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Ireland vs Israel - To play or not to play, that is the question Read OP for Mod Warning

  • 14-02-2026 01:37PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,319 ✭✭✭✭


    Starting this thread as I think it is a topic that deserves discussion and don't feel it would be fair to have much of that discussion in the Ireland Football thread and the topic might get lost within the main Israel Thread.

    Ireland have been drawn to play Israel in the Nations League football with the games scheduled to take play in autumn.

    Already there has been significant commentary about whether or not they should play and the FAI have said they will fulfil the fixture. At least one well renowned person within Irish football, Brian Kerr has said they shouldn't play them because of what they have done and are doing to Palestine in general and Gaza in particular.

    For people who want to dismiss this entire topic with "Politics shouldn't be involved in sport". I disagree. Politics and sports have long been intertwined and even now, the FA does so with the Poppy remembrance every year, the US does it every Autumn with military displays at games and flyovers occur at games regularly and organisations like the IOC, UEFA and more stepped in immediately to ban Russia because of its actions in Ukraine. And the FIFA president, Infantino has gone out of his way to involved his organisation not just in politics but in the Middle East conflict itself.

    What do people think? Play or don't play? Play and protest? Or just treat it like another game and put all effort in to hoping Ireland scrapes a win.

    Mod: The topic of the thread is the Ireland/Israel matches scheduled for later this year. Not the wider conflict between Israel and Palestine. There will be some natural overlap for context but posts that go wildly off topic into referencing the primary conflict without at least giving an attempt to link it to this particular discussion will be deleted. I've already deleted a number of tangential posts that can be discussed in the main thread.

    We are allowing this thread to continue at the moment as it is relevant in relation to Ireland (and the national football team) specifically, and this is an Irish discussion forum.

    However, if posters want to drag up old conflicts and grudges with each other from the main thread it will be closed.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,319 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Personally I lean towards preferring if Ireland refused to play. Broadly speaking I've agreed with our position as a country in calling out Israel (at the same time we could have gone further) and I've been proud of the general motivation in the country of the public advocating strongly for Palestine.

    But right now, I also I can understand if they do play, financially, they need every game they can play and UEFA wouldn't react positively to Ireland if they do refuse to play. And it would draw the ire of a what is a vindictive administration in the US which as a country, spends a lot of its time picking fights on behalf of Israel. If the FAI did decide to boycott (because of Israeli escalation etc) I would absolutely support them and would be proud of them making such a decision.

    If they do play, I would hope that the Irish supporters would use it as an opportunity to protest very very loudly about Israel's actions and look to make this a visual protest as well as an audible one as much as possible irrespective of calls to not show flags etc. I know UEFA would act in respect of that also, but it would be less damaging than not fulfilling a fixture I feel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,750 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    It's sport , the entire point of it is competition, you play the game and beat them.

    Anything else is just being a coward

    Want to register an objection, want them kicked out of UEFA etc fair enough but refusing to play once they have been allowed to participate in the game would be pathetic and is against the entire point of sport.

    Ireland had no problem playing Qatar,Saudi Arabia, Iran etc in the past all of whom have questionable human rights records.If Ireland were set up to play UAE in the morning there wouldn't be a peep out of the people objecting despite UAE funding the killing of civilians in Sudan.Nobody had a problem playing USA or any of the UK teams despite the damage the war in Iraq did.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,282 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    If it was some Gaza/Palestine/Hamas team we’d be cheering to play them, and not a care in world for the many massacred on October 7, 2023. The hypocrisy-insincerity is staggering here.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,043 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    There is zero chance of them not playing. The real question will be around the policing of the event and general public order worries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,611 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I would play the home game in Dublin and hope for a full house. Solitary boycotts by one nation are usually very ineffective. Fans being able to peacefully protest within the stadium (by whatever means) would be a much more effective form of protest.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,146 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    I think they should play but I can see peoples reason for refusing. One point I will make is come March we'll all be cheering on Ireland in the hope of qualifying for the WC which is mostly in the US, a country which is providing a lot of funding and weapons to Israel. Should we boycott the WC if we qualify?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,319 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    A lot of this is true.

    But it's also true that there are different events which resonate differently within a country (including Ireland) for different reasons.

    And the actions of US/UK etc didn't lead them to being banned, or facing any sanction whatsoever from sporting organisations in the same way that Russia and Belarus have done.

