irish emigrants. The Irish emigrants were badly needed and were not a drain on the U.S. system. It's a poor analogy to make as it was hundreds of years ago and the U.S. was only in its infancy when the Irish arrived and they practically built the country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,555 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    My point was the native Americans were robbed of their land and livelihood by European immigrants.

    Open borders type people talk about like its a positive analogy when discussing current immigration into Ireland.

    When the reality is its the exact type of comparison that should make every irish person want the tightest of immigration policies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,544 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    The answer when people bring that up is to point out we're all (mostly) the decedents of those who didn't emigrate hence why we're here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,746 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Mod Edit: Warned for trolling and posting in bad faith. A headline from 11 years ago is not relevant to current discussion. It's a shame posters don't think and read in full before rushing to comment and thank it.

    Post edited by Necro on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭Thorny Queen


    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/1868358-1868358.html

    Another one of our finest new locals. Hits an 11 year old on the train and gets away with it. He is a 9-5 rapper with no job basically. A rap sheet as long as my arm, pardon the pun.

    I called it 20 years ago when I first started teaching that we would have a huge amount of social issues in this country in the future. Our time has come.

    Letting people into the country with little to no education or morals who are too culturally different to us and who lack strong role models in their lives is just a horrible recipe of social disaster. Then dishing out social housing and benefits willy nilly so they have nothing to do or better themselves has not worked.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,052 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,665 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Punched an 11 year old for talking to his mother in their native polish, 24 previous convictions, no job but a great rapper, yeah he’ll be a great asset to us. Assume we’re supporting him and his family.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,357 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    A racist attack on a minor.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,575 ✭✭✭creedp


    If only a tiny % of the births in Asia/Africa in the years ahead need to flee to Ireland for a better life the Irish construction industry is going to have to seriously ramp up activity to be able to cater for the potentially massive influx of immigrants in the years ahead

    https://www.visualcapitalist.com/mapped-85-of-babies-in-2026-will-be-born-in-asia-and-africa/

    The question to be pondered is can Ireland save them all or should be develop a robust immigration system to prioritise those most in need of protection as against those who can best spin a yarn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭_Quilombero_


    Interesting. When an Irish soldier did this to that woman not so long ago, he was rightly named and shamed and it became a huge news story. The victim getting lots of publicity over it too and has made a name for herself as an activist over the whole thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭Stephen_Maturin


    Yeah it’s a bizarre and hypocritical form of doublethink - the crimes are only serious and worthy of discussion when the perpetrator is an Irishman.

    When Aisling Murphy was murdered there was media furore, all the commentators making calls for Irish men to “Stand up” and take responsibility for their behaviour etc etc and then when it came out the murderer was actually a Roma immigrant it all went silent for some reason.
    Likewise homophobia, misogyny etc is (rightly) not to be tolerated in any shape or form, but a blind eye is turned where Islam is concerned for some reason.

    There’s definite “no use dwelling on it, let’s move swiftly on” aspect to the coverage (or lack thereof) given to a story when the perpetrator is Irish vs a migrant and the example you’ve given re Cathal Crotty is a case in point. That scumbag should be plastered everywhere and prosecuted like Crotty rightly was.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    They did not go to America to claim asylum or get benefits but had to work. Your comment is baseless for those that remained .

    Post edited by rgossip30 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭Stephen_Maturin


    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1789qxgwywo

    Here’s a headline relating to the same story, it’s several hours old albeit - is that current enough?

    The Scots opening their own inquiry to join the main inquiry announced a few months ago, so there’ll be a full inquiry into the matter taking place across Britain.

    You might prefer to dismiss the issue but thankfully it looks like there’ll be some disinfecting light shed on it finally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 58,507 ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Mod: The fact remains that posters got very worked up about an 11 years old headline that was presented as new information. It is a great example of posting in bad faith.

    Nobody seems to want to acknowledge this at all. It's exactly this sort of posting (not you specifically Stephen, but I have deleted the rest of the conversation) which means people cannot have a reasonable discussion about immigration.

