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HELP!!! Something (cat?) digging up my pots

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 33,255 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Aaaaaand another digging session last night.

    No pic this time, far too wet and cold, but just said I'd add to the record.

    This despite my latest attempt to deter... half a pack of mini bamboo skewers stuck in all over the box .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,904 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    Are you sure you don't sleepgarden?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,178 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Planted my pot of red cyclamen and a few other spring plants yesterday .It's outside the back door in the rain .

    Now waiting for the digging to begin 😳



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 33,255 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    I'd be a hell of a lot tidier about it if I did!!!



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 80,815 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Not if you're a case of Dr Jekyll (not Gertrude) and Mrs Hyde (Park). 😄



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,303 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Sometimes it seems inevitable that cyclamen will be dug up, I've lost loads over the years but I don't learn…however at the moment I have some in planters and some in the garden and so far they are all surviving. It seems as though if they can survive 6 months they won't be dug up. (Crosses fingers). They do sometimes go rotten though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,178 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    These are / have flowered already so fingers crossed.Maybe whatever it is doesn't like older bulbs .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,303 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Possibly its just that they have more root growth and are well anchored.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,178 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 714 ✭✭✭waterfaerie


    It doesn't sound like they're trying to dig things up though, since they're just throwing them out of the planter or out of their way. It sounds more like they're trying to bury things and coming back to check on the things they've buried. This really makes me think, like others have suggested, that it's crows or magpies who are known to cache food.

    If that's the case, it would be easy enough to catch the culprit, since they're not nocturnal. Just get up before dawn and spy on the planter from a distance.

    If you get up before dawn and damage has definitely been done during the pitch dark of night, the only other thing I can think of that hasn't been mentioned is rats. They also cache food and they are extremely clever and persistent.

    But it does look more like birds and also you said chilli powder didn't work. Mammals will be put off by it but birds won't.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 33,255 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    I was away for almost a week, so took the camera indoors - got back yesterday, and this morning one box all dug up again 🙄 Of course I hadn't thought to put the camera back out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,303 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    It wasn't dug up while you were away? Those birds know something!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 33,255 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    I was amazed when I got back yesterday and they were both still intact!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 33,255 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Some small good news for this thread for once!

    Despite all the repeated trauma, a few plucky bulbs still managed to put out flowers 💪❤️

    For reference, there were about 60 assorted mixed daffs and bluebell bulbs between the two boxes.

    And for further reference, below is one of the ones on the ground that the feckers never touched 🙄

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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 80,815 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    The one on the ground is terracotta. Could it be the material of the window boxes that attracted the birds? Considering they see a whole different colour spectrum to us, I wouldn't exclude it completely.

    Either that, or they were trying to tell you to thin out the bulbs because they were too crowded. 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    Was looking at my potted plants today, found a lewisia cotledon and saxifraga pulled from their pots and dumped on the ground. Also soil from a pot with a load of small bulbs (either muscari, pushkinia or ipheoin, can't remember what I planted were) scattered everywhere.

    Would this be birds collecting things for their nests? I've seen starlings pull out moss and leaves from our gutters on a few occasions this time of year.

    “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 80,815 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    They're lifting the moss to get to the grubs and worms and bugs underneath.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    Thanks. That's annoying. I really hope they don't do it to any more pots. I have bird feeders and I keep them well stocked, but I can imagine they would prefer live insects to seeds.

    “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 33,255 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Having thought I was finally out of the woods, I came out one morning about 10 days ago to this…. and since then they've been disturbed again, my other teracotta boxes on the ground have been gone at, plus another pot also on the ground (which has big rocks on the soil). A couple of empty eggshells also left, one in a big pot that only has a bit of soil in the bottom, nothing planted, and another on the ground near it (there was another one out in the middle of the road as well). Turns out we have a mad cat lady (surprisingly young) around the corner who reportedly leaves food out (including eggs) for the foxes and feral cats in the area, so at least that explains that bit.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,303 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    The birds that eat grubs would (mostly) not be interested in eating seeds.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    Why do you think it is foxes or cats and not birds?

    “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    Apparently it was blackbirds, the other half saw it. I see them in the garden a lot, but now that I think about it below the feeders but not eating from it. I thought they were eating ones that fell loose like the pigeons do.

    Is there anything I can do for them in the winter? Do they need support then?

    “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,303 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Its becoming a bit of a debate whether we should feed birds, but I am not up to date with the arguments. Short of any better advice, I think the best thing you can do for the blackbirds and robins and wagtails that hop around the ground is put up fatballs. The bluetits and other small seed-searchers eat the seed and toss the fat onto the ground, where the other birds find it. At the moment the grub eaters are fine for live food, but the seed eaters have a lean time as there is little seed food at the moment, so just go on as you are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 33,255 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    I think the weekly destruction of my window boxes is probably birds. And maybe the ones that are now being dug up that are on the ground. Why they're doing it, I have no idea - they dig all the way to the bottom (and those boxes are about 8 in inches deep) usually in one corner, firing entire plants and bulbs all over the place, but don't seem to bury anything and those boxes were planted with new compost in the autumn so they're hardly rich with worms and grubs.

    I reckon the eggs are definitely foxes. I have found numerous eggs (mostly intact, shop bought ones with date stamps on them) over the years, buried deep in pots and beds, but I had no idea until recently where on earth they were getting them until I heard about the cat lady.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,407 ✭✭✭tampopo


    For us, blackbirds love apples cut in half. Ground feeding.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    Oh I get that now regarding foxes. I actually had magpies pull up a load of small bulbs I planted in the back of my side garden in January (bought loads when reduced), I'm guessing it was ipheoin as I've had a few of everything else come up. It was definitely either one bulb variety or either one location they were interested in mucking up, as in the same general area Tulips, muscari, pushkiana, crocuses and glory of the snow have all appeared. I have daffodils and narcissus nearby and they were fine too. They must have some motivation to do it, maybe just mischief.

    “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    I have one fatball feeder and one seed feeder for the birds, might explain why the backbirds hang around underneath the feeder so. I used to have a niger seed feeder as well, but they clogged if they got wet in the rain so I gave up on it.

    “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,734 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    You also need to be aware you can also end up feeding rats.

    I'm not suggesting you do but some people have no regard for how much they put out and how much spills on the ground. If a lot of seed ends up on the ground rats soon move in and take advantage.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    That's a good thing to point out, thanks. Happened with my mother in law, the rats were actually feeding directly from the fat ball feeder, it was one with large openings. Don't worry the pigeons hoover up everything that gets on the ground. Have a side camera and never saw a rat near the feeder day or night. There's a lot of cat turf wars in the garden at night, so between that and a cafe nearby with more appealing rubbish I think they have better places to be. I only top up the feeders in the morning, so the seed feeder is nearly empty most evenings. fat ball feeder gets topped up every few days.

    “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


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