    The topic of Palestine resonates within Ireland for particular reasons, that's just a plain fact. If we don't act or allow such sentiment to develop because there other events occurred somewhere else in the world then we'd never have public sentiment about anything again.

    In the same way, as individuals, some stories hit us more than others for some reason. It doesn't mean we are pleased or giving tacit approval for the misdeeds against one person, while supporting another. That's just life. It's similar in this respect I feel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,692 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    Ireland refusing to play will do nothing to change what's going on elsewhere.

    Ireland refusing to play will negatively impact is winning the group.

    It would be ridiculous for us to not play, but nothing would surprise me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,282 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Absolutely nothing but grandstanding attention seeking is all it would be.

    And anyway, there is an ongoing ceasefire in place!!!

    We are the world's most un-neutral neutral country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭Fanny Wank


    "The topic of Palestine resonates within Ireland for particular reasons, that's just a plain fact"

    Polling says otherwise however. It's a very noisy minority but as most of the left wing activists, sorry journalists, in the media are on the same train it's amplified way about its importance to the general population



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,146 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    I agree. Also if we refuse to play UEFA might be thinking these lads are too political do we really want them co hosting Euro 2028 and take it off us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,543 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    And anyway, there is an ongoing ceasefire in place!!!

    There really isn't



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,611 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Well, there actually is talk of an unofficial boycott of the US part of the tournament, but more over Trump's increasing authoritarianism and fears that our fans might be harassed by the US authorities if they show up in America itself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,282 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    There is. Of course, there are tensions and activities on both sides. But it’s much much more “peaceful” now than it was months and months ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,543 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    "Both sides"

    Almost 600 Palestinians killed and thousands injured since this so called ceasefire came into effect



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,209 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Grandstanding eh…

    You should do your research on the ceasefire.

    They aren't letting sufficient aid in and they banned MSF very recently. Thoughts ?

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 56,707 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    I really can't see these games going ahead. Israel should have suffered the same fate as S. Africa and Russia did in sport through their actions. Israel has broken the rules in the same way as Russia. SIPTU has come out and said that the games should not be played now too.

    Genocide should never be normalised and we owe it to the 30,000 little children who were bombed and shot to death. They need our voice now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,836 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    The attempt at equating what happened than with the near genocide since is staggering



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,076 ✭✭✭Simi


    Absolutely should not play them regardless of the consequences. Genocide can never be normalised. Israeli's shouldn't be allowed travel (like Russians) let alone compete in major sporting competitions on the world stage!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,692 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    Is there talk of other countries not playing them or is it just us?

    I hope if we don't play them that we are consistent and criticize the other teams in the group if they play them.

    It's the first time in a long time that we are making progress in football, it would be crazy to to not play the games and ensure we don't top a very winnable group.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,209 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I would play the game. I believe Israel play their home games in Hungary these days.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭Quitelife


    Shame on Hungary facilitating Israel the murder machine , the most Evil nation on the planet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,319 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    I didn't say that it is a matter of priority, but it is absolutely the case that it resonates with a lot of people.

    Particularly in 2024 and 2025 there were frequent very well attended protests in most cities and many towns across the country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭Fanny Wank


    As there were against the government's approach to immigration but let me guess, you're not in favour of stricter controls there?

    I stand by my comment. Palestine isn't as important a topic in the public domain as the media and social media makes you think. Yes if this match goes ahead in Dublin there will be protests before you ask



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭chrisd2019


    Its a scheduled fixture, play the game, but sort out the current Irish team to actually win it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    Play both fixtures, home and away.

    I heard MM speak about this and I agree with all the points he made.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,705 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    I'd hazard a guess that there is a fairly large majority of people who have been disgusted with Israeli actions on the Palestinian people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,319 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    By what evidence do you have to suggest it isn't as popular amongst the public as the media/social media makes you think?

    I'd say if you were to go by unique individuals (People who attended 1 protest) who attended Palestine protests vs immigration protests over the last 2 years or so, the figure for the former would be significantly more than the latter.

    There is a dedicated immigration thread on here, I'm not being dragged in to turning this in to a discussion on the topic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,319 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    I wouldn't be against this approach. Play it, but beat them definitively (like Norway did when there was similar conversation) would be a good outcome..

    In an ideal world, I would favour not playing, but this isn't an ideal world.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,998 ✭✭✭Conall Cernach


    There's probably some sort of guilt going on there seeing as the Hungarian government paid Nazi Germany to take their Jewish population to the death camps during the Holocaust.



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