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US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    From AXIOS:

    BREAKING: Axios reports that there is evidence that US war with Iran is "imminent" and Israel is preparing for a scenario of "war within days," which is expected to include:

    1. Weeks-long "full-fledged" war unlike the Venezuela operation, sources say
    2. Joint US-Israeli campaign that is much broader in scope than 12-day war in June
    3. US armada now consists of 2 aircraft carriers, 12 warships, hundreds of fighter jets, and multiple air defense systems
    4. More than 150 US military cargo flights have moved weapons systems and ammunition to the Middle East
    5. Another 50 fighter jets in 24 hours, including F-35s, F-22s, and F-16s

    Oil prices are surging above $64/barrel on the news.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,696 ✭✭✭yagan


    If the aim now is the same as the original installation of a tyrant Shah to extract oil wealth then it's not going to be very sustainable considering how all the oil companies have stressed how unprofitable Venezuelan oil is, despite concessions.

    An Iran attack could become to the petrodollar what the suez canal crisis was for what was left of the British empire, a tipping point.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭aidanodr


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭mulbot


    Do you think it's OK for Israel to allow overseas visitors, people who've never set foot there, steal the land and homes of those that live there?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    From a former Irish Army Ranger:

    "Probably a good idea to get the home heating oil refilled over the next few days if necessary…Also sensible to keep the car topped up with fuel …. "

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭aidanodr


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,181 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    War will mean anyone critical of Trump can be dismissed as un American as soon as the coffins of US service personnel start coming home.
    The conflict will unite Americans however briefly and for some, deepen the bonds with their greatest ally Israel.
    The risks are huge, a worldwide recession and energy price spike. The benefits are……protection of Israel.

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    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    I would also add the EPSTEIN FILES .. trump will do literally ANYTHING to distract. There's nothing he wouldn't do to save his own a*se. EVERYTHING is in service of what he wants inc potential world war

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    From the Institute for the study of War:

    NEW: Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei rejected the United States’ demands for Iran to halt uranium enrichment and limit its ballistic missile program in a speech on February 17. Khamenei’s speech coincided with the second round of US-Iran talks in Geneva, Switzerland. Iran has presented several proposals to the United States that do not meet the United States’ demand for zero enrichment. Iran seeks significant economic relief in return for the limited nuclear concessions it has offered to make.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,628 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    What follows the current regime won't really matter to most advocates for the war with Iran provided any potential successors are friendly to the West. They will quickly move on to other matters.

    This is why we don't hear much about Iraq in the media these days despite regular criticism of it by freedom house and Human Rights watch . The moral is if you kill and generally repress civilians make sure you are an ally of the West to avoid moral indignation and subsequent threats of military action. At worst you might get a mild rebuke, but you are safe from military action.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,696 ✭✭✭yagan


    @SafeSurfer

    The Venezuela coup barely moved the dial on prices. Heating oil prizes actually dropped in the run up to the coup the subsequent rise wasn't anything unusual out of the usual price cycle.

    This really is just a desperate attempt to distract from Trump's pedo problems.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭aidanodr


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,852 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Venezuela outputs 1% of the global supply where as over 20% of the worlds supply needs to pass by the Strait of Hormuz. In the event of a war, that could become a choke point. There's also the risk of Iran attacking oil production in neighbouring countries.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Everlong1


    Oh I'm under no illusions about why the U.S. and other Governments would be happy to see the mullahs gone. Triump et al would be perfectly happy to see another tin pot thug installed as long as he was happy to be their puppet. My sympathies are with the decent ordinary people of Iran which is why I'm wondering what's likely to happen in the aftermath.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,696 ✭✭✭yagan


    @Wolf359f

    In which case it's not about it iranian oil, but elevating the price of US oil exports.

    Of course this won't do Trump any favours if it drives up the cost of gasoline for us consumers.

    For everyone else it will just accelerate the drive towards renewables like solar.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭bored65


    Considering that most of the Gulf oil these days goes to China and India, and US producers are hurting due to Venezuela

    For Trump a disruption there would be seen as a plus not a negative, that’s assuming they even thought that deeply… which I doubt

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,603 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,441 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Don't forget about the worlds largest LNG producer just on the doorstep.

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    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 978 ✭✭✭batman75


    All indications are that Iran will be attacked by an American/Israeli alliance. They won't have the element of surprise this time. It also looks like the Russian and Chinese have been helping Iran beef up it's air defences. I can't see the Iranians taking a pre-emptive strike.

    Given that Trump boasted of destroying Iran's nuclear facilities them going back in again this time looks like a regime change effort. Given that Trump is full of bs I think it's likely that their nuclear facilities were compromised but not destroyed.

    Israel's having nuclear weapons may serve as a limiter to Iranian strikes on Israel. It would likely take an existential threat to Israel's existence for them to play the nuclear card. If they do strike using nukes then I expect Pakistan to come to Iran's aid.

    It all leaves me wondering what does Israel have on Trump or the decision makers on Capitol Hill?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,852 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    There are no if's, a war with Iran (short of strategic strikes which Iran don't further escalate) will drive up the price of oil worldwide. In which case the US public will see that with the price of gas at the pump. Not like Trump would give a **** about. He'll still waffle on about $1.99 gallons.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,441 ✭✭✭brickster69


    US government purchased and smuggled 6000 Starlink terminals into Iran in January. Also the treasury secretary admitted they attacked the currency which created economic stress in the country.

    Good bit of digging again from the Grayzone on the connections between the journalist who came up with the story on 30K deaths in the January riots.

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭aidanodr


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,585 ✭✭✭Marty Bird


    Maximum economic pressure on Iran from the US according to Bessent.

    🌞6.02kWp⚡️3.01kWp South/East⚡️3.01kWp West



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,645 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Few explosions around ammo stockpiles and building the last few days. Looks like they are getting softened before a main aerial assault.

    China has a few interesting naval assets in the area. Could level the playing field a bit in terms of air defence.

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    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    Israel is making Iran stronger.

    Israeli intelligence operations inside Iran are widely interpreted in Chinese commentary as illustrative of how modern conflict unfolds. Intelligence warfare – combining cyber access, human networks, administrative penetration, and precision enablement – reshapes the strategic environment before conventional escalation becomes visible.

    Beijing’s response reflects this assessment. Digital insulation, navigation substitution, radar modernization, satellite-supported monitoring, multilateral coordination through the SCO (Shanghai Cooperation Organisation), and long-term economic engagement form a layered counterstrategy.

    In this framework, resilience takes precedence over retaliation. The objective is to reinforce systems rather than escalate confrontation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    Iran issued a notice to airmen that it plans rocket launches in areas across its south on Thursday from 330 GMT to 1330 GMT, the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration website showed on Wednesday.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭Roman Emperor


    Ah, but Gaza is nothing more than a massive concentration camp on Israeli territory.

    Access to the most basic of life's necessities within the camp is at the discretion of the Zionist overlords.

    To say Palestinians under Israeli rule are well treated is beyond laughable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭Spudmonkey


    The "Israel is the only democracy" in the region is not quite the flex people think it is. Any other country can hide behind the fact their non-elected government doesn't stand for them. Israel on the other hand. Well we know their people elected the fascists running their country cause well they're pretty happy with genocide for the most part.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,181 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Pakistan won’t get involved in coming to Iran’s aid in the event of Iran being struck with nuclear weapons. The two countries were involved in a military exchange in 2024.

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    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭bored65


    Which is a travesty, but notice how often the 36500 Iranians killed in the first two weeks of this year alone (and we not even two months done) is mentioned



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