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Limerick improvement projects

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭source


    Modern sash windows come in wood, aluminum and upvc. They're styled to look like the traditional windows but that would have been in the building but have modern features, like double or triple glazing. You can see them on some of the refurbs that have been done already on Barrington St and The Crescent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,611 ✭✭✭sioda


    Yes in a heartbeat. Well made wooden windows are excellent. They also have a bit more flex which the opening in older buildings may need.

    When your looking at repro sash windows the aluclad ones imo just look cheap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,071 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    7 Lower Mallow Street A.png

    Georgian Building - 7 Lower Mallow Street

    5 x One Bed Apartments, Communal Garden.

    Nice restoration work by a local company Finaly Group. 👍️

    Original sash windows, front door and M-Roof restored.

    Hope to see more Georgian projects coming from them.

    See also NBHS

    7 Lower Mallow Street B.jpg 7 Lower Mallow Street C.jpeg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,071 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Georgian Buldings 6 - 7 Newenhan Street A.jpg Georgian Buldings 6 - 7 Newenhan Street B.jpg

    Georgian Buildings 6 - 7 Newenham Street

    8 x One Bed Apartments, Communal Gardens

    Original front windows, front doors and M-Roof restored by Finlay Group.

    Two little gems.

    See also NBHS 21517122 and 21517123

    Georgian Buldings 6 - 7 Newenhan Street C.jpg Georgian Buldings 6 - 7 Newenhan Street D.jpg Georgian Buldings 6 - 7 Newenhan Street Door.jpg


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,464 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Those types of projects are happening all the time around the city. They just don't get any publicity.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,071 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Yes, you mentioned those two last year.

    There is very little material on 5 Cecil Street.

    Maybe time to start a designated thread for Limerick's Georgian Heritage?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 922 ✭✭✭DylanQuestion


    Those restorations are incredible!!! I especially love the exposed stone/brick on the gable wall on Lower Mallow Street and the rear wall on Newenham Street. The city centre has huge potential. Now if they could reduce the directional road signage, narrow the road carriagways and add some more trees. More city centre living would be good too. As I think I posted before, I had the pleasure of visiting Limerick last year (or maybe 2024, I forget now) for a match in Thomond. The city centre gave big city vibes in most ways except the ambience. Despite being a sunny match day, the place was dead



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    It’s a pity that all of these Georgian renovations are then going straight to homeless charities like Novas instead of on the open market for young adults/young professionals.

    I know plenty of people (myself included) who would love to live in one of these apartments.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭Vanquished


    It's a scandal really. There are enough social problems in the city centre without compounding them by concentrating yet more addiction/mental health support accommodation facilities in a small area. It risks undermining social cohesion even further.

    All you need to do is take a stroll around the Upper Henry Street area at the South Circular Road end and you'll see the devastating impact of Novas McGarry house on the local community. Property thefts and break ins are an enormous issue up there now. The amount of addicts and drug runners passing through at all times of the day is completely out of control.

    If the city centre is ever to thrive again it must be heavily repopulated. Refurbishing the stock of Georgian townhouses, which obviously were originally built as homes 200 years ago must be at the core of that objective. We also need people with disposable income living in the city centre to support existing businesses and to help attract further investment. Peppering the place with people on welfare or other state supports is just a recipe for further problems.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    I wholeheartedly agree but you often get called a snob if you voice this opinion by the usual pearl clutchers who would be the first to object to such a development if it was in their neighbourhood.

    I also have an issue with the current planning exemptions that allow for the conversion of vacant commercial units to residential without planning permission. The amount of crapping bedsits that are popping up in our city centre is shocking. Slum landlords thriving, city centre suffering and vulnerable tenants (often immigrants) being taken advantage of.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,464 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Are we sure that these two refurbs were sold to AHBs?

    Shineline (which now seems to be Finlay Group) refurbed and sold these buildings on the private market.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    Both buildings on Newenham Street are owned by Novas.

