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Painful Swords traffic

  • 19-02-2026 07:56PM
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    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,952 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    I just need to moan!

    Balheary Road pipe work - bits closed off, bits one way.

    Roadworks to replace bus stops on the Main St

    Cycle lane being built from Woodies down to the Estuary

    Seatown Road still closed (18 months now)

    They've closed off one park entrance opposite court house for the rest of the year and knocked down the toilets that were only built about 2 years ago - the only public loos in the town.

    And, still to come next month, the removal of the roundabouts on the bypass to turn them into traffic lights to allow more cycle lanes, and ultimately the metro.

    Can only conclude they want people to only walk or cycle and never leave Swords again.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭MadeInKerry


    That is exactly what they want.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Fingal county council is full of ................ Ers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,509 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    I've been on about this before on boards.ie and it never ceases to amaze me. Swords has to be one of the most neglected large towns in Ireland, never mind Dublin. It’s full of hard working people paying mortgages, raising families, running businesses and contributing serious tax revenue, yet the infrastructure simply hasn’t kept pace with the growth.

    Metro North promised for what feels like a generation. Rebranded, redesigned, reannounced, pushed out, pulled back in. Meanwhile Swords has grown into one of the largest towns in the country without a rail link to the city or the airport beside it. Every morning and evening it’s the same story on the roads.

    I’ve just come back from East Galway where I drove for kilometres on an almost empty motorway. I mean completely empty… Fine road, no issue with that, but it cost somewhere between 8 and 15 million euro per kilometre. That’s serious investment. Yet in Swords, a major urban centre beside Dublin Airport, tens of thousands of people are still relying on buses stuck in traffic or have no choice but to drive.

    It’s not about Dublin versus the rest of the country. It’s about proportional infrastructure. Swords isn’t a rural village looking for a bypass. It’s effectively a city sized town with no rail, chronic congestion and years of political promises. People in Swords aren’t looking for special treatment. They just want the infrastructure to match the population and the taxes they pay.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,878 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭carltonleon


    And just so you are aware OP that when you say still to come next month the removal of the roundabouts on the bypass, that is the R132 Connectivity Project which has a estimated completion time of 25 MONTHS!!!!😡 This will literally bring Swords to a standstill

    R132 Connectivity Project



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,970 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    And, still to come next month, the removal of the roundabouts on the bypass to turn them into traffic lights to allow more cycle lanes, and ultimately the metro.

    Can only conclude they want people to only walk or cycle and never leave Swords again.

    These 2 sentences do not compute.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,952 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭PCros


    Question - are they are going to go ahead with the R132 Connectivity Project and then rip that all up again when the Metro is being built?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,990 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    In fairness those motorways serve a much bigger population than Swords.

    Swords is always going to suffer with the main street being unsuitable in so many ways for the traffic volume. And no rail. People moved to swords knowing it had no train. All over Dublin City the road network can no longer cope with the traffic. It's not unique to Swords.

    Swords and the Airport should have had a rail link long ago. No one's going to to argue otherwise. It's not getting fixed anytime soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,117 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Isn't current Minister for Transport elected by the good folk of Swords & surrounds?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 786 ✭✭✭feelings


    Indeed…the former Minister of Housing that gave us "affordable" housing…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭MadeInKerry


    You say that like you actually believe after a quarter century of promises that the metro will ever be built :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,567 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Yes, much to my shame

    Tesla lost the race to make humanoid robots, Fianna Fail beat then to it when they extruded Darragh O'Brien from whatever generic paste their politicians are made from

    If his head was any emptier of thoughts then it would implode from the vacuum

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,567 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I know this will be an unpopular opinion but I really think they should close off main street to cars and make the roads around it a kind of one way ring road

    Northbound traffic goes up church road, eastbound traffic only across bridge street and southbound traffic down chapel lane and Forster way

    If they could even do it at weekends it would improve the town a lot IMO

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,990 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    I'm rarely in Swords. But was passing through main Street recently on a Sunday late afternoon. It was constant stops on the main street due to buses and people parking and letting people out. I can only imagine what it's like on a week day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,509 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    The 52km M6 motorway section between Galway and Ballinasloe typically sees over 18,000 cars per week. Swords has over 40,000 people, and when you add Malahide, Donabate, Portmarnock, Balbriggan, Lusk and Rush, you are already at well over 120,000 in the immediate North Dublin corridor. That is a substantial population on its own.

