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Cavity wall pumped insulation

  • 23-10-2018 10:31AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13


    Hi just a quick question.is it worth my while pumping the cavity of my house. I already have 60mm in it and a 38 mm insulated slab on all the internal walls would it make any difference to heating costs or would it be just a waste of money


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  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 44,927 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    yes it would make a difference, as long as its not a brick house near the coast


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 Nealmeehan


    Thanks just not sure if it is worth doing it or not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,986 ✭✭✭MicktheMan


    OP, based on the information you give, I would say that in all likelihood it will have little if any impact and be a waste of money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭neddynasty


    Jumping on this thread rather than opening a new one.

    My house has 40mm high density insulation in the cavity with a further 60mm that could be filled. I don't have insulated plasterboard in the internal walls. House built in 2005. It's not particularly drafty or anything and heats up quick enough. Probably could hold the heat longer.
    In my setup would pumping the cavity with the silver bead insulation have an impact on heat retention?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,986 ✭✭✭MicktheMan


    neddynasty wrote: »
    Jumping on this thread rather than opening a new one.

    My house has 40mm high density insulation in the cavity with a further 60mm that could be filled. I don't have insulated plasterboard in the internal walls. House built in 2005. It's not particularly drafty or anything and heats up quick enough. Probably could hold the heat longer.
    In my setup would pumping the cavity with the silver bead insulation have an impact on heat retention?

    Impact? yes; how much of an impact? who knows; Why? Insulation affects conductive heat loss mainly whereas most Irish houses suffer convective heat losses the most and insulation has little to no impact with that.

    A full heat loss survey will tell you exactly what's happening and what should / shouldn't be done etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭worlds goodest teecher


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    yes it would make a difference, as long as its not a brick house near the coast

    Sorry to jump in on this thread but just wanted to ask why not pump cavity in houses near the coast? Does it absorb moisture?

    We received our pre house purchase survey this evening from a structural engineer. The house is 20 years old and approximately 200m from the sea. He suggested that the house would benefit from installing a air to water heat pump or pumping the cavity walls. I do not think the house is air tight enough for a heat pump.


  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 44,927 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Sorry to jump in on this thread but just wanted to ask why not pump cavity in houses near the coast? Does it absorb moisture?

    .

    becuase the product isnt certifed for use in these areas.

    for example:
    http://www.ecowarm.ie/pdf/Ecobead-Cavity-Wall-IAB-Cert.pdf
    3.11.2 Severe Exposure
    Severe exposure to wind-driven rain applies in
    districts where the driving rain index is
    5m²/sec/year or more (see Figure 2). During the
    pre-insulation survey of any particular building,
    due regard to the exposure zones and type of
    masonry construction must be assessed prior to
    the commencement of the installation process.
    In severe exposure areas the type of outer leaf
    masonry finish where EcoBead and EcoBead
    Platinum Cavity Wall Insulation System are
    suitable is:
    Impervious cladding and rendered walls with
    a minimum cavity width of 90mm and up to
    12m in height.
    Unrendered brickwork is not suitable for injected
    full-fill cavity wall insulation in the severe
    exposure zones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭worlds goodest teecher


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    becuase the product isnt certifed for use in these areas.

    for example:
    http://www.ecowarm.ie/pdf/Ecobead-Cavity-Wall-IAB-Cert.pdf

    This if from the engineers report:

    The property is a single storey domestic house. The structure is of solid concrete block which does have a cavity, walls are rendered outside in a plaster finish and internally in a skim finish. Some of the internal walls have an insulated slab. The main building is approximately 25 years old.

    The roof has had an insulation upgrade thought should be given to pumping the cavities.


  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 44,927 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    This if from the engineers report:

    The property is a single storey domestic house. The structure is of solid concrete block which does have a cavity, walls are rendered outside in a plaster finish and internally in a skim finish. Some of the internal walls have an insulated slab. The main building is approximately 25 years old.

    The roof has had an insulation upgrade thought should be given to pumping the cavities.

    I was referring to a brick house in my post


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭worlds goodest teecher


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    I was referring to a brick house in my post

    My apologies, so the exposure level is not a factor for bead insulation with a block cavity which is rendered?

    Would you have a rough idea of the price per sq meter for cavity insulation assuming there is little to none existing insulation.


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  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 44,927 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    My apologies, so the exposure level is not a factor for bead insulation with a block cavity which is rendered?

    Would you have a rough idea of the price per sq meter for cavity insulation assuming there is little to none existing insulation.

    Generally block builds are fine, once the rendering is good.

    On the pricing, it's been a while since I've seen bead quotes, and it's dependent on the thickness your pumping, but I think budgeting around €10-12 per sq m of the dwelling would be about right


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 798 ✭✭✭bunderoon


    Resurrecting this old thread - to those who got cavity wall insulation done over the last number of years, how has it gone for ye? House stays warmer for longer?



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