    If people are just going to blindly support any post that supports their view, irrespective of the context, then there is absolutely no point in debating a topic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,671 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Here’s a headline relating to the same story

    Was the 11+ year headline not a story about Yorkshire?

    You might prefer to dismiss the issue but thankfully it looks like there’ll be some disinfecting light shed on it finally.

    Hopefully.

    But what has a public enquiry focusing on Scotland and Scotland only have to do with this thread?

    Either way, Your post is pretty light on potential debate points.

    What happened is horrific and hopefully the enquiry will give some sort of solace to the victims who are calling for them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,052 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    He put up a video on tiktok basically blaming everyone but himself.

    Worth a look if you are on the app.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,671 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    The Irish Soldier gloated on his social media and was easily identified.

    The whole idea of Crime Call is to identify the suspect with the publics help.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,750 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Yes, but the big difference is we saw loads of condemnation from every feminist going about that attack and how awful Irish men are.

    Not a peep out of these type of people now that the perpetrator is almost certainly an immigrant because being in favour of immigration is higher up the list of priorities for the lefties of this country than women being assaulted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,750 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    the Green Party in the UK really are a detestable bunch and sadly quite dangerous as their leader is an absolute moron/conman.

    They demonized anyone who pointed out that immigration was dividing the country and leading to a balkanisation of the country as being racist then the decide to put out campaign video is foreign languages which basically completely backs up the point about the balkanisation of the UK.

    What Jim Radcliffe said a couple of weeks ago which he was demonized for has turned out to be true almost immediately after he said it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,750 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    There hasn't been any costing for it, they don't care, they just want to hand out freebies for potential voters so they can all land nice cushy jobs for themselves or life and because a large proportion of green membership in the UK almost certainly despise the UK itself and want to destroy it from within.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,671 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    The condemnation from almost everyone came when he received a wholly suspended sentence.

    There wasn't many comments about the case until then.

    They haven't been any arrest in this case that I am aware of, it's why Crime Call exists.

    You are comparing apples and anvils and have settled on a ridiculous conspiracy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,750 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    it's not a conspiracy theory to point out that condemnation and discussion varies depending on the ethnicity of the perpetrator because there is load of evidence to back this up.

    in the days after the Aisling murphy murder we were told how awful Irish men were and how misogynistic the culture in Ireland was and how cat calls and stupid sexist jokes were the root cause of this sort of behaviour. Then as soon as it was revealed the guy was from Slovakia this line of discussion was closed and culture weas now no longer relevant when it came to this crime.

    When the 2 guys in Sligo were murdered we were told this homophobic attack was a legacy of the homophobia of catholic Ireland and we should be ashamed as a country for this happening , once again the culture of the perpetrator was conveniently forgotten when it turned out he was a Muslim.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,671 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    it's not a conspiracy theory to point out that condemnation and discussion varies depending on the ethnicity of the perpetrator because there is load of evidence to back this up.

    What you are doing is dealing in extremes or amplifying extreme views.

    These extreme views are not just on one side of the spectrum.

    Plenty commentary suggesting Natasha O'Brien was a "mouthy bitch" who should have minded her own business.

    But trying to link two cases as evidence of this when a suspect hasn't even been caught is extreme and conspiratorial.

    When the 2 guys in Sligo were murdered we were told this homophobic attack was a legacy of the homophobia of catholic Ireland and we should be ashamed as a country for this happening , once again the culture of the perpetrator was conveniently forgotten when it turned out he was a Muslim.

    Who told you or who told "we"?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,628 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Mod - @Patrick2010, your post was deleted. Please just link to reputable media sources, not a randomer on X.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,671 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    https://www.rte.ie/news/connacht/2026/0226/1560559-we-run-as-one-sanctuary-runners-diversity-initiative/

    Great initiative in Galway.

    Much like the GAA clubs all over the world, it's a fantastic way to integrate into a community and society.

    It was the ground up initiatives like this one that welcomed and integrated the Ukrainians into Irish society and what a success story that has been, 4 years on from the invasion.



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