    Then there is Dublin Airport. With around 36 million passengers a year, that averages close to 100,000 passenger movements per day. Add in more than 20,000 airport staff and you are looking at a very significant number of daily trips concentrated in the same area.

    So it is not just Swords in isolation. It is a large and growing population base combined with the country’s main international gateway, all relying on the same road network and still without a rail link. That is really the context behind the point, and we're not looking for a motorway for motorists alone, this is for everyone from tourists, commuters, school kids, college students etc..

    But hey… we're all in agreement. The Metro North needs to be prioritised, nobody can argue against that, I'm not from Swords, I don't live in Swords and it's painfully obvious to anyone in the country it's needed.

    Post edited by John_Rambo on


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,952 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    2 decades ago, they were saying the metro would be built within a decade. People who moved to Swords then had no reason to doubt that!

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,990 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    They had every reason to doubt that based on track record (pun intended) of infrastructure especially rail projects in Ireland. You'd want to be seriously gullible and naive to believe that baloney.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,990 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    You're being disingenuous. Malahide, Donabate, Portmarnock, Balbriggan, Lusk and Rush all have rail links. Many of the people going to the airport aren't going via Swords either, or traveling at peak.

    You're only dragging them in because you realize Swords doesn't have the numbers on it's own. East Galway has 114k+ and general Galway area 279k+. I dunno what some random part of the country has to do with Swords. Traffic around Galway is terrible.

    ALL of Dublin is congested. Swords is bad yes. But considering the places with luas, dart or rail are also congested. It's not going to fix that.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,567 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    my favourite bit of swords-related infrastructure; this bit of weirdness

    https://maps.app.goo.gl/CGcsUE27nwMwT3MX9

    is the infrastructure provided for people cycling to and from swords from the city centre side of the airport, and also for those walking to and from swords, i.e. both northbound and southbound. combined.

    and as you can see, at one point it was once down to a gap much less than a metre wide.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,509 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    The metrolink would service over 970k passengers per week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,990 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Have they put a shovel in the ground yet?

    How often has that been delayed. How about the electrification of the Maynooth line. Dart originally had three lines. They built one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,509 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    That was exactly what I said in post #7.

    With all due respect, maybe set up a thread about the Maynooth line in the Kildare forum. And maybe one about the empty motorways in the Galway forum.

    This is the North County Dublin forum, and we’re discussing the traffic here, how bad it is, how disconnected Swords is, and of course how the long-promised MetroLink would help.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,567 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Yep, was cycling on that recently, some fun in the dark trying to cross over the Naul Road with cars flying past

    The whole cycling infrastructure is terrible all the into the city. They seriously couldn't figure out a route for a separate cycleway and just chuck everyone on the road with the cars

    My particular favourite is just past the airport where the cycle lane disappears. It's like they expect the cyclists to despawn like Sim City or something

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,567 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Have they released any data on expected capacity at rush hour? My worry is that the thing will be built and immediately over capacity (memories of the M50 anyone?)

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,567 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    I assume you're talking about the location I linked in my post?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,567 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Well, that whole stretch up to the Cloghran roundabout was the subject of my ire

    The cycle lane on the pavement is terrible as well, especially going around the bus stop

    I'm actually struggling to think of a good part of the way into the city

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,990 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    With respect you introduced Galway to Balbriggan to Ballinasloe.

    I see making main street one way has been suggested a few times over the years. Always gets shut down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,986 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Swords is in the top then most populated urban areas in the entire country.

    In addition you have in demand facilities and amenities like the Pavilions, various other shops, restaurants, pubs…county council offices where a few hundred people work…

    Another fine example of this kicking the Metro down the line to just delay spending money yet causing havoc for people by doing so. Funny how billions of taxpayers money were found rather unexpectedly and at short notice for other reasons. 😏



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,821 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    The road closure on Seatown Road for 18+ months with no end in sight is a bit of a joke. There is no way it would have been allowed if it was a private development - they would have been required to keep access as part of the construction plan.



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