    I don't ever remember them being listed following renovation by Shineline so deals were more than likely done at an earlier stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,071 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Those two houses on Newenham Street were mentioned on RTE two years.

    I hope that Novas live up to be good and consequential landlords as stated in their tenant's handbook. 👍️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭HGVRHKYY


    It is actually disgraceful that any renovated housing in such central areas would go to anyone other than either private buyers or renters. The city centre needs way more individuals who require city centre living for close proximity to their work, especially young people who are far more likely to contribute towards the local economy by going out and actually living life in the area. Addicts and homeless people aren't going to contribute much economic activity, that might be an uncomfortable truth but it's the reality, they won't bring about positive influence to the very centre of a city compared with young hardworking individuals who want to enjoy their free time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,954 ✭✭✭adaminho


    There's no one stopping anyone from buying and renovating these buildings and selling/renting them for profit. The fact is it's only these charities that are doing it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭Vanquished


    It's not just charities renovating these buildings. Many private individuals and investors are restoring Georgian townhouses also. There are 4 such buildings on Cecil Street being renovated for private rental currently.

    Unfortunately though charities like Novas and the McVerry Trust with significant state subsidies behind them are outbidding many would be private purchasers who wish to get their hands on townhouses in the city centre.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,030 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    I'd go one step further and say the addicts and homeless create a negative economic effect as it discourages young hardworking individuals living and enjoying their free time in these areas.

    At the same time the homeless and addicts need to live somewhere, and their support offices are based in the city centre. Putting them in these apartments is not ideal but much better than them being on the side of the street.

    The only real solution is to fix the homeless crisis and apply the existing laws to drug dealers and users but there's a huge lack of political will on that front



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,670 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The city centre is easier because they would be NIMBYed out of any established housing estate.

    Not that I blame people for not wanting them in their estates but if you don't want them in your estate and you don't want them in the city centre then you want them in someone else's estate which obviously isn't fair either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,504 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    I think Dr. Kevin Kelleher owns that building along with others on Cecil Street and Newenham and Catherine Streets, all set in flats.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,504 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    What is that multi-story development being built at Clonmacken near Na Piarsagh GAA ground ?



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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Probably the apartments in Knock Hill.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,464 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    The Rugby Experience thread is still borked so I'll post here.

    The building has been offered to the State who are considering using it as a national women's museum.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/2026/02/24/state-considers-accepting-gift-of-shuttered-limerick-rugby-space-to-open-womens-museum/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 296 ✭✭rjoe90


    Surely they have learned from the rugby museum that having a museum dedicated to a specific thing is not a good business model.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,464 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    If it's State run and part of the National Museum of Ireland it won't need a business model. It will be free entry and will be financed via the State and donations.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Wasn't the rugby thing billed as more of an "experience"? Interactive screens, etc? I'd say combining those with actual artefacts, publications, music, posters, etc should allow for a great showcase of achievements across the various floors.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭Glenomra


    A truly brilliant idea imo. Hopefully, the execution of the idea is equally as good. Women's' role in Irish life and history certainly needs to be documented . Increasing interest in the role of women in Irish history in recent years as reflected in subjects such as the origins of Saint Brigid as a Celtic Goddess etc etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 296 ✭✭rjoe90


    It will be good to have the unit filled regardless



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,670 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The national museums are not a business. All their sites are about a specific thing although some like archeology or natural history are more obvious choices than rural life or design.

    Women wouldn't be my choice of theme but if the national museums and not the council are paying the bill then let them off. Think of it as investment in jobs and tourism for the city.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭geotrig


    can only be a good thing as above museums unless privately run shouldnt and dont follow the standard business model, 1st thing i do when i go to any city /town in the world is check out their local museums it can only be a good thing in the long run and would be nice to see it stay in the public domain as an attraction.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,670 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Being free it also means you could just pop in at any time just for the viewing gallery even of you don't like the museum.

    The national museums also tend to have special exhibitions so it won't be a see it once venue for locals and done like the rugby experience or King John